While Steam is down...

Old games are harder than new ones.... but we have some hard games in these days too

For me, Dark Souls (the first one) was the only game that I almost give up (in Four Kings battle)

I do, as long as you don't tell me you tried one of the late games (like Sands of Time), that would just be bad :P

Honestly I don't know if it's hard nowadays, I never tried it again (I was traumatized to the point I decided to just go and play California Games instead facepalm). I know I had a really hard time with it, but it was SO MUCH FUN at the same time!

Seriously, do try it, then let me know how it goes with you =)

Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time, Prince of Persia: Warrior Within, Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones

They aren't considered hard but have some challenging moments!

For that feeling of real dread lol. Death comes for us all; brutally and out of nowhere or comfortable and peaceful but inevitable.

The story of Wizardry 1 is that a king hires a bunch of adventurers to vanquish an evil mage. The story of Wizardry IV is that you're the vanquished mage who wants to get his power back. the ghost is the king from the first game. (also, the game is old as fuck)

But, at least in Dark Souls you start with some basic equipment and can find the key. In Wizardry IV you have no equipment, but there's a summoning circle, where you can summon creatures to aid you. you then need to pace around the room and eventually enemies will attack you. Still won't help you out of the room.

The trick is that one of the weaker creatures that you can call to aid you can cast a light spell, which is completely useless in a fight. But, with the light spell active, you can keep pacing around the 2x2 room until you find a hidden passage. Thing is, you can't tell the creatures you summon what action to take. So, without a walkthrough, you basically need to be dumb and select the weak creature (or just try them all), walk around until you get into, and survive) enough fights for the creature to randomly cast the spell, then keep pacing in circles until you stumble upon the passage.

Then, while stumbling for the next exit, you need to (a) not run into the ghost of the king which will insta-kill you, and (b) survive any other random encounter.

I've never made it past the second level, even with a walkthrough and being infinitely familiar with the earlier and later games.

(on the other hand, Wizardry VII is the greatest old-school RPG, but that's a different conversation entirely)

Isn't a shame to admit this in my opinion... I don't like when I have to say that I don't beat game x or y

That's why we collect thousands of them: always an excuse to quit and try another.

I'll try it someday hahaha kidding

This happened to me days ago. I was playing Dark Souls 2 and suddenly my computer (in fact, the energy of the house) just downed. When it cames back, I had lost all my progress (two bosses' kill) #sad

Only few french and russian people did :D

1985, so a bit older game ^^ Had great music and nice graphics on it's time but the difficulty level was kind of hard. Well as you have said earlier on this thread, older games were hard! One of the reasons could also be that you couldn't google any help, you could buy some game magazines but there was never tips for everything.

I don't care dying much i believe in your first run you can come where i am with 300-400 deaths. I didn't die much in Dark Souls though.