Are you saying that you idled 600 hours continuously before this happened? Steam goes down every Tuesday at 4 P.M. PST for scheduled maintenance so I don't know how you were able to have it work so long without issues until now.
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no way lol thats impossible
im saying i had idled 600 hours total :D
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I wasn't even aware that the program had those statistics until now. I was trying to figure out how you were able to keep it running that long. LOL
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its easier to use and im used to it already and it works so no need to change
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is hard when you know nothing :P
still using idlemaster here :)
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It's not as hard as you might think! In fact, following the steps on the wiki (see "Quick Configuration") makes it able to use ASF after a few minutes. Of course, you can go into more detail and do more complex stuff, but for the basic farming, this is everything you need. :)
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steam was down, he probably didn't know that was the issue, so turns out Idlemaster works as good as ever
he got the answer he needed, so the thread was useful for him...
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I use it too
very simple and straightforward to use, works fine, is easily portable on USB
got no reason to use time getting something else to work when I already got this to work fine and still works fine
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But...idlemaster still works for me im very misoneist
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i tried to idle games on my alt account with it, but idk something didnt work cuz it spent like 1-1,5 hours without idling a single card and i went back to idlemaster :D
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This might have been because of this:
As of June 17, 2015, you must play a game for a minimum of 2 hours before you'll receive a card from a game. This is because of the addition of the Steam refund system, where you can get a refund for any game that you've purchased in the last 2 weeks that has less than 2 hours of playtime.
Source: Steam Trading Cards wikia
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no, cuz using idlemaster is fine, and i never refunded anything neither on my main or alt (cuz i dont buy stuff im gonna refund lol)
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Yes, but the fact that you can refund is why cards don't drop during the first two hours. Otherwise, you could buy a game, play it for less than two hours, collect a few cards and refund the game.
The wikia also states the following:
After the first 2 hours of play time, card drops will occur as normal. Exception: If you have owned the game for more than two weeks before registering any play time, card drops can (but might not) drop sooner than the first 2 hours of gameplay.
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Well, if you already played a game for two hours or if you played a game for less than two hours, but more than two weeks ago, you can get card drops without having to wait. This should be the case for both IdleMaster and ASF.
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no, what im saying is i just get a game from steam for like 20 cents and start idling, and i get drops without waiting anything it only takes 1,5 hours to get all 3 drops
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Mh, I think this shouldn't happen, not sure why it does.
Anyway, I think both IM and ASF are great tools, however, IM is discontinued and ASF is better in several terms. It's fine for everyone to keep using IM who wants to and maybe switch to ASF once IM is no longer supported.
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i think it should work for everyone like for me who has never refunded anything
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Ironically IM gave me issues when it was supported. Now when it isn't it's been working smoothly for me.
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maybe you know why they dont do updates anymore? why dont continue the good work
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Developer said he made and updated as long as he was idling cards and interested. Now he doesn't feel he has time to. Something like that. I suspect it could be due to constant steam api changes and badge page upgrades or due to archibot taking over in ways IM can't hope to. I personally think he just gave up.
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:/ i really like IM more cuz its easier to use :D for me asf is like really uncomfortable
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If I recall correctly it was because he programmed IM to easily get the cards from his games and sell them. After Valve introduced the 15 day market hold unless you're using mobile authenticator he said Idle Master was no more of use to him personally so he dropped support.
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Thats right. I remembered that a bit after replying and was replying to that and you just beat me to it by the second.
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Actually the new steam market hold for 15 days without phone irked him. he found the idea of not being able to sell farmed cards 15 days crappy and felt he didn't have enough motivation to work for farming cards. I remember now.
Just found that link here it is his explanation.
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/idlemastery#announcements/detail/666902171288054077
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well you can use computer to activate the authenticator :/ just wait 7 days and no more waiting 15 days
also especially with the recent app update where you can mark everything you sell and sell at once its really easy then
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yes I am sure he knows that. maybe being a dev who can work around steam himself he feels it's unsafe the authenticator. he can see it more clearly than we can I suppose. or maybe sharing his phone no on ANY platform takes away his anonymity and his power so he can't be traced. Even PC authenticator makes you feed your no and we don't know where it is being stored.
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but now its all good so he could continue the work :D
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what do you mean? you just activate the authenicator in phone or like android emulator on pc and just wait 7 days, and then you can sell and trade without waiting anything
and now you can confirm multiple sell orders at once so that makes it easy
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IM stopped working for me at one point so I had to switch to ASF, but it weirdly started working again suddenly. Now I use ASF on my alts and IM on my main, because I don't think there's a certain way to make ASF idle more games until 2h, so it's kinda time wasting for me because I don't want my main to be constantly idling. But ASF makes it possible for me to idle on my other accs without actually logging in over and over for every single game.
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In ASF it runs all games 2 hours then goes solo. if you added a few games midway they won't finish 2 hours run and will idle more separately once 2 hours common are done. IM will make sure all games idle 2 hours and make extra time to idel last entries but wills ave independent time later. So if you add 5 games at 1 hour stage in both, ASF will stop common idling and those 5 games will each take an hour more each so overall 5 hours more when their turn comes. IM will just push on one hour but make sure they cross 2 hours together and save on 4 hours needed more later. Unless ASF fixed that and I haven't looked closely that is. I prefer to run 2 hours on IM then solo runs on ASF.
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I was reading up on that today and there seems to be a way to do that.
You can find the detailled explanation here but I think you just have to change "Cards drops restricted" to true. I can't check right now if that can be done in the Config generator because apparently ASD was updated and I can't open the generator until I download the new one but I assume so.
There is no obvious answer which algorithm is better for you.
This is one of the reasons why you do not choose cards farming algorithm, instead, you tell ASF if account has restricted drops or not. If account has non-restricted drops, which is default setting, Simple algorithm will work better on that account, as we won't be wasting time on bringing all games to 2 hours. On the other hand, if your account has card drops restricted, Complex algorithm will be better for you, as there's no point in farming solo if game didn't reach 2 hours yet.
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thats why i dont want to use asf, all these algorithms and stuff make me sick :D
you just turn on idlemaster and you're set up, simple and straightforward
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Yea, I get that feeling. I used to use IdleMaster and was extremly hesitant to make the change myself because when I first checked it out about a month after it came out there was no config generator and the Wiki was pretty bad. Then I had to change to an old notebook because my PC was giving me trouble and started using first SAM and then IdleMaster Typhoon because the normal IdleMaster doesn't support Win XP. Now that I got my PC working again I checked out ASF and it's not that hard (although the Wiki still need a lot of improvement for the advanced features).
For example those algorithms you mentioned don't really concern you... You just switch "Card drops restricted" to true if your account is limited and that's it.
But as long as you're only farming one account there's no real reason for you to make the change unless IM stops working at some point.
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ASF is doing 2hrs farming much better then IM because IM from time to time is known to bug and to continue to farm all started games past 2hrs mark, until you notice and restart it. Also, IM is restricted to idle max 30 games at once, ASF afaik don't have that limitation.
Find in asf bot line "CardDropsRestricted": true, and you're set up.
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I didn't know that's how ASF worked, thanks. I read Sundance's comment as well. English is my second language and sometimes if it feels worded weirdly to me, I don't understand, and I was kinda afraid to ask anyone because I'm afraid they'd redirect me to the faq/github wiki even though I've read them and used some features but I couldn't understand that.
I've noticed IM has that problem, but it never really bothered me because I idle mostly only when I'm using my PC, and I check the status pretty often out of habit.
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Should have an option in ASF to idle all games <2 hours together.
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But like guygardner007 they only idle them separately, like : i have 7 games with 1.5 hour and 10 with 0 hour, ASF will idle first the 1.5 hour games until reach 2 hours, idle each game and after that idle the other 0 hour games.
Would be nice if idle them all until reach 2 hours, and separately, kinda hard to explain it but i tried :>
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ASF gets you the first couple of cards faster though. In your example, you would have to wait 2 hours to get the first card drop. Meanwhile, ASF's behavior would get you the first one in half an hour. And the total time is going to be the same either way, because eventually, those 10 games will get idled together.
Basically, here are the workflows, pretending that every game will be done dropping cards in 4 hours total for simplicity.
ASF:
Idle 17 games (30 minutes)
Idle 7 games individually (14 hours)
Idle 10 games (90 minutes)
Idle 10 games individually (20 hours)
TOTAL: 36 hours
What you want:
Idle 17 games (30 minutes)
Idle 10 games (90 minutes)
Idle 17 games individually (34 hours)
TOTAL: 36 hours
It's the same amount of time either way. Unless you're saying that your ASF just idles all 17 games individually, in which case you need to change your config file to tell it that your account has the 2 hour limit. If that's the case, you need to find the line that says "CardDropsRestricted" and change "false" to "true",
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Sit down
And count the points (◕‿-)✌
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its 8/1 and i am successfully using the unusable?
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R u sure , been using it this past week and its working perfectly fine ...
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Thats weird , then how come am i able to still use it perfectly fine ?
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SatouLilly is an ASF fanboi who likes to pretend that IM doesn't still work when of course it does because fanbois want you to think what they think even if they have to lie to convince you.
Just ignore.
P.S. I use ASF. Nevertheless SatouLilly is full of beans, or the flatulence you get from beans.
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Since this pretty much turned into an ASF help discussion could anybody please give me a step by step or point me to the right page in the Wiki for Key distribution and giving commands to my bots. I was looking for an hour today but couldn't find anything specific.
I assume I have to set "IsBotAccount" to true in the config but that's pretty much as far as I got.
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If you add me on steam I can help you out. (If you want)
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Thanks a lot for the offer but luckily somebody was already so kind to walk me through it. I think now I understand all the features I need for now. Thanks again ;)
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I dont understand why everyone keep Spamming use ASF , use ASF .... if he wanted to use ASF he would use it ...
OP had issue with IdleMaster , and just looked for help with it ...
I tried to use ASF , couldnt understand how to make it work , its like rocket science for me , just dont understand it ...so i just use IdleMaster instead .
Its still working perfectly fine ...
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Well, Idle Master is dead, ASF is not. Maybe thats why.
For a simple user with ASF, just enter ASF-ConfigGenerator.exe
Set Enabled to true
Enter SteamLogin and SteamPassword.
Runt ASF.exe
This is pretty much it.
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As i said the thing is Not working , thank you.
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https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=49981
Update .net framework
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Duno what Sam is , as for configuration .... Where :)
You get a single exe file ...
Anyway thanks for help .
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That actually made it work huh ...
Thank you verymuch for the help :)
On a side note , if i add 2 accounts , does it run both of them in the same time ?
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This is what I said in my first answer :) But glad you got it to work..
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It was kind hard to figure out m8 ... i tough i run the asf exe thingy and it installs the configuretor files .
Mentioning the archive was what did it for me :D
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yes, I farm 4 accounts at the same time. Also if you set them up as bots, you can send commands to them through steam chat, to redeem keys, send trade offers to you, pause/start farming etc.
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Yeah i just barely made it work now , lets not get into the nuclear science section yet :D
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i have idled 600+ hours and everything was ok
but now for some reason it doesnt work anymore
when i tried to idle, it said reading badge page and nothing happened in few mins, i tried restarting a few times
i reinstalled it and now when i try to login to it i just get a white screen instead of normal steam login screen
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