so is it true? do you see better performance?
Actually the 9600 GT was midrange even when it originally came out... a used GTX 275 while old but very sturdy would be likely a simple upgrade for sub 40$
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fn3rIrb864
Granted the 960 is much more modern at roughly twice the perf.... buuut its way more than 35-40$ ^^
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At that time when i got 9600 i was running games at medium-highs but with time i had to go down and down with settings until i stopped playing games cause i had to run them on lowest possible config and resolution. I've bought 960 cause for some time i wanted to have that privilage and comfort to run games at maxed settings. Now i just need to upgrade CPU to run 2015 AAA titles perfectly.
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Cheers...
If you're atching for AMD - they're releasing their good stuff in 2016. Some used Intel parts could still be be pretty pricey but can be had right now. Excellent price / perf ratio would be modified Xeons E5xxx like E5450 can be had at sub 50$ ... which replace a Q9650. You need some above average memory for this to reach the higher clocks. OC usually to 4.0ghz. More modern ones like a good olde sandy i5 2500k which give a nice boost per MHz though are in the 120$+ range but i'd generally lean to the latter as the can be OC'd in the 4.x range usually upto 4.3 - 4.5ghz. Obviously It does need some more serious cooling mind you to get high clock d'accord with acceptable noise levels.
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You will see a small improvement only if you are limited by the CPU. But... that improvement fades away very quickly because (In my case) alt tab in/out of games is slower , a lot of games don't work properly [GTA IV needs a lot of tinkering , Borderlands 2 is an absolute nightmare (enters main menu in 1.5 min , loads up the map in 1 min ... , on W7 it was 1 min from desktop to map) . Skype acoustic echo cancellation isn't working . In GTA V I didn't see that much of a difference , maybe a 5-10% increase in "FPS smoothness".] <- Maybe all of them are specific to my computer , I'm not sure . But , I'm sure that once I upgrade my PC next month I will not install Windows 10 , I will wait M$ to fix some things .
Also , they don't have Clash of Clans on the M$ Store , WTFFFFFFFFFFFF .
** I like that Windows 10 already had a lot of drivers ready from the start . On W7 I must install the Internet driver :| , that's a pain in the......
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Borderlands runs fine with wine:
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=22390&iTestingId=86087
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My reg:
GPU: Gtx 660 3gb oc
CPU: i5-4440
Ram: 8Gb
Performance on win 8.1
AC:Unity (Ultra-1080p-FXAA) 27-32fps
The Witcher 3 (ULTRA-AA-1080p-low rendering distance) 30fps
On win 10
Ac:Unity (same settings) 30-40Fps
The Witcher 3 ( same settings with high rendering distance) 27-35fps
so yup there's actual improvement not too much as you can see but these 5-10fps made my gameplay more stable with less frequent frame drops on demanding games.
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I really cant believe that. Why should old games in dx9 or dx11 get faster under dx12 ?? Older games will never get dx12-support and windows-10 isn´t supporting dx-5 so very old (but good) games like commandos-1,2,3 wont run
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I have read :)
But there are always two sides. Maybe most of the users reporting increase in performance have made a clean install. W7 runing for years (even w8 runing for a year) maybe slower than a fresh W10. I have upgraded the pc of my daughter W8.1 pro to W10 without clean install (saving time to reinstall many programs). So far every program works fine, even thunderbird has no problems keeping all mails - but performance increase ? She doesnt recognize.
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There's a performance increase in rigs that have a GPU with FULL or PARTIAL support for Dx12.
Basically new GPUs will work better than their non-dx12 counterparts, semi-new GPUs with partial support may or may not have a slight performance incrase, older GPUs won't have any performance increase.
That's what I know :D
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Win 10 have shitload of problems but performance ain't one. It literally saved me from buying a new CPU, mine was going %100 on all games ( I use an AMD 1075T X6 @3.38 GHz), then randomly drop %1 usage and lag in every single game I own. Win 10 solved my issue AND I got a FPS boost in all of my games. It was probably the new AMD drivers that increased FPS but hell, I had no problems on W10 so far.
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It was a bad OC profile on my MOBO and yes a fresh install was the thing that solved it. But the thing is, installing W10 solved a shitload of problems on my MOBO. W8 features option on my mobo used to rape my OS, now it works flawlessly on W10 and my OC profiles work perfectly now.
Sorry if I caused any misunderstandings,all I'm saying is I'd never try a fresh install to solve a hardware problem W10 was just a lucky hit. But overall I'm in love with this OS ^^
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when you have all your driver and software on a cd/ usb key, the fastest thing to do is a fresh install (depending of your os) windows 7 and 8 is faster to instal than scanning for virus/spyware most of the time (but that always depend of your issue some can be easily removed with out destroying some windows feature )
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a 2 tb with 1200 gb used a tb with 800 gb used a 500 gb hdd with 300 gb used and a 256 gb ssd with 120 gb used (well that is only 3.5 min) fresh instal for window 8 is about 20-30 min then you can do thing while the update download, you alway can instal it on another partition then transfer the file the the new one and remove it.
But it's always depend of your problems, some time a scan is faster and some time a fresh install can be better
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if you transfer files to the new location - that's kindev miss the point of fresh install (from virus point of view)...
and fresh install force you to also install all the apps again that you want to use - that's takes time :-)
you also can schedule the scan to night time or time you are at work etc' ...
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I upgraded to 10 a couple weeks ago, I have not noticed any changes in performance either good or bad. Basically the performance is exactly the same as when I was using 7. I do recommend upgrading though, 10 is great and has many new features. The majority of video card manufacturers have a windows 10 driver out. The only problems I have had is that one of my older games doesn't run at all on 10, Risen. It's weird because I have much older games that do work, such as Doom, Quake, Unreal Tournament '99, etc...
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Gaming wise, performance is pretty much the same, the OS though, does feel smoother IMO. I also like some of the new features and improvements.
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I'm sticking with win 7 because in win 10 i wont be able to pick and choose the updates I install because it's Home premium and in Win 10 Home versions you have no control, you get every update automatically installed even if it breaks you PC like some of the Win 7 updates did.
I also want to see if Nvidia actually hold true to there word about DX 12 support from all GPU's from the 400's on warders I'm holding off getting a new GPU in the hopes that Pascal is going to make me wan to pony up cash lol Current offerings from the 600 700 and 900 range just don't appeal to me.
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For winfail 10 i recommend this tool for blocking m$ sniffing around. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85556593/SDCutTheLine.exe (made by ppl who made spybot search & destroy anti malware :p)
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Civ: Beyond Earth has Mantle support... which would be the near equivalent to Dx12
http://www.hardwarepal.com/civ-beyond-earth-benchmark-mantle-vs-directx-truth-revealed/
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Planned obsolescence sucks.
If I had the means, I would have a dual-boot Linux/Win7 system.
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Well, I can play shogun 2 on high 25-30 fps with intel hd 4000 on win 10. So thats pretty good
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On My Personal Experience with Windows 10 , they do Actually improve my Rigs speed both on Gaming and both on Startup of my System .
When I had windows 7 it took like 1 minute from the time I pressed to power button till I would be able to star the Internet Browser or Open Steam , but with Windows 10 I can do the same thing in 10-15 SECONDS ! That's Amazing and i'm not done yet ,
from what I have observed using my Nvidia FPS tool I've gotten like 5-10 Fps Increase on most games witch might not sound much but it's a Huge improvement on Low-end computers like mine !
So . . . Definitely Windows 10 !
Hope I Helped you ! ^_^
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I own Windows 10 on 2 PCs. On my desktop performance of overall things (not only games) was improved. But games too. But... there is no games with directx12 yet, so it will be even better when they start enabling dx12 in games.
In conclusion...
But You have to know:
Few things about Windows 10:
And generally I like Windows 10. Despite that problems You can encounter, it's really good system. At least for normal user, that don't regularly do complex things with system. I just use it for Internet, music, games etc. So... I don't know what it looks like when You use it more advanced.
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They just said what i wrote. BIOS wouldn't compatible with Windows 10. But I have two PCs, notebook has no problem. Desktop encounter it after half a month or later...
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They upgraded my BIOS, but I only say it because for people to know that this can happen. Windows never was 100% working :p It's like swiss cheese :D Holes and more holes :D
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For me performance wise, it has made a significant difference. I use a performance monitor and I took some notes of before and after to see exactly how well or worse windows 10 performed. I used to have everything turned off on windows 7 so I could optimize my usage experience, and now even with everything turned back on and with windows 10 doing what it does to keep you connected to all of your accounts it still runs faster than windows 7 for me. I would recommend you give windows 10 a try as you can revert back to windows 7 anytime you wish within 30 days if you dislike it for any reason.
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I dont know, i tell u when DX12 games arrived by the end of this year. But maybe you find in this article some nice info about what mean DX12 for real.
"The most significant improvements to be expected from these changes are primarily reducing CPU overhead and improving parallelization. In turn, this means that performance in situations which were not CPU limited with previous APIs will not change much. In many games and genres, particularly on PCs with fast CPUs, the most noticeable effect could well be a decrease in CPU usage and power consumption"
Full Article :
http://www.pcgamer.com/what-directx-12-means-for-gamers-and-developers
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i read here and there of users say that there is improvement of 10-20% on system/gaming performance (even on older rigs and graphic cards) so the question is it true? is it worth switching to?
if so what exactly do you need to do (by steps if possible) in order to:
thanks :-)
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