Humble "Choice" update: no more tiers, Classic plan discontinued officially.

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the only thing i can say,but this is valid only for me,everyone has different needs&taste,
xbox game pass ultimate for PC (with the cloud gaming free too) especially if when at 1$ with new account discount price,most of time it's a better deal for me than HC and i don't care that XGP it's a "Rent" while instead HC is your own keys... it's ok for me to play only 1 month new games and then say bye to it for most of times especially if these is low quality games as offered in some recents hc,
xgp has hundreds of games to play and new games added most of time is very good,and it make the humble choice be for me nosense especially when they put only crap games on it.
Maybe i just get HC when have bundles with high quality\values games like the spyro\crash\ww2 bundle that is good deal for me to get.
Also sometimes i feel HC can have been the xbox game pass for PC before that xgp was created,but who manage it evidently was not fast enough to take advantage of their opportunity so then microsoft\xbox take that place\slice of market.
if instead of give 1 Good game and 11 crap games,they has given 12 Good games since start (before thatxgp was created) probabily right now they have + subscriptions and maybe xgp don't exist at all too (or can't rival hc) vice versa now we have the opposite situation.
The wrong in my opinion is that they not concentrate in quality so,they try to act like they is super intelligent and other is stupid,try to use 1 good game and give garbage games attached to it,so people understand this and just not buy\not subscribe,this will not go to work in long terms.
Must to give 10 quality games if want people subscribe,and right now XGP offer 100+ games so i'm not sure the 10 will go to work too,also if is OwnLicensevsRent is not worth it.
Who care to buy something when you can play it for 1$
without to talk about 99% games that they give in the HC most of time after 6 months is give free on Epic free games week or after 1-2 week get giant discount 80\90% on steam or go to be in XGP..
So why people must to buy,for play it 1 month before when 1 month or 5 after can play it free...no reason.bah.
This what i feel as a gamer,then i not care about investors\publishers and all these stuffs,up to them...
me as a customer\gamer must to see what is good for me to buy\subscribe,and if is not good i not buy,dot.
Also to me i feel the hc team looks arrogant,because a lot of time people complain in pubblic about their crap games,but then always there is anonymous\new account come say "oooh you it's not the target of their campaign marketing" "oooh no no this very good games" etc.. all fake reply lies...
maybe if they instead of reply like to be in king castle,step down from crown chair and listen people at this moment the service has not become this crap.
if you offer a service but then there is Thousand and thousand of people that write\post\comment\reply "i skip\pause" every time,maybe it's mean something? maybe who write games is not good is true? instead of ignore info use it.
Only in some latest of their choice i has need give away around 20 of their games here at SG,because only to see them in image or trailer i feel Vomit...
Witcher 3 it's a game,God of War it's a game,Halo infinite it's a game,Zelda it's a game... this is games... and i would be happy pay\buy..
But what HC give? what games is that they give?.. bah
i think if trow them at rubbish even the rubbish not want it because is disgusted
ok bye i go play some Real games,waste 5 min of my life in this HC rant for nothing.
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My feeling, for a long time, Humble wants to become a monthly subscription like Game Pass. Just like every other company in the world, why sell games for someone else's platform once when you can collect monthly payments forever. Publishers probably would prefer this instead of dumping thousands of cheap steam keys into the grey market anyway. I imagine if the humble launcher thing sees any significant number of users we'll eventually see the "bundle" part disappear and just have "Access to 100+ games every month in the humble launcher!".

So, am I going to get charged on my local currency instead of USD?

Here's the kicker:

What store discount percent will I receive when these changes take place?

All active members of Humble Choice will receive up to a 20% discount on the Humble Store when the changes go live on February 1st. All new members will receive up to a 10% discount on the Humble Store, with a growing discount rate based on consecutive months unlocked, as seen below:
Consecutive Months  Discount %
1 - 2   10%
3 - 5   15%
6 - 11  17%
12+     20%

The stacking discount will reset back to 10% when skipping a month or canceling your Humble Choice membership.

See also https://support.humblebundle.com/hc/en-us/articles/4413091652763

What can I find in the Humble app?

The Humble Games Collection: A growing number of Humble Games published titles are available with an active Choice membership through the Humble app. 

The Vault: The Vault will include over 50 Humble Original Games. Once downloaded, these games can be kept forever regardless of Choice Membership status.

So Trove gets renamed Vault

Slightly tempted to switch from classic to the new one for the regional pricing. Not a huge difference, but it does add up over time.

20% will be nice, will buy Dying Light 2 and then pause lol.

So, just to be clear. This is positive change? There is no hidden "buts"? I had classic plan, but people who didn't or stopped/not paid for few months could lose it and pay more. So... this is better? And You just get all games now. For the same price. Don't want to be happy, before I confirm everything is great.

Also they should rebrand it again. They did from monthly to Choice. They could or even should change it. I dunno to "Humble Play" or "Humble Hoard" or whatever. Just to adjust. They changed it to Choice, because they changed how it works. So IMO they should change the name again.

What a bunch of jerks. First they promise that Classic plan will be unique and make me pay, and now they literally doing everyone equal to Classic. I consider this a scam. And now they say "hey, we will do what you wanted, you now can have one more launcher for games!". Bullshit.
Honestly, they really should remove "humble" from their name, since they stopped being humble long ago, same as they removed "indie" before.

So I guess I don't get a good discount anymore. That sucks. At least this has some good news for others.

I would like to note that the vote right now is currently tied 50/50, 146 votes each! Thank you to everyone participating on this discussion, I am glad to be a part of the PC gaming community =)

I really like that update, it seems fair to me as it was really disappointing in no equality, when some people can pay 6€ per month while some they bill 18€ and let them pray for coupons. I believe setting same fair price for everyone will help humble get back the quality of games which will stop people nonstop complain about choice price. Discount I used only once to buy Control on release day, so considering how rare I shop in humble I won't even notice if I have 0, 10 or 20%.
Nvm, I know some of losers around us would still cry even if they bundle top upcoming AAAs for next year for 1€.

Only thing that I am worried about is new launcher. Completely not interested in that and will me make buy game elsewhere to have them on steam, no matter price.

I only started to get into humblebundle thanks to their $6 for 6 months promotion. This might make me continue on being subscribed because this seems more reasonable than their $20 per month premium choice. Well, it still depends on the games. Let's just wait and see. :)

Quality of the games remains to be seen.

I honestly feel like I have been lied to. I bought the annual premium subscription for the 1st time in December (while they had the $99 promo price, which worked out to be $138.99 CAD for me). When I bought that subscription it advertised 12 games a month, and I was under the impression those would all be Steam keys (idk if they have given other platform keys in the past, or I just misunderstood at the time).

I paused for January for a few reasons:

1. I can't run Mafia on my setup
2. There are only 10 games instead of 12
3. I'm not interested in any of the games offered (including Mafia if I could run it)

Now with these new changes I am getting an unknown number of games each month, of unknown quality, on unknown platforms.

I really hope that there will be some months in the future worth claiming, and I realize everyone has different tastes in games and platforms, but I am deeply concerned that I wasted money and will be presented with less games each month for varying platforms.

My guess:
Humble wanted to people stop buying only specific months (so they could show better subscription numbers to their shareholders).
So they changed Humble Monthly to Choice thinking:

• Everyone will stay on classic not to lose subscription, they may pause - but subscription numbers will still look good to shareholders
• People buying bundles occasionally - will now have to pay $20 to get the full bundle = more profit from them
• Because people will be afraid to lose subscription - cheaper games can be given away = reducing cost for Humble = even more profit
• In conclusion: both more recurring subscribers and more profit

what happened instead was:

1. The bundles became shitty
2. People realized there's no point on staying subscribed as "classic" subscribers, as we don't get any good bundles anyway - so started canceling instead of pausing
3. No one was buying the $20 bundles, as it's not worth the price. You can get the only "good" games in the bundle for $12 (if you want to).
4. Sure as hell no one was buying the "Lite" tier
5. Not only profits went down - but the subscription numbers went down as well.
6. As a desparate attempt to increase subscription numbers, Humble started offering all games first for $12 (same as classic), and next for $6, just so people get back to "subscribers" status.
7. Which only cause more people to cancel, as they saw they will later get an even better deal they're already paying. So Humble got a bunch of new $6 subscribers, but lost a bunch of $12 subscribers.

So here's where we are now.
So they're rewinding again to cancel all tiers. Cancel the useless Lite/Premium subscriptions. Cancel the $6 per month desperation subscriptions.
And go back to having $12 per month bundles (probably with better quality games, at least at first), with other method attempts to make people stay subscribed:

1. Store discount
2. Trove access
3. Humble Original (Trove 2.0) access

Let's see how it goes...

I have classic plan, it's been on perma pause for the last 6 months or so. Glad that they realized that tiers are total load of crap and are removing them. Kinda sad about remove of pause discount, but then again, used it only once for games I was undecided and wanted to wait for a bit. Offer won me over in the end. Still they better up quality of games in bundles if they want people to buy them.

I understand that by canceling my Humble Classic plan, I will forever lose exclusive account status and pricing.

--> I'm now done with HB. :)

I'm just glad that I can cancel my classic plan. I have absolutely no hope for a better bundle.

I have always been wondering if some people were actually paying 20$ for a bundle. I've never seen anyone paying that price.

My only problem with Humble Choice is that 10 games every month is just too many as I don't have time to play them all.
I'd rather they did something like "you can choose 3 games out of 10 for 6 euros or get all 10 for 10 euros."
That being said, the quality of the featured games has declined over the years and I feel I should just let my subscription end and just buy the games I want to play somewhere else.

sa basically it returned to its roots. Took them long enough to think about that.

They said they'll have an app for windows PC. I wonder what happens to Mac and Linux users then. Do we lose access to the vault?

Didn't go through all the replies here, but the "Choice" became a different kind of Choice, from user's to Humble's side. Humble chooses, a man obeys takes.
As I subscribed only about 2 times, which offered like 90% discount of the games I was willing to pay for, I'll keep my arms crossed and see.