Rename blacklist

Thankyou, beliefs in Bangledesh must somewhat differ then. Thanks for the extra edumacation.

Well, Britain was engaged in enslaving Africans from the 1550s until 1833. That certainly involved a huge number of black people.

I think it's telling that Ignatius Sancho, a British African born on a slave ship who became a composer, actor, writer, and grocery store owner in Britain in the mid 1700s, was known as "The Extraordinary Negro."

Black people were also referred to as black prior to that, but it was a derogatory term.

It wasn't until the 1950s and 1960s in the US that black people reclaimed black as a positive term in preference over Negro and colored and their associations with slavery, segregation, discrimination, etc.

But given that negro literally means black in Spanish and Portuguese, you can't really say that black people weren't described based on the color of their skin for hundreds of years.

Edit: Also, at least in the US, labels based on skin color were in everyday speech as of around the middle of the 18th century.

Thank you for educating me Jinx, I truly appreciate.
I was joking though, Inigo Montoya is a character from Princess Bride whose only objective is to find the man who has 6 fingers on the right hand as he killed his father. This character is famous because of his lines "Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I73sP93-0xA

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com is the capitalist tld. can't be supported! Also in general tlds indicate hierarchy, which is form of slavery!

This is another one of those times when I wish I could jump in and participate in the joke. Unfortunately for me, I am a Support member and will therefore have to settle for something boring and innocuous like passing your suggestion along to CG.

We should just ban the words white and black completely. I mean, they're not even real colors. ;)

but I had no idea that there were so many superheroes with White in their name

Not many did is my intuitive response. Despite reading a lot of Marvel comics in my youth I can only remember one character with White in the name and that was a villain iirc.

Only because of Red. Without him the annoying Liz, the dear god what a beautiful (NOT) Samar that destroys everything and the how the hell does a guy with such a Black and white code of ethics became Director for a black site Cooper, would not stand a chance as a series.
James Spader has the biggest back pain for carrying this whole series for 7+1 seasons.

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Will changing words really change racism? is the question. Spreading awareness from it helps but I think education is key.
I can count on one hand the number of times someone actually said something racial but the number of times I've seen race impact decisions? Lots. In all races.
It's easy to smash things but what can you build is the hard part.

This! Racism cannot be solved by means of slogan. Systemic racism is real and it affects all race.

Education is key but it won't change over night. It will take generations.

What I fear is, ppl are just jumping on the bandwagon now and they will forget whatever movements they are supporting in a few months.

We say "European/British/French etc", "American", "Canadian", "Asian/Chinese/Japanese", so why are some people clinging to that they're "black" and not of a nationality?

That's a good question. When you think European, British, French, German, American, Canadian, what do you picture? Do you picture a white person?

In the US, everyone except Native Americans has ancestors that came to the US from somewhere else, mostly from Europe, but they're not called European Americans - I've filled out lots of forms asking for race/ethnicity (the US really likes classifying people by race) and not one had a "European American" option. No, Europeans came to American, took it from Native Americans, claimed it as their own, and became the default face of American - everyone else gets labeled as some sort of subclass of American - Asian American, African American, Native American, etc.

Now given that the majority of black people in the US are native born, and have been for about two centuries, the term African American does not work for everyone. Some people may embrace their African ancestry, while others think, "I'm not from Africa, my parents aren't from Africa, I have no family in Africa, I've never even been to Africa, so why are you calling me an African American?" Some additionally feel the term African American makes them sound foreign, and thus black is preferable.

Another part is that, at least in the US, slavery stripped their culture and identity from them and thus they needed something new to come together around, to build a new culture, a new identity, a new sense of unity and belonging. And given that black people faced discrimination and racism even after the abolition of slavery, and still face them today, it aids people in coming together against a common problem.

Looking at Canada, as that's where you appear to be from, the majority of Canadian blacks are from the Caribbean, so African Canadian is even less appropriate. And rather than having African Canadian and Caribbean Canadian as two separate terms, black has become the all encompassing term.

It's also partly the US itself - the US loves classifying its citizens by race. While some European countries don't take racial or ethnicity data on their census, the US asks it on practically every government form.

Will changing words really change racism?

No, of course not, but it doesn't hurt. I see a vehement opposition to it here, and I don't really understand it. If whitelist and blacklist are replaced by, say, nice list and naughty list, does it negatively affect you in any way? If the change was made tomorrow, you'd probably think, "Well, that's dumb, but whatever," and go on with your life the same as before. But if it makes someone else feel better, isn't it worth it?

There's an ongoing debate in the US about the Washington Redskins. The term "redskin" is considered by many (most?) Native Americans as an offensive slur, and thus having a major sports team using an offensive slur for its name is hurtful and inappropriate. I get that some people feel attached to the Washington Redskins as their team, but you can change the name and the team stays the same and you can keep rooting for them. Teams have changed names before, even relocated across the country, and it wasn't the end of the world. Here the team wouldn't even go anywhere, it would literally be the same team with a slightly different name, so why not drop the offensive ethnic slur? The team could even get a better name in the process - like the Washington Dinosaurs. They could sell a ton of new merchandise - I mean, who doesn't like dinosaurs?