but hell I've never seen a Intel CPU die
I have. Many, many of them, especially back when I would LN2 overclock.
Pull it and check the wafer. Those CPUs are notorious for bending and causing problems under the pressure of some CPU coolers. The wafers are much thinner than previous gen CPUs. It could still be the mobo, so check the socket and make sure there are no bent pins.
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Boot Linux from an USB stick and see how it behaves? Maybe run a CPU stress test like Prime?
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If I remember right, the penguin is displayed in a console frame buffer. You have problem with and without the MSI GPU installed, right?
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Oh... hammering the sysrq and random CTRL- ALT- and shit gave some text... no idea about it tho...
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Ok, good. It's hard to pinpoint the exact cause for that, but it seems to be often associated with either overheating or clock issues. Can you rule out overheating? If so, I would probably blame the motherboard.
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CPU overheating can be caused by a misplaced heatsink or deteriorated conductive paste, even if the case itself is well ventilated. Of course I can't say that's the case in... your case. :) I'm afraid I can't be of further help, but I would try the CPU in a different computer if I could.
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memtest86 should run at least 2-3 hours, if you want to get a more or less safe conclusion out of it.
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Sure, but considering how the computer behaves with normal operating systems, 5 minutes of memtest would already be meaningful in a way Not conclusive, of course.
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I'd say that's enough to shift the focus of your troubleshooting away from the RAM.
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I too have an Asus Z170-K - I have had several boot issue events with this motherboard since I got it, Have you updated the bios?
There up to Bios 0601 - but Ive been pretty much fine since Bios 0506.
Drove me mad at one point with a very similiar issue is all
http://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/Z170-K/HelpDesk_Download/
Whats the PSU wattage?
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Damn, well worth a try.
Well no beep codes, boots fine into Bios, will boot memtest86, will run long enough to update bios.
Wont boot Prime or a windows start up disk
Yeah, thats a headache alright.
PSU wise - seen a few in recent years cause resets and odd behavioiur when put under load/stress, fundamentally seems like there working cos they are supplying power so you think there okay, is there any way you can get a second PSU just to test the system with (even if its just an old low wattage thing, just to test) just to definetly rule it out.
After that, well, if I was really stuck between mb and cpu as the cause of the fault, Id rma a mb before a cpu.
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when you see the bluescreen, can you see any driver (.sys file)? that might help to find the problem.
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Unfortunately, Windows 10 only display an error occurs (for 1 sec) and reboot directly. Windows 7 does display a blue screen (and stays on it) with a error message... but it changes after each reset. First I had a 0x0000008E then it was 0x0000000C then... Something else... so the error doesn't really help.
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In case you don't know Trinity rescue kit, you may want to have a look to it: http://trinityhome.org/Home/index.php?content=TRINITY_RESCUE_KIT____CPR_FOR_YOUR_COMPUTER&front_id=12&lang=en&locale=en
Basically, it's a light linux that can be used on USB stick. It comes with a lot of tools, you may be able to gather informations by manually checking windows logs.
I also found this tool: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/19792/Intel-Processor-Diagnostic-Tool I never used it, but it may help you diagnose a potential CPU failure. According to the page, there's a linux version.
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Have you tried following the advice for Win7 from this post? The motherboard requires slipstreamed USB3 drivers which Win7 install does not include natively. https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/25476/Windows-7-USB-3-0-Creator-Utility
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/3h8vk0/build_help_installing_windows_7_on_skylake_z170/
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Something bugged me after I read your thread, but now it finally came to me: remove the RAM and use only one stick. Check again with all sticks, single stick only at a time. If it works and boots, then I hope that mobo is still under guarantee because it is an issue that may happen with Z170 ones.
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Was going to recommend checking the RAM too. Sympyoms indicate that's where the problem probably is.
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Try to buy a cheap LGA 1151 cpu to test (celeron) or try find with friends.
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Check your Ram, MemTest86 google it, blue screens , are 90% of the time connected with Ram.
My cousin had brand new pc with broken ram, so it happens.
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+1 RAM - Had this a few times with my last MB - My RAM bank 0 is screwy - When I put my 8's in 0 and 2, it played up - sometimes blue screen sometimes black. using banks 1 and 3 with the same chips had no problems - eventually I had to just put 2 8's in 1 and 3 and a 4 in 2 - 20Gig is kinda weak when going by the numbers but it works without lockups and dead screens.
If you can swap banks it makes it easier to test, and most boards will let you use random numbered RAM as long as you have either singles in 0/2 or 1/3, but you need to have matching sized chips if you use both combos.
If you are using Windows 10 you might also find that if it's the original release to 10 (without patches or updates) there is a large memory hole in the start up sequence. Try Linux (I used a USB install of Ubuntu for my testing) and run some tests with that.
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if ram is ok, maybe next test your gpu(FurMark) , and take a close look at your cpu overall heat.
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The harddrive could'nt be the culprit since it doesn't boot the usb key to install Windows... it blue screen too
have you tried to just simply pull the hard drive temporarily and seeing if the windows (or linux) bootdrives start fully up?? it could be as simple as the hard drives controller board is wonky and going out slowly and causing windows &/or linux to crash even though they are running off the pendrives.. operating systems still check other hardware and initialize them to use.
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Check your BIOS settings and BIOS version, you might need a newer version of your BIOS to use some of your parts. I solved the exact same problem by resetting my BIOS with jumpers.
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Guys... i think I can now safely say it's the processor. With the information gathered from the sysrq key I've looked in the manual and found a way to disable SMP (which is what seems to be the problem in the sysrq). In the bios i've forced only 1 processor and the system now boots. I've installed Intel CPU tester and it fails... Something about the frequency... I then proceeded to raise it to two cpus and it did boot without problem... same error on intel tester. Then tried with 3 and it hangs on boot. Then I returned to two cpu and activated Hyper threading... and it booted. Looks like processor 3 is dead... 4rth might be dead too.
Here's a photo of the intel tester with error :
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Humm try with other ram or 1 module each time, give a clear cmos and just to be sure unplug all but the mb+mem+proc+hd(would be good to try instal on a pendrive too to see is the hd is not the source), also try it outside the case, i have see a lot o weird errors on my life that happened over some strange effect that cases make.
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What other peripherals do you have in there? DVD drive?
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I've put together 30+ computers over the years, and switched roughly the same amount of CPUs, and not once have I seen one go bad. Hard drives (with a clear lead), PSUs, graphics cards, memory, mobos, all fail, but never one single CPU, AMD or Intel. It seems Intel is really lowering the bar with Skylake.
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Exactly.
One of the reasons I prefer buying used server-class processors. Less room to tinker with, but not too many worries. My current setup's CPU is a Xeon E3-1270 v2, which I got for cheap, less than what an i5-2300 goes for, and has given me nothing but joy. You probably bought yours new though...
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I didn't clear the bios... but all test were run with the battery removed from the motherboard. I think it should be about the same thing.
you mean lower the ram frequency? I doubt it would change anything... I've reconstructed the whole pc and it works fine with both stick and original Windows... albeait having half the cores disabled.
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I built a new PC 3 months ago and now it doesn't boot... windows 10 only blue screen and restart without error message. I removed the GC and the problem still occurs. The harddrive could'nt be the culprit since it doesn't boot the usb key to install Windows... it blue screen too. I've tested the ram with memtest86 and it's fine.
Now there's only 3 parts left... MB, PSU and CPU. I've pretty much rolled out the PSU since there no load at boot.
I've made a last test with Windows 7 and got an error 0x0000008E and according to kb2652034 it could be the processor... but hell I've never seen a Intel CPU die...
So MB or CPU... what do u think I should RMA?
Specs :
I7-6700k
Asus Z170-K
PSU Seasonic S12
GPU MSI R9 380
EDIT:
I called asus... got a RMA number... i'll try that in hope that it's the right part.
Linux + Sysrq key gave : https://imgur.com/lbNZm77
New photos : http://postimg.org/gallery/31ifu7xy6/
From what I can understand it seems the CPU is self locked... maybe defective?
http://s12.postimg.org/iijeirm0p/P1040638.jpg
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