What's your opinion?
I don't think so, no.
I like to think steamtrades as a market, where as long as a buyer and a seller agrees to trade and it occurs without problem, then it's fair game.
Just because you agreed to a trade, does not seal it until it happens. Buyer has right to buy or trade from someone else before and deny you the trade.
You were late to accept FR, too bad, find another trader.
(unless the other guy impersonated/ pretended to be you; THAT would be an offense and can be reported with proof.)
Finally, giving -rep without a trade happening between you to is a big, BIG no-no. Don't do it.
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I understand that anyone can change his opinion and so. What it bugs me is that another user overtakes me to do the EXACT trade that I've agreed to do with the first user.
Now that you mention the last part, I've never got why you can't -rep someone who is rude and insults you, although in the end you don't trade with him. If it were a physical store I'm pretty sure that you would try to make everyone know how bad the attention is.
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That's life.
At the market, the buyer who is ready earlier with the money gets the goods.
At ebay, the buyer with the last and highest bid gets the trade.
In trade/economics, no such code, honor, or morals apply.
You've done plenty of trading.
How would you feel if you completed a trade, suddenly someone -reps you,
claiming he has sealed the deal with your buyer days ago?
Or if someone -reps you after a successful trade, claiming you were impolite?
This is why rep is only used to indicate scams or scam attempts.
Because trading experiences are subjective.
But do as you like - poll shows what most people on SG/ST think though.
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I don't think (or at least, I'd like to believe so) morals can be taken out of economics so easily. At least, at a personal level, I see how some buyers avoid certain shops for how the owner is or behaves although he may have good prices or it's well located.
I was talking about a high level of impoliteness, like changing the offer every minute, insulting, delaying the trade on purpose making you waste unnecesarily 30 minutes. You may not be scammed, but it's not a pleasant experience for anyone.
I'm not gonna report, I was asking because it's happened something similar 3 times in a row and it's annoying. I just wanted to know if I could report for this or not. According to guidelines hijacking is not permitted and I know that my point of view is the least objective in this situation, so I asked.
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Unfortunately, this is largely the case - hence, contracts, to prevent either side from bailing out of the deal.
Personal preference and pleasant experience is a different issue.
Have you considered that haggling is a cultural thing?
In some cultures, it would be unusual for a trade to occur without haggling to the penny.
(i.e. some Eastern cultures - some Chinese, Indians, Arabs... some really enjoy this process too)
This process does, in fact, include insulting, changing offers rapidly, "pretending" to leave the store...
Meanwhile, "modern" society disdains such practices.
Hence, since mileage on what is considered "polite" varies, use of rep is limited as such.
Finally, hijacking in this context, I believe, would be something like:
You open a thread with an offer.
I come into your thread and say, look at this guy, making such bad offers, trade me instead for la la la.
...but don't take my word for it - a support member has replied to you, yes?
And finally, remember that you are free to do as you like, as long as you are willing to accept the consequences :)
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Obviously I didn't consider the cultural thing to haggling. I'll have it in mind for the next time.
My conception of hijacking were more like you open a thread, someone says I offer you this game, another trader replies to him "Added, I'll trade with you". Thus, I found the situation similar, just without the message in my thread.
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No, that's just trading for you. When it comes to trading (via internet or face-to-face), there is always a possibility that someone can out-trade you by offering a more attractive trade, or closing the deal more quickly. That's life for you. P
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It happens from time to time, I don't believe this is something you can report or -rep. Just move on. There are cases where I talked to the person on ST and both party agree upon what was being traded, only to have the person back out or try to rework the deal saying his game is worth more or that I should just give him the games for free cause they were once free before or that is a low value game. Best you can do is just move on. There isn't really rules set up that say you have to trade with that person just cause you agree on it, that's more up to the user to act in good faith and honor and respecting what is agreed on.
As the hijacking part, most trader will respect and not trade with others for the deal agreed upon but there are those who don't really care who they trade with as long as they get what they want. Just consider it unlucky this time
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Hi there, this is my first discussion, so sorry for the absence of giveaway :( (next time).
I've been trying to trade a game, and in the last week 3 trade attempts (all of them very similar) have gone wrong. The first 2 were more or less excusable, but yesterday I asked a guy if was interested in trading A for B, he said yes and sent me a friend request (which I accepted 2 hours later).
When I've entered steam today I've found that he had unfriended me, I've added him again and after talking to him, it turns out that another trader from SG had added him and offered exactly the same trade without having any interaction with him on SG first (I suppose he saw the conversation between the other user and I in steamgifts and decided to try to be faster (unfortunately for me, he was)).
So my question is: is this supposed to be hijacking and can this behaviour be reported? In case it is, should I leave him -rep or is the report enough?
P.S. I'm not a native speaker, so if I've committed any mistake writing, I'd be grateful if you'd point it out.
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