Do you use sliders when you buy Weekly bundles?
Nasty nerf, I can't take away money from HB and Charity anymore :(
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Sometimes they've had the charity locked-in and not allowed you to choose one to override it. Further, while Humble has yielded to pressure on removing hate-group charities or other extremely dubious charities, they have left in some that are a bit.. well, ones which don't feel overly productive, or which don't appear to be applying their funds productively.
In that case, it's pretty normal to take from both the charity and HB, as a sort of protest against the bizarre restriction [given that HB's system is linked into the Paypal Giving Fund, meaning that- much like Smile.Amazon or the like- it's rather straightforward to have users select their own charities (and, indeed, that's was at a time the norm for Humble)] to a disfavored charity.
Think that's about the only time you'd [reasonably] move the sliders away from the charity, though (nevermind charity and Humble both), as generally the issue a purchaser would have would be with a publisher or with the occasional Humble snafu.
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Remember when they said "nothing's gonna change"...?
sigh
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nothing's gonna change... and when the situation calms down we change slowly everything (to bad of course) :]
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I used sliders moderately but some people made it a sport and expressed at every opportunity, how they wouldn't give HB or some publisher anything at all. It would hardly be a surprise if such a behavior backfired.
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Well, it shouldn't backfire since it was the way it was supposed to work.
Support charity. Choose where the money goes - between the publisher, ACLU and Freedom to Read via PayPal Giving Fund. If you like what we do, you can leave us a Humble Tip too!
(Humble Tip was not really optional since they always assigned themselves a share, so you were always giving them a tip -unless they mean that you could give an extra tip on top of what they took)
I used the sliders mostly to increase the part that goes to charities.The way I split it was also affected by several factors:
- If the bundle was by a single publisher and it contained lots of rebundles or items had region locks, less money for them
- If you could split between several publishers, I would only distribute their sliders equally between the games that were not rebundles
- Including games that were given away for free in the past dramatically affected the "publishers" slider
- If the games were already bundled and the keys given away by the publisher were for another package with the same contents (i.e. you could inadvertenly redeem the key on top of the game you already had), meant 0% for the publisher
- Single Steam key for several items and I was missing only one or two of them, again 0% for the publisher
- Bundles loaded with DLCs but not complete (choo-choo!), 0% for the publisher
- Bundles with games that were standard editions that could not be upgraded to the special/deluxe editions via DLC, 0% for the publisher
- All games in tier 1 and 2 are rebundles and tier 3 includes a few rebundled games and one game unbundled game that I'd really want, 0% for the publisher, 0% for Humble
- If Humble had recently screwed something up, 0% for Humble
Books and comics are another world, since they always have a lot of things that were already included in previous bundles. If that's the case, I go "all in" for the charity. I think humble should state in the bundle page which items were included in a previous bundle by the same publisher (No Starch Press, Dynamite, Boom, Packt,...) because almost every time it's the previous bundle published a year ago (sometime some months ago) with one-two new books/comics added to the highest tiers.
TLDR; sliders are important to me.
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A whole lot of yes from me on those guidelines. Maybe not 100% lockstep, but that is (was) the way to do it.
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I can see these sliders in recent VR bundle or did I miss something?
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I got the first tier a few days ago, and i did see a slider, now i don't see it anymore either.
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It's been a while since I bought a bundle outside of the monthlies, but I used to use the sliders when I did buy them. I generally did an equal split for each. It's a little sad to see the sliders gone, but I can understand getting rid of it too. I'd have preferred some form of middle ground, like putting a minimum amount for individual sliders. For example, not being able to slide below 25% of the price, so you could put Humble at 25% and split the other 75% of the price between the dev/publisher and charity, or something to that effect.
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i usually set the charity slider to ~90% for the charity of my choice and split the rest between the publisher and HB. I almost never gave to the suggested charity, I think?
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I can still adjust sliders on the Spring Into VR Bundle using my account that is subscribed to Humble Choice. However, I can not adjust the sliders on my account that is not subscribed to choice. Perhaps they made Choice mandatory to adjust where your money goes?
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I'm subscribed to Choice too, but I can't see the sliders regardless of whatever I logged in or not.
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Well, that blows my theory. But it definitely is strange that some accounts can still adjust and others cannot.
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Still working for me.
Don't know if it's a account/region specific change or not....
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I don't see the sliders now either wierd.
I usually set it to around 35% publisher, 50% charity, 15% humble loosely. Thinking about it, isn't it crazy that 5% qualifies as charity? It should be 10-20% minimum.
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The top contributors' board will look a lot lower for sure. It's not like we got to choose about HB Choice/monthly or store purchases(past 20%) before anyways.
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I can't remember last time when they had something on level of I must get this all now... So that might also affect things...
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All bundles still advertise:
Support charity. Choose where the money goes - between the publisher, ACLU and Freedom to Read via PayPal Giving Fund. If you like what we do, you can leave us a Humble Tip too!
It has to be an error, right? RIGHT?
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Some Reddit-related discussion abut this: https://www.reddit.com/r/humblebundles/comments/mqo7dj/the_slider_for_the_bundles_where_we_can_decide/
It seems that not everyone has them hidden.
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hidden for me. bailing on humble bundle if they don't come back.
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So basically, it's "Choose where the money goes until we don't like your choice" kind of thing. Scummy move from Humble. If it wasn't acceptable to them, they could limit min sum on some categories, instead of covertly doing some shady things.
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Oh, this is fun bullshit... If I go on page with new private browser I see the sliders...
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Strange... I don't see them even with a private window. But the page still reads "Support charity. Choose where the money goes - between the publishers and a charity of your choice...". I don't think it makes much sense.
The DOM contains an element with an ID of "order-form-split-step", but it's empty.
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They are there in my private browsing... See the bottom window... Also it seems there is some js trickery too...
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No, someone in the Reddit thread pointed it out, it's a JS setting. So it's intentional and apparently targeted.
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People say it depends on your sliding history, so to say. For private windows... IP address maybe, since your private is different from my private :]
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Wow, that would be lame...
EDIT: Another reason to push that slider all the way down to 0% for Humble :D :D :D :D
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To be honest I've been having problems with their site for ages.
- When I buy a bundle, the purchase page (thank you for your purchase, get your games/books here -> link) is empty, although I do receive all the usual confirmation e-mails including the one with the "download link".
- If I use the download link from that e-mail, the middle part (the one including the bundle contents) is blank.
- Some bundles won't show in the purchase section of my account
However, I do have quite a number of bundles in my account, so perhaps it's related to that.
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its been ages since they have given out games i wanted. only reason i buy the bundles is to give 100% to charity.
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Just checked: the sliders are gone for me too.
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So it seems humble bans you from editing sliders if you lessen their cut. While also increasing their default cut.
Very humble, IGN.
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soooo new account every time you make a purchase, got it!!!
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I think the reason why it didn't show for everyone at the same time is maybe it took some time to roll out.
Now I checked from my account and from a bunch of different browsers and IPs without being logged in, the sliders are nowhere to be found. It's sad I really liked that... Now I can't even see how the money is distributed :x
Anyway, the main reason why I kept buying a few bundles was to give to charity, so now I guess I'll be saving money.
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I know people who have made purchases in the meantime and can still see it.
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^^^when ever it was a game i enjoyed to the max got every bundle i could, gave at least 90% to charity and gave all the keys away to friends and here
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They've been gone for a week now for me. This just makes me angry. I won't be buying anything from Humble until the sliders come back.
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i put in a support request to humble bundle about it
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If you look at the page source, the hide sliders is set as true https://imgur.com/ZhWhs5Y
This thread explains a group theory which seems accurate.
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Thanks for the reddit link. I agree, seems very plausible. I tend to give Humble 1% of the buy, and my sliders are gone.
I don't get it. They could just have set it to 10% minimum or something, and still have allowed splitting the rest as I see fit.
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If you look at the page source, the hide sliders is set as true https://imgur.com/ZhWhs5Y
You mean JavaScript source? Because I'm viewing the PAGE source of the VR bundle from an incognito and logged in browser sessions, and "hide_sliders" doesn't appear in page source, nor do any sliders.
The verbiage around sliders hasn't seemed to change, other than perhaps specifying PayPal:
Support charity. Choose where the money goes - between the publishers and a charity of your choice via PayPal Giving Fund. If you like what we do, you can leave us a Humble Tip too!
So I guess after slider usage, HB's mechanism for giving the money to charity is "PayPal Giving Fund"?
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Always has been! Fortunately I work for a charity and can see the backend has not changed.
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they are there for me, just have to go all the way down an click "Choose where your money goes" and then the sliders appear
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My sister's account does display the sliders. She very rarely buys games for her kids, and she says she never bought a bundle.
My own account does not display sliders. I regularly bought bundles, and oftentimes when pissed by Humble gave all the money to charity.
So that pretty much supports the reddit theory.
This sucks.
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In Humble Weekly (non-Choice) bundles you could use sliders to direct money you are paying for the bundle to either publishers, charity (often you could choose which one), or Humble itself. It was still there a few days ago, now it's gone from all bundles. I wonder is it a bug or a new feature? I hope it's not the latter case because both default proportion that goes to charity (≈10%) and default charities are kinda insignificant, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.
Update 1:
So, it seems Humble officially getting rid of sliders now in exchange for an "extra to charity" option, which increases charity percentage from 5 to 15. I don't know how it'll work in case of a few charities present. I guess you'll be forced to support the charity you are not interested in. It was good while it lasted. Humble continues to sink further it seems... It sucks.
Update 2:
It seems Humble Bundle reversed this decision. I can confirm that sliders are back on all bundles. At least for now.
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