Mayanaise Flipping Death 2025-02-25 3:59 EST
Ellendyl Dreamscaper 2025-02-28 7:30 EST
Done these extras!
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i just realized i haven't finished week 12 puzzle... solved week 12 and 13!
thanks for the nonogram as always :)
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Bonus Puzzle
15 x 15 puzzle for Queen's Quest 4: Sacred Truce. Level 3+. Ends Friday (3/7) @ 07:00 EST.
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As a fellow enjoyer of Nonograms and especially as someone who coded some, what's your opinion on this nonogram? Valid or invalid?
X | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
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1,1 | ? | ? | ? | ? |
2 | ? | ? | ? | ? |
It has an obvious unique solution, but a lot of sites say it hasn't as it can essentially only be found by the "guess a spot and prove it impossible" method, which feels wrong as soon as it's not this obvious
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I see nothing wrong with this one, only one solution, no need to guess.
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Well, this is the trivial obvious case, but If something like this happened in a big one, none of the default methods of solving/verifying work.
There is no row or column where you can generate a black or white without the context of the other rows/columns and from what I've seen on multiple sites is that that is not allowed. That's what I meant with guessing: a naive implementation of a solution would checking something like "What would happen if the bottom left was black... oh, I would have to color both boxes in the second column", and in theory this look ahead could get big.
Not saying that it is invalid, just that a lot of sites think it is. I'm fairly certain quite a few of the magazines I bought with nonograms for penciling in use stuff like this.
Another version of this "Do you allow what I call guessing" would be a nonogram starting like this:
X | 3,... | 2,... | 3,... | 2,... | 3,... | 2,... | 3,... |
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2 | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? |
3 | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? |
2 | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? |
... | ... | ... | ... | ... | ... | ... | ... |
You know that the corners can't be colored in because that would mean that row 3 contains a conflict. But do you implement something like that or can this only happen in non-unique solutions or maybe they can only be unique if there are other ways to reason these blocks
with the numbers I left out, ...
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Interesting thought experiment :) I personally am in the camp of do-not-ask-me-to-guess-a-spot-even-if-the-solution-ends-up-unique.
Sure, small puzzles like your example are not an issue, but the complexity can scale fast. It's also why I grudgingly do not like puzzles such as Lexica because for bigger puzzles, you either need a huge capacity for thinking ahead (not me), or you'd have to do an educated guess on a spot and work from there (defeats the purpose of a logic puzzle for me). I like the concept though, hence "grudgingly".
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RosimInc's 2025 Nonogram Café
Announcements
2025-01-07 - New code update!
I have updated the game with many improvements! See this post for details!
2025-01-02 - 2025 Edition Begins!
Hello everyone!
First of all Happy New Year to everyone, I wish you all a lovely 2025 <3
Back in 2020, I made the first version of the Nonogram Café, it was a lot of fun but it was quite tedious to create and play the puzzles.
A week ago I started looking at different alternatives online, and finally gave up, and made my own creator and player instead.
So I officially present to you my fully online, fully interactive nonogram player! ^^
Which comes with a nonogram creator, naturally. Look below for the link to it!
I will post a new nonogram weekly, leading to a giveaway each. Giveaways will end one week after the next for fun all year round!
Now you get to play; let's get cracking!™ ;)
Weekly Puzzles
The links below contain everything you need to access the giveaways I made.
Bonus Puzzles
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Infos on the puzzles and creator here.
Past puzzles here
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