I've been meaning to make such a thread for a long time now, so if I forgot some detail, I'll add them later...

Some of you may know me, but most of you probably don't. Within the last year, I've started going through a very busy period of my life, which intensified in the last six months, to the point that I even don't have a steady time to play the games I have. I don't even remember the last time I sat to play a single player game from my backlog. Also, because of that, lately, I haven't even been as active on SG as I used to be (and as I liked to be).

When I started coming to SG, and won my first game, I played it right away. I usually focus in one game at a time, and when I started winning more games, I always prioritized them over the others I have. However, I got to the point where I started winning more, and given the situation described above, I couldn't keep up with it.

It's important to note that I only enter GAs for games that I want, and intend to play, even if I can't play them right away.

I started feeling bad about it, as, somehow, I know that a game not played is a game that loses its value, and decided to enter less GAs. After thinking about that for a little while, and realizing not only the backlog of my wins here, but also my general backlog, I decided to stop entering GAs completely, until I could resume playing games in a more steady schedule.

In the meanwhile, I was also talking to some of my friends from SG about it, and some of them agreed that I had a point, others felt similarly bad about themselves being in the same situation, and others encouraged me to keep entering GAs regardless. I ended up resuming entering GAs, but only for some things, and from some people.

In the same period, I've noticed that many people here are in the same situation of having a huge backlog, and still entering GAs. Maybe it's even the norm. Then I realized that SG is a complete game on itself. It feels good to enter and win GAs. And it feels good to make GAs as well. When I first came here, I was attracted by the possibility of winning games I wanted, while still giving games I had and didn't want (bundles?), but as time went by, I really liked this community, and I started giving "better" games, even games I had on my wishlist. How crazy can this be? I want to make GAs and I want to win them as well.

Finally, in the past month, or past couple of weeks (not sure exactly), I have noticed lots of people from the groups I'm part of (and some outside as well) feeling bad and apologizing for not making many GAs lately, and I feel those people have a similar feeling like mine. Others have been announcing that they will take some time off of SG, and that they won't be able to be as active as before... So maybe there's something to it...

So... I posted this mostly to give vent to this feeling I have, but hearing about how you people feel about this subject or feedback about what I said are welcome as well. Don't hold back, but stay civil, please! :) And, thank you for reading. As tradition demands, here's a little GA for your time. :P

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You took the words right out of my mouth. Although I'm still entering games I am trying to enter only for ones that I REALLY want now.

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Mhmm... Thank you for your reply.

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I don't feel bad for entering for games I might not be able to play right away. I play games in bursts, during university breaks and such, and I'd rather take a chance to win a game and not have to pay for it later. At the end of the day it's good to have some perspective: these are games, and not resources like food and medicine being kept out of the hands of the poor by the rich.

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Yeah... I have expectations that this extremely busy period will pass, and I'll be able to resume my gaming. It HAS to pass. :P

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I have a backlog of 85-90 steam games ... I have maybe 4 that are from SG the rest i bought the thing is volvo have them sales and the GabeNator always seems to make my wallet twitch.

I only enter GA's for games on my wish list and the past month i've won a few game and need to to a gift back or i'll slide down further from what was a 1:1 ratio.

Now I don't see it as a wasted game I mean i'll get around to playing it. What i've done over the past 2 years is i've only bought one AAA game the witcher 3 at a discount for owning the other 2, and I will only buy a game on my wishlist if it's either one I really want and will play right then or it has at least 50% off.

I never did finish the witcher 3 as a bug broke it so i sit it aside for a whole and now it's my backlog lol

I'm also addicted to anime which means I game far less.

9 years ago
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You might be looking for this :P

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yeah that may come in handy ^_^

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I feel the exact same, to be honest. I barely enter any games that aren't on my Steam wishlist that seem interesting anymore - and lately I even stopped entering for some games that are on my wishlist. Like you said, I just feel bad for entering when I've still got so many games, so many wins to play. Same goes for the part about group giveaways. I also tend to feel bad for entering giveaways for AAA titles when I can only give away bundled or cheap games.
I won't leave or "take a break" though. I love being here nonetheless and I just love the people on the forum.

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Don't leave us. :)

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I'm not going to! :D

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:D

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I see. Thank you for your input. :)

Elune light your path. :P

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You cleared your backlog? That's amazing! But why don't you enter for more? Isn't there stuff you want anymore?

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Thanks. I guess it's important that you don't feel obligated. I don't feel obligated, although I actually want to play all of the games I won. I only feel I should prioritize them, but that's fine since I want to play them.

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Have a read through this thread describing a situation much like your own. http://www.gog.com/forum/general/my_own_personal_journey_toward_more_playing_and_less_spending/page1

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Thanks for the read! :)

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Lol, you level up and everything! :P

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That's one of the things that makes SG extra fun, I love to level up in all kinds of games :D A very nice bonus feature.

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Steam Gifts the RPG maker game ...I can see it you know I mean there has been GabeN games lol

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Well there is the thrill of the hunt (in fact I do refrain from getting some cheap games just to hunt them), though I've been sort of slowing down on the bundle buying due to the backlog I've built up.

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I see. Thank you for replying. :)

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I must admit I the last two months have been winning games at a somewhat higher rate than I play them, but I'm most definitely finishing my "SG backlog", just this week I have completed two of the games I won here. I have only entered for games I want to play, and I don't think I would get to the point where I have a collection of games I can't see myself playing.

If I feel I would start winning too much, I would also take a break in entering giveaways. I think that was a nice thing to do, giving others who haven't had the same luck better chances of winning the games they really want to play.

As for my own giveaways (or at least most of them), I don't mind too much if the one who wins won't play it for a year or so. Almost all of us have backlogs, and sometimes it takes time to get to the next game. What doesn't make me happy is high quality games being won by people who won't play them: if they will just be library +1's or used for farming cards and nothing more.

...for wins that won't be played for over 3 years, maybe it would have been better not to enter at all? Especially if it was a new AAA title at the time of the giveaway, but a 3-time bundled game the day it actually gets played ;)

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Yeah, I didn't get to this point yet (3 years). Thank you for your reply. :)

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I play a ton of games, but I also have two sons who will likely be into video games in a couple years. There's no telling what they'll like, so my backlog may be their...frontlog?

Having said that, I only enter for games I think I would like. Just in case.

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In a couple of years we'll probably see recent AAA games in $1 tier bundles, so that's also a way to do it if you're planning for the slightly more distant future ;)

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You know, that's an excellent point and for some reason, it's something I've never thought about.

I have been able to get a few hours a day in, despite having kids, a wife, and a full time job.

The backlog will clear before I know it! <-Doubtful.

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For me, it's not only about the money though. I'm ok with paying more for a game that's good and well made and good, and that way, support the developer. I know I can't do that all the time, but I've done my couple of preorders and crowdfunding backings. :P

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This is exactly what I keep saying too -- my backlog will be there for my kid when she's a little older.

I do only enter games I intend to play, but I'm way behind on my backlog too .... I have New Years Resolutions though. Let's see how that works out.

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tso's reply make sense. That's why I stopped buying games, generally speaking. I still get some bundles, or buy games I want to play right away (last time it happened was with The Walkind Dead Season 2), or preorder/crowdfunding games I want to support.

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Most people here seem to be game collectors. The degree of actual game playing varies, but I think the reality of digital gaming in our present time is that the bundles and steep discounts for games prey upon our cognitive biases and game collecting is the result. We intend to play a game we buy, or enter a giveaway for, but we likely won't, because we just have too many games already. I think I bought Mafia (having played it a little bit previously) during my very first Steam sale years ago and I still haven't played it.

I understand the feeling you've felt and have felt it before, but the guilt of game acquisition without game playing is a problem of the excess of the digital game library, and the financial ease of creating such an excess, even for someone with limited funds for discretionary spending, and SG is just a small part of that.

I might be inclined to feel bad if I thought my win likely deprived someone from playing a game they really wanted but can't afford but I'm pretty confident in feeling like that is rarely the case.

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Thanks for this analysis. :)

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You are right, I tend to create public giveaways and almost all my winners have at least 300 games on their accounts, and lots of them have 1000+. And, of course, they only play CS:GO xD The rest of the titles are only numbers.

Lots of members use scripts to enter all public giveaways they can on every visit until their 300P go to zero. The vast majority of members are collectors.

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One can never have enough entertainment
Plus you give so much away yourself, why feel bad?
It's not because life gets in the way you should forbid yourself having joy in getting something you want.
Despite not having time

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Thanks for the nice words. :)

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Thanks for the replies. I also talked to you a bit on Steam... :) And don't apologize. You know I tell you when I can't help. :P You can ask me as much as I want, even though I don't think I've been of that much help. :P

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Hah! I've actually thought about that too, since many of us are in the same situation.

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  1. I enter giveaways and feel bad about it
  2. I don't create good giveaways (usually) and I feel bad about it
  3. I enter giveaways which I know my potato PC can't run (and I just keep wishing for a better time when I'll be able to afford a GPU upgrade instead of working my ass off without any positive results) and I feel bad about it
  4. I enter giveaways for multiplayer-based games even though I know that my internet is from the 80s and I feel bad about it

TL;DR: I can't stand the feeling of guilt and my own greed. I hate myself but I love video games, so I keep on entering giveaways. cg save me. Amen.

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lol. :P cg save us all!

9 years ago
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Well i try to prioritize won games, but still have a couple in backlog...

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I have much more than a couple... :s

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i suppose if people want a game, and if they can't play it right away (because they don't have time at the moment, not because they need $1000 to upgrade their pc...), it's fine to enter just to have a shot at winning it.

we could discuss that they are stealing chances from people that would play it instantly, but there's no way to make everyone comply with that idea. :|

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Yeah, muiiins, but I think most people won't really play it instantly, judging by what I've been gathering. Many people have big backlogs.

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i know, so you have 2 options:
- enter GAs you want and add those games to your backlog like most people
- don't enter more GAs, but everyone else will keep entering despite your choice

so in the end, it's better if you enter. even if you won't play your win in 3-5 months. :3

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Honestly speaking, have the same problem.

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Thanks for your reply. Many people can relate to this.

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You know more or less how I look at this ;)
Recently I decided to play games I win shortly after I win them. And of course I started winning a lot. Few days ago my steam crashed so badly I had to reinstall it (actually the problem was more complicated) and I've lost all the currently won games I downloaded. Now when I'm in my hometown for Christmas with reallly shitty internet connection, it will probably take me weeks to redownload them D: It's like the backlog just refuses to shrink D:

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Mmhmmm... You've had some bad luck there. ;s

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I went through the same thing circa 2013 and sans the thread. My entries have always been super selective to things I want to play, and my entries per month dwindled down slowly until my final entry 2 years ago (30th Oct '13) TWO YEARS STRONG, OH YEAH. I still give games away occasionally, and like to check the forums in the off chance there is an actual discussion thread (like this one!) I have received lots of gifts outside of SteamGifts (birthdays, christmas, etc.) so that's been holding me back from finishing the few won games here on SG I haven't gotten too (a few games I tried and tried and tried to like but just weren't enjoyable, I'll finish them...after everything else, curse you Cortex Command and Commandos!).

I don't know if I'll ever enter a giveaway again, at this point in my Steam life I feel like I have too many games, I spend like $5-10 dollars on myself during Steam sales now and it's usually just picking up a few small indie titles I really want or some much needed DLC for some game or another.

Everything said, I just hold myself to those conditions, the only reason I would want people to be selective about entering my giveaways is to be considerate to the other entrants, not because I find it offensive they are entering something they may not play (although I usually limit my giveaways to people I know and trust to be considerate anyways, which sort of makes this a moot point)

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Thanks for your words. I'm still struggling with my situation, hehe.

But I believe most of those people that are usually selected to some groups and restricted GAs are kind of in the same situation... :)

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Nice post. I stopped entering giveaways in March 2013, and I also largely stopped giving, mainly because I don't feel the charity. SG is a game, where people who have too many games give games to other people who have too many games. The only criterion I feel could let me create charitable giveaways, a "maximum number of wins" criterion, will likely never be offered.

I don't think it's wrong to participate in the game, I just don't feel like doing so.

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I see... And you've only won 3 games! :) SGTools have some additional criteria that you can select to distribute invite only GA links, but I don't think they have that one. They have maximum CV won, though.

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For me its like playing the lottery and kinda fun despite having an enourmous backlog myself

Anyway I give way more back so I don't feel guilty about entering

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Exactly... Many people feel that way too. Giving back is one way to lower the guilt, that's for sure.

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Sometimes I think that, too...
Time is too short... :(

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Hopefully (for me, at least), I'll be able to resume gaming soon. :)

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Thank Yu! :* <3

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Yeah you're not alone, I had a similar realization 1 year ago. Right now I have played to completion (or near completion) 48 of my 77 wins. Because I have waited too long, some multiplayer games are now dead and I feel pretty bad about that...
I also checked my winners and only 1 of the 22 games I gave away has been played. I try not to think too much about it, after all maybe they are all going to start playing their wins tomorrow but it doesn't motivates me to make more giveaway...
I always wanted to include everyone, and make AAA giveaways when I could to make people really happy, I thought it promoted a better atmosphere and avoided frustation for those who couldn't afford to make giveaways.
But if it continues like this I may start to make whitelist giveaways for people who play the games they win. I don't like it but I kinda feel forced.

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I feel you. :s Thanks for your point of view. :)

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