Just adding here, that's the norm in middle east. The workers go there, they have to surrender their passport in order to get wages and once they do, they become slaves. And this happens not just to the labour class.

Same happened to my brother who works in the oil industry and had more than 20 years of experience. He had to switch jobs due to recession and found one in Dubai. For the initial few months it was all okay but then they asked for his passport which he refused to surrender. Then they stopped paying him. Went on like that for 3 months after which he simply went back to his country. He even sued the company but to no avail.

Most people dont. This was expected to happen back in 2010 and Fifa went foward regardless.
i certainly wouldn't in any circumstances pay to watch anything hosted by them, and this one so far proved to be a farce where qatar shows how it wants to be perceived, rather than what it actually is.
they paid fake fans to attend the event, that's how supportive people have been thus far

Qatar World Cup was covered today on Last Week Tonight with John Oliver

Have you tried turning your TV off and on again?

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Well, yes, I made a mistake. I meant, it's a rare thing for South American teams to win in Europe. Qatar is not in Europe, so chances are some South American team will win :)
p.s. And after today's performance I am not sure about Argentina :D

They got cold feet, look at their first touch. Yes they are currently Asian Cup Champion, but they got no big player like South Korea or Japan to calm and lead on such a big event. But I still think people shouldn't bash them too hard, football are not video game, it is what it is, a weak country will give weak performance given any circumstances.

But people from strong country didn't understand how happy is it when your weak country able to participate in WC, when the flag is showing on this event, let alone scoring goals/ win against them.

Brazil is starting until it meets a nation with red, yellow and black in their flag and then it is game over.
:D

At some point you have to say "Enough". At the end of the day it's their right to do whatever, but honestly if you don't have the backbone to even decline slavers, then what's the point.

I'm not saying it's easy either, but what is, y'know.

Just like many people don't buy products made by slave labor or don't visit locations known for violence against minorities; many would also never earn money and support financially (which is what these footballers are doing) a regime that is known for its inhumane environment and so many other issues like violence and intimidation against foreign and domestic journalists.

I get wanting to be a footballer and earn money from your passion, but if I suddenly had a choice to earn money for shilling the CCP with my freelancing for a good amount of money, I'd still end up turning it down, even if it was a very hard decision. England never even needed that money to begin with, for example.

I was gonna write a rebuttal, but I just can't be bothered to go for dishonest arguments.

As a German, you're saying you live in Nazi Germany. You claim atrocities from half a millennia ago are the equivalent of your ball game having people actively die to build arenas for. It's just honestly so ridiculous that I can't help but think that you're either trying to be argumentative for the sake of it or you just legit can't comprehend basic concepts of time or concepts of direct actions having direct consequences vs. indirect actions and indirect consequences.

I'm sorry, I tried, I really did, but like when goalposts just keep getting moved and standards get fitted just to argue, then why even talk about it.

The no beer thing is actually fine for me.
Having a cup without drunk people doing their drunk things will be good.
The only problem as Borsdy said as well is that first you came to an arrangement and then at the last minute you go and say "nah". Same goes with the approved Belgian away shirt and then now suddenly its not.
Shows little respect to made deals, which also normally have rules to follow. And smells more of abuse of power.

And the real Ronaldo, aged 21 back then. Roberto Carlos, too. France's Henry and Trezeguet had chemistry going on. Didier Deschamps, current manager of national team, was the captain back then. Argentina's Gabriel Batistuta was a great player too. Scored 3 goals in 10 minutes against Jamaica.

In a sane world.. people like this should be suspended and fined heavily.

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Agreed. Everything is filmed in 10 HD angles so.... They could even take 2 min to view the footage when it actually happens, and dish out cards right away. Quite sure these sissies would grow spines over night 🙂👍

I understand getting away with this during the Radio era, but now.. nope.

Those in corporate hospitality at stadiums will still be allowed to drink alcohol.

My favorite Qatar rule is getting trapped there and having a heart attack from being overworked under extreme heat when I'm a migrant worker.

Yeah, right. I should respect slavery and severe homophobia because they are a norm for Qatar. I should probably also respect Iran discriminating its women and murdering protesters. And my own country with its repressions against our people - and, of course, traditions of some of our southern regions where teenage girls are forced into marriage, their genitals get mutilated in early childhood, and gay people are downright murdered. Hell, maybe I should go even further and respect them attacking a certain neighboring state since that's perfectly fine according to their rules.

I apologize in advance if you perceive this as a personal attack, it's not. It's just that I don't believe that a country's rules, traditions or even laws justify such ugliness.

I was talking about human rights and slavery, not about about rich hysterical fans crying for their boose...

I don't want to bring politics to this thread but, let's just say that if Argentina wins, it won't be good for us.
Everyone here has goldfish memory and next year are the elections. Most people is obssesed with soccer (that's fine) but they will correlate the happiness of winning the cup to their vote, they will just forget all the bullshit that we had to endure these past years.

Guess you got your wish.

Not really xD

Vos también lo estás viendo por la tele, a tu ídolo Frionel Fressi jajajaja. Con la economía argentina no les alcanza ni para llegar al aeropuerto jajaja