8GB should be enough, but 16GB isn't wrong either.
I guess the VRAM of graphics cards will become more important, so 2GB of VRAM should be the minimum, depending on which games you play.
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Good to know, thank you. :D
To stay realistic: I have 16GB RAM (+4GB dedicated VRAM @graphics card) in my laptop, but the only things that will max it out are virtual machines, photo-/videoediting and 3D rendering programs.
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True, but that money is going to go to waste if he dosen't use it. It seems like a good deal, but if you don't need it, don't get it. Plus that 2 TB one might have a slower RPM than the 1 TB one.
Edit: Those 115 games would take up around 300-400 GB, so it seems like the 2 TB wouldn't be necessary.............unless he has a terabyte of porn......
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If the drive is used mainly for storage, 5200rpm vs 7200rpm wont be noticeable. He has an SSD in place for games I assume. Though if he definitely doesnt need a 2TB drive, I would invest in a larger SSD. This assumes that he is looking to BUY a ssd+1tb hdd and isnt just using them from his old rig.
Drop to an i5-k, 8GB ram, and buy a larger SSD for games.
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I would recommend a decent size SSD for games and then a different HDD for normal stuff like videos, musics, pictures, and documents etc. I do believe that these days 2 TB is a good one to get. I have a 2 TB HDD in my desktop and I have just about 400 GB(+100 GB in C Drive for windows) free space. granted I do not have a SSD yet for game and my HDD has about 500 GB of games only. Here is a general breakdown of what my HDD has:
Games = 500 GB (Origin, Steam, Desura, DRM Free, a couple of pirated ones that are not available on any DRM!!)350 GB (Mostly all are Blue Rays so they take up a lot of space)
Movies =
Music = 75 GB (that includes the music videos also)400 GB (I am a photographer by hobby so take high resolution pictures anywhere I go. my last trip to Vegas & grand Canyon alone was about 25 GB)
Pictures =
Software = 100 GB (I do my schoolwork and Office work both on my computer, so have a lot of software installed)100 GB (Again last 7 years of schoolwork and all my office work in on there. so lot of documents
Documents/Projects =
If anyone is anything like me, they probably do need a 2 TB hard drive and they are actually not very expensive for being $70-$100 during these Thanksgiving, Black Friday, and Cyber Monday sales.
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its a very capable board and most gaming mechanical keyboards are over $70 anyways... its a third of the price of a Corsair Vengeance K70 for example
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Intel Core i7-4790k allways that the cpus with K wiki can explain the reason very well. and i would push it to the top and take 32 GB DDR3 but 16 are fine. rest is perfect for the card >> Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 best cooling and highst gpu clock
mainboard Asus Z97m Plus or better or an gigabyte
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Why would you suggest 32GB of ram when 8GB works perfectly fine for gaming? Unless the op has need of the extra ram for something like editing large RAW photos, or 3d modeling and such, 16GB would be more than enough with 8GB being the best choice.
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It drives me nuts every time I read shit like this:
"Memory
16 GB DDR3 (anything will do)"
and
"PSU
Any 80+ Gold PSU"
I keep expecting that some day people will get the superficial notions about PCs out of the way as they learn more, and then it never happens. So, pardon my sarcasm for a moment...
"Hey, I want a fireplace. I don't give a shit about the safety ratings, anything will do. What's the worst that can happen? So it burns down the house, destroys all my property, and kills everyone? Big whoop." That's about the same general idea as not caring about your PC PSU. It is literally tied to EVERYTHING in your system, and if one goes bad it can and will fry freaking everything.
Every time I see sentiments like that, the first thought that pops into my head is "Well, there's another idiot who will get his teachable moment when his $60 shit tier PSU ends up going bad and completely destroying a $500 GPU and $300 CPU." Don't skimp on parts for a PC. Ever. Don't write shit off like that. All the parts matter, and if you write one off, it will be your own stupidity to blame when you have issues you can't figure out later, and the PC doesn't live up to expectations, or worse - Utter, catastrophic failure.
Buy good RAM, learn about timings and pick the right speed & timing combo to meet your needs. But most of all, do not forget that PSUs are immensely important. Not only can it fail and destroy your system, but this whole "any 80+" idea is asinine, since you need to make sure that the one you buy is able to provide enough total wattage to power your system, with overhead, and ideally room to expand later. The general rule of thumb is to shoot for the parts you're using to use 50-75% of the total max output of the PSU you buy for the system.
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True, plus I think 16 GB is overkill, unless your going to keep it for 10 years, if not I would sugest bumping it down to 8 GB.
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I dont know of any shit PSUs that are gold certified. I think the part you are really jumping on is that he didnt specify his wattage, which tbh, doesnt call for your reaction about it.
Shit ram wont fry your rig. Most ram is made by the same 2-3 fabricators. Timing on ram is hardly noticeable at its current place in the market. Most people get 1600 or 1866 and wont notice the extra 2ns cycles. Unless he his a hardcore overclocker aiming for a record, you are putting WAY to much emphasis on timings and ram.
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They exist. Take a look on Newegg for Coolmax, Thermaltake, Raidmax, etc.
80+ honestly doesn't mean jack. It's only an efficiency rating which maybe in general calls for higher quality components but still doesn't guarantee anything. Some companies are known for sending different platforms to be rated and then selling a worse performing product.
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Motherboard: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-608-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2811
gpu: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-352-AS&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1010
apart from that looks decent.
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I recommend EVGA for your Graphics Card. As for the keyboard, I'm using a Razer Blackwidow, and it's pretty nice.
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Blackwidow is nice but it's not as high quality as the Corsair Gaming K series RGB keyboards. Blackwidow does have easier software to use though.
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Only go for 16GB RAM if you're looking to run VMs, game servers, or Video Editing on your PC otherwise 8GB is fine. Also you may as well go for a water cooling kit? And make sure you use Windows 8 from the start :)
Edit:
Cheap non-mechanical keyboard and mouse - cooler master devastator combo is really good value.
Mechanical keyboard - ducky all the way
Monitor - don't use an 'old' LCD monitor if you're bothering to buying all these other goodies. You'll want a 2ms IPS monitor :)
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For the GPU, definitely look into getting a Gigabyte G1 Gaming. Just make sure it'll fit your case since it's a long card 312mm (~12.2"). This thing is an OC monster and you'll be hitting 1500+ mhz and 7800 mem easily.
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Make sure the graphics card you get has a good amount of VRAM, I'd probably get 3 GB but it's your decision :)
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That build is illogical.
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Thanks for the input guys, edited to save a bit of money. My stupid speaker broke and I want a better keyboard that isn't exactly cheap. Plus I figured I wouldn't be editing videos and pictures too much, although this build will also be used for stuff other than gaming. :)
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Are you going to overclock? Some people are telling you to get an unlocked CPU (the models with K in the end), but there's no point in getting one, if you're not going to overclock. If you're going to overclock, you need a CPU cooler. If you're not going to overclock, I'd recommend getting a Xeon E3-1230v3, which is basically i7-4770 without an integrated GPU and costs about as much as the i5 you currently have. With the Xeon you could also get a cheaper motherboard (Z87 and H87 chipsets).
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I have the Fractal Design R4 case. It has really nice quality and it is quite silent. I removed one of the HDD cases for better airflow since I have 2x R9 270x crossfire setup, but the temps are really ok and you can adjust the case fan speeds by a voltage switch if you fear that you need more cooling during gaming.
I would recommend investing in a silent cpu cooler though, the stock intel cpu cooler makes some nasty high frequency noises at higher fan speeds. this should do fine
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My current Core 2 Quad is getting kind of slow lately and the DDR2 ram isn't helping at all. So after using this PC for 5 years, it's time for an epic upgrade! I'm thinking of the following specs for my new PC, so feel free to post your opinions.
Processor
Intel Core i5-4690
Motherboard
Still searching, thanks for the input!
Graphics Card
GTX 970 (haven't decided on the manufacturer) though Gigabyte seems to be recommended by you guys
Memory
8 GB DDR3 (anything will do)
Display
that old 24 inch Dell monitor / my other Samsung 24 inch TV monitor
Storage
Samsung 840 EVO 250GB + Western Digital Blue 1TB
Optical Storage
Meh
Casing
Fractal Design R4 / Corsair Carbide 300R
PSU
Still searching for a good one... 550W should be enough right?
Audio
Meh
Keyboard
Probably Corsair K70 (normal) or Coolermaster Quickfire Ultimate
Mouse
Logitech G402
Edited to save some money.
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