No CV for region restricted giveaways

Games which were 95% off or more in ANY region will go on the bundled list.

It'll never happen.
Some people are stuck making region restricted giveaways, so it wouldn't really be fair to them.

Yeah, screw you for not living in a ROW region !

Are you living in a country that has a region restricted steam store? Then you do not deserve cv for your giveaways! That's what you're saying. xD Oh God, are you kidding me? xD What you are saying has no logic at all. Maybe you want them to move countries or something?

Do we even need to point out why thats not fair

It would be unfair to deny it. A possible solution would be to only give partial credit for non-row games, such as 25% less for South America.
But, and we all know which demographic I'm talking about, a bunch of people could make a private group and farm levels anyway. So, is it really worth the effort? And is it really fair? Living in Germany, the average income is literally five times as high as it is in Brazil. So if someone in Brazil buys, say, Mafia III for 130 Real, that's 32 Euro (a little over half the 60 euro it costs in Germany), they will have spent more than twice as much, relative to their income.

Not everybody can afford the same things for the same prices :(

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Pretty much as pointed out countless other times as well...

• Create Russian/CIS Steam Group
• Invite People from Russia/CIS only
• Create giveaways for that group, region restricted but not set as such
• ???
• Profit. (aka "normal" CV)

With no real way to police it, you'd also be disallowing group giveaways entirely. And if did that, would just get them to start whitelisting each other instead.

It's fine as it is, honestly. Plus in certain instances even HumbleBundle keys have been known to be region locked, they're paying the ordinary dollar price in bundles, just like everyone else, and potentially getting screwed for such if there happens to be regional locking in place for that bundle.

You can use sgtools.
rule : real_sent_region_free

It's an old problem, it won't be solved, so ignore it and carry on :c

That is true that people who gave away 100$ worth of REAL money spent and people gave away 1000$ REAL money spent are on the exact same level/cv. But there is absolutely nothing we can do about it, I just blacklist those RU/CIS guys who only gave away RU/CIS copies.

But you can always create "sgtools" protected giveaways with custom rules to eliminate those people.

this is, by far, the oldest debate that will never be solved.

Use the SGTools rule Rhllor just noted, it works just fine.
Public giveaways are always a mess, but you can pretty much control your giveaway conditions without issue now outside of that, between groups and SGTools filters.

I don't think it's SG's job to be making massive exclusions/restrictive rules, not when SGTools offers that functionality for anyone that desires it.

In other words, start with open arms, and let people customize the site to suit their needs.
That's far fairer than trying to make the site an exclusive club to begin with, even if there are justifications for being concerned at some of the elements involved.

no, it's not my fault valve decided to region lock my country.

I can't say it's fair.

can't quite understand what you're trying to say..

based on the comments below, I take you're asking SG to screw people like me, who live in a country Valve/Steam/devs/whatever decided to screw with region restrictions AKA no trading AND to make it WORSE, no special price, true, go look for Argentina and tell me we aren't getting screwed, I dare you!

I can see what you mean, but your suggestion would have no effect on any of that, therefore it's kinda useless.

what.

I kind of hate this discussion because there is no reasonable solution to this problem and every time it is brought up it rips open old wounds and creates tension but this time I was annoyed of the one-sidedness of the argument so I guess I'll say my piece.

I completly understand that it can be frustrating having to give a premium game to somebody who never created a GA you could have joined and who maybe could have purchased the same game for a fraction of what you've paid for it BUT since if regional CV was nerfed people would just circumvent it with small groups there's nothing that can be done about it.

For me personally this has become less of a concern as I have pretty much stopped buying non Bundle games just for GAs and with Bundle games... except VAT everybody pays the same for those which levels the playfield.

Well, I had suggested a solution for this kinda of threads months ago.
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/52xvk/an-idea-that-could-solve-the-region-locked-cv-problem

The problem is, the current system doesn't measure what it is supposed to - contribution value to the SG site. Honestly - should my Witcher 3 GA made for a closed group have the same value as forum or public one? I don't think so. The same goes for all other restrictions: region lock, sgtools, levels, private forum and so on.

I think most fair system for most of user would be based on formula CV = entries_received us_store_price time_decay_factor. This takes care of all kinds of restrictions (less entries -> lower CV) and promotes continuous giving (CV falls with time). This could even possibly allow for completly getting rid of bundle list (or at the very least bundling because of regional pricing).

The system could be introduced as secondary along current one to not anger vocal group having vested interest in current system.

It's not perfect - puzzle makers would take most severe hit but imo they don't make puzzles because of CV (and get WL spots for doing them)