i bet if i look at your profile in 9 months it will be still there being played .... i will check.
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As most played game? Yeah, since I restrain myself from multiplayer games for a while now.
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Uhm.. Pardon me? I don't know how exactly both of you misinterpreted my statement, but I don't get why either he wants to check my profile then or why you saw a reason to insult me.
But ok..let's take it slowly:
I wrote "Bye, bye", because at the time of my posting the given information was that RL gets purchase disabled/removed from Steam store soon. I added "my most played game" as a short expression for how much I like the game and if you'd like to elaborate also as a hint, how popular the game at Steam is (because I'm surely not the only one).
Now I can only think of three misinterpretations:
- bragging? Well, 800 hours aren't much for a game which was released nearly 4 years ago. There are many community members with more hours in various games. A decade back when I was playing a MMORPG, I reached those hours within a year..
- that I meant that I would never play it again because of this decision. I didn't state that. I might be playing it again if they add new gameplay. The last time I played it for a few matches was when they introduced Dropshot (which is already two years ago).
If Caligu1a really wants to check for that, I could also trick him by using my PS4 copy. But honestly I don't care, because I didn't even "promise" anything. - that I would plan to play another game more than RL to remove it from the top spot? Nah, as I said I restrain myself from MP games. So that won't change.
In the end your reactions seem to state more about you than about me.
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A nice science experiment too...lets see how the player base fares
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As I understand, like lot of games removed from Steam, we won't lost the game if we already own it.
In the case we lost it, it's against Steam rules.
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Doesn't sound legal.
Yes, companys get away with shutting down servers leaving games unplayable.
But shutting down servers for 1 platform, a competing platform.
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Yes, usually you can continue playing removed/purchase disabled games. If you need a server connection it depends on how long the dev/publisher is supporting it (or if they stop supporting dedicated servers, few even add an offline mode).
This isn't known regarding Rocket League yet, but my goodbye was only referred to the Steam storefront.
Thanks though!
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Studio is cashing out...
Epic, fears Fortnite dying down so it's diversifying... Let's see if more of this kinda bullshit appears...
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Wow I feel bad now for ever supporting Psyonix. They never put the game on a deep sale and kept adding lootboxes,skins,DLC,season passes etc. And in the end it still wasn't enough for them.
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I mean it has to be profitable for Epic to trow money at devs again - and the price had to be quit decent for devs to agree for something like that..
Who does that ? I mean who buys out a company that is doing well ? ( I Suppose Rocket league was doing fine ?)
My guess, but probably Epic is again gambling with money and trowing astronomical numbers towards Psyonix hoping and praying that Rocket League brings the money back to them
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Epic had a massive windfall from Fortnite. They might see issues and risk with their long term core business of Unreal Engine... As such they are massively betting on various things to diversify and trying to gain other revenue sources. But I just don't see them succeeding...
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It totally was enough, that's why it was sold. The company's currently at its peak and the potential's endless. They have 1 successful game. That's all. This isn't a guaranteed win. Better cash out while you still have a profitable product and no recent failures.
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wow. this is whole new level of offensive business strategy even for epic..
I mean it was annoying when they bribed over games from steam before release - but now they even buy developer to simply take off a game from competing market..
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+1. This is an open proclamation of a war, if we didn't have one before. Hard times for PC indeed.
Or good times if Valve finally releases L4D4.
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I'm happy I've never installed Epic or played Fortnite. Definitely wont touch a single thing from them in the future.
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I can see why epic bought it. I don't see the reasoning behind making it Epic-Exclusive, which has a chance to probably alienate a large percent of the players who would have to repurchase it on Epic before buying new DLC (if any new DLC come out, that is).
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I think it's possible that future DLC may be available through the ingame shop instead. I don't believe that Psyonix would make DLC exclusive to the Epic store... What really bothers me is that the Steam workshop was a really nice addition to the game, I hope that there's going to be an ingame alternative or something like that.
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It will not be Epic exclusive, since it will be available on PS4, Xbone and Switch, like all other games that Epic bought.
It is just move against Steam and its users.
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As far as PC goes, nobody cares about other platforms because you actually need to buy the machines for that, while Epic is just a download. As far as people who only own/play on PC care, if it is only available in the Epic Store on PC, it is an Epic exclusive.
And not even a timed exclusivity.
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well as long as i'm conserned , epic has no intention in leveling up and improving to match steam's platform level cause if they do they won't be able to sustain any profit with their current limited revenue share split . if they succeed then the pc gaming as a whole will change from having an open market and a platforme level of service quality to a closed market controlled by one service provider across the board and the whole gaming experience on pc will be limited to purchasing the game and downloading it through a launcher with no extra features to get people excited to abandon piracy since both legit games and pirated ones will be offering the same exact service , heck pirated versions of the games will be much better wityh no drm , so yeah the babies that keep supporting this and saying it's just another launcher will bring the end to a good era of pc gaming that valve spent years to establish and improve
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"Epic exclusivity" always refers to PC, since taking consoles in mind it falls apart (Metro Exodus for example).
Not that PC-wise it doesn't fall appart either with people saying Epic Exclusive for all that are just not on Steam, like Outer Worlds, conviently ommitting it's also coming to the Windows store.
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braindead shills and shallow contrarians incoming in 3...2...
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They have less contrarians on the EGS Forums... wait...
Well, once they have it, they'll have less of them... since they've most likely had their account hijacked for the 4th time that month.
Though, it's fine since consumers gain something... wait, the prices are higher in poorer countries due to their payment methods... fuck..
No worries, we still have exclusives... you know, healthy competition!
Also, we have a CEO that shittalks customers and publicly makes ultimatums to its competitor.
I mean, if breaking EU laws, having shit security, suspicious ties to totalitarian governments, PR nightmares, lack of features, payment issues and other shit is shallow, then what the fuck isn't?
It's frustrating at this point.
I'd love competition. I hoped Epic could provide it. Fact is they haven't yet. They've been anti-consumer and there are people still supporting them. It's ironic too, since you call people like me contrarians, yet here you are, arguing against illegal practices and anti-consumer behavior (not to mention unethical workplaces and shit, but who cares, amirite!)
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No I meant those EGS supporters are coming. You replied to my post above where I lament supporting Psyonix up till now so I don't get how you think I'm supporting EGS.
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Ah, my bad. I thought you meant it the other way around.
Egg on my face.
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They have already said they won't have any EGS forums. People can just go reddit...
I was one of the ones that thought EGS would be good for competition. Shoot me, please.
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They have already said they won't have any EGS forums.
Right, so they won't even try and compete with this feature... fair enough.
People can just go reddit...
Lmao, now this is epic! :D
I love people looking for tech support and gameplay information from Reddit. It's always worked out. No problems there. It's totally built for that as well. Nothing can go wrong. Everyone will be satisfied. No doubts. 100% guaranteed.
I was one of the ones that thought EGS would be good for competition. Shoot me, please.
So did I. I'm guessing there's a reason you used the past tense there. Competition is good. EGS isn't competitive.
Why would I proverbially shoot you? It's fine to have altering opinions. The frustration part in my comment was about the excuses and reasoning itself. If there are legit reasons, then I'm down to hear them. It's just that the most popular supporting arguments have already been debunked in multiple ways.
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I had to go to check
r/Fortnight
Fortnite is a new action building game from Epic Games. You and your friends will lead a group of Heroes to reclaim and rebuild a homeland that has been left empty by mysterious darkness only known as "the Storm"
Seriously........
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For starters, due to the hot water tencent is in with China, EGS isn't available there. The store itself is pretty badly designed, there is no regional pricing and there is no sales of any kind. Let's also remind ourselves that Epic is trying to make this all about the 12/88 profit margin with dev split, even tho its not true. Epic is trying too hard to seem like they are competing against steam when all they do is bribe devs/publishers to bring games over and cannot truly afford the whole 88/12% revenue split when fortnite finally falls out of popularity
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I don't like it because it is buggy and lacks basic features like reviews or even any community features.
I wish it was better because Valve could use some competition but Epic really needs to stop trying to milk 13 year olds in Fortnite and focus more on actual customer service if they want to play the long game.
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Here's my reasoning (copy pasted from another comment I made)
What I don't like about it is, Epic is rushing things way too much. They should have fleshed it out to compete closer to steam's level, like come on they could have at least waited until next year to finish their crossplatform API (friends, matchmaking, achievements, inventories etc currently scheduled for Q3 2019) up so they can compete with steam's matchmaking but nahh they launch a year too early with a half assed store that's hard to browse and has literally nothing to help consumers (the dev community has been complaining about the launcher which has existed since 2015 and it has hardly gotten any change other than a bit of UI redesign)
And let's not talk about exclusivity deals.. I would have absolutely no problem if developers decided "hey we'll sell only on this store", I mean a lot of devs do that with Steam already, but if you're gonna advertise a launch on Steam or other stores for a long time and suddenly decide to be a timed exclusive on Epic.. well no thank you I'll just wait or not play your game at all.
There's also the stuff some others have mentioned like it breaking some EU laws, Epic having a history with weak account protection (some time ago they had a big leak of accounts, lots of people got theirs stolen and some even had payment methods linked and used for fortnite purchases on their own accounts). I believe they've gotten the security up in recent times but still wouldn't say it's enough and I count that towards my first point of the store being rushed and released early, pretty much everything about it is half-assed at the moment. As for the EU laws, I haven't seen much of that other than a few GDPR things like certain checkboxes being checked by default (saving payment details) and I'm seeing a lot of other reputable places doing the same. The post that blew up some time ago about them being a spyware had so many wrong things with it, the only real problem was the fact that they accessed the steam files with info about the account when they shouldn't, everything else was normal stuff that even steam does or things that were happening because of the tools the poster used (while also mentioning like 20 times that he's an amateur at that)
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I've been wanting to play it for years, but the base game never had a deep discount despite the obscene amounts of DLC they could make money on. ugh.
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Yup, now I don't want it anymore, but I have tears in my eyes and my heart feels small
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Can you all stop posting about Epic news, I never like reading it :(
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Gotta have a new subcategory dedicated to EGShit to easily filter them out of general topics. I agree.
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Thats a new level of pettiness, retroactively pulling a game which has been on Steam for 4+ years.
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Wonder if in a few months they'll start charging a royalty for all Unreal Engine games sold on steam
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They already do. Part of the Epic Store deal is that they waive their engine fee as well and give that money back to the developer.
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"retroactively" doesn't really fit here. That would be more like something you'd say if they moved all existing Steam-linked Rocket League accounts to epic.
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so um... Will I still be able to run it through Steam, or will they make me install another launcher like Uplay?
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You will be able to run it. If they will somehow add their launcher as requirement (like Uplay), isn't clear yet.
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I believe you will be able to play it for a time. Then the epic store one gets a patch which first make you unable to play with steam players, then they leave the steam version to rot.
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That's some tinfoil hat theory there.
For a game known for it's cross-compatibility, sure, makes sense to wreck that. It's the only logical way... :facepalm:
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No, this is some tinfoil hat theory.
Patching out the competition is obviously something Sweeney's given some thought to. At the very least, he'll find some way to milk Steam players for their money.
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Yeah, that's... pretty out there.
You mean by selling skins and stuff the game already does? Of course it'll continue to do that. And as I said in another post, patching out Steam users would be contradicting the goal of getting people to use EGS since nobody goes "Hey, Rocket League sucks now, wanna play with me, buy it here" over "Rocket League is awesome, come play with me, you can buy it there".
But most people here seem to really think breaking Steams side, or forcing people to rebuy on EGS is the goal. And I can't possibly understand what makes anyone go to that conclusion but the fearmongering around Epic going about.
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patching out Steam users would be contradicting the goal of getting people to use EGS
No it absolutely wouldn't, particularly if the game is made F2P, as I suspect it soon will be.
(Making the game F2P would be the only way to make sense of this purchase).
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If you buy out a company my first thought isn't "to make their game F2P"! Usually it's to secure future products.
But I don't know if they are even working on something, and they make Fortnite bucks aplenty with F2P (As does Valve with TF2 and DOTA2), so maybe it's actually a posibility. Nobody would say no to a fat cashcow I suppose.
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I've been reading through the comments and thinking just this. Thanks for voicing it, Even if the game goes to Epic, Steam owners can still launch it. All good for me. Most people who are going to buy it already have it. Epic will have to give it away or deep discount it to sell it. And as for patching steam out.. that'd make good business sense... they would lose one of the largest chunks of the game population and the money they spend on DLC & Loot boxes. I, for one, would not buy it again... Great game, play every night but I would just move on to something else.
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I get why Epic wants to buy them. Or better said, why they want to buy the RL IP. But I have no fucking idea why a developer as successful as Psyonix felt their best option would be to be acquired. Getting their game on mobile can't be worth losing independence.
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why a developer as successful as Psyonix felt their best option would be to be acquired.
Simple answer:
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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I can see a point. As developer if I felt that I was done with profitable online game and preferred to try new things. Selling entire studio, which doesn't have anything else really on their name makes sense. I get pile of cash to retire on or use on fresh start on new projects. And Epic is likely paying over the normal valuation...
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That makes sense actually - Devs dont have to worry about the game going under anymore.. As much as a spit in a face of fan base it is, it actually seems a decent move from their side..
I doubt they care anymore if epic succeeds or not.. Or they could just rush in at the end and be the heroes who bring the RL back if things dont go well at epic :D
But on a serious note - A company I interned at once was one of the biggest financial and managemental assist system devs in my country. Some Norwegian company came in with quit a sum of money and offered to buy it. He (the owner) just gave away a company he created and nursed through decades. He has the money - what else does a person need after years of hard work
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RL is still profitable. They can't guarantee future success. Sell at potentially the highest point achievable for them alone.
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gdi, I just finally got around to breaking it out of my backlog a few months ago and decided to buy the season pass.
Ugh.
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Instead of buying exclusives now..
they additionally start buying companies with a high "current user playing" - stance with their games on Steam.
Shut off the Market there and make it an exclusive title on their platform to lure new interested gamers onto their crippled store?
Well hell yeah thats going to be fucked up..
Which games next? And why are still so many gamers fine with that?
Those who support this must be fanbois of the new Sonic Movie too
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Instead of buying exclusives now..
"Tim, they're still hatin' on store exclusives of 3rd party devs/publishers." - "Well, let's do it the EA way then."
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they have worked for years with psyonix, i dont think this means now that they will be buying companies now.
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Bet on it mate, if that makes money, brings in users, and also cripple another gamestorefront, why should they not?
Also, ALL COMPANIES using Unreal Engine, somehow work with em mate...
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And why are still so many gamers fine with that?
Who, exactly?
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Epic exclusives and poaching unreleased games can be tolerated to some extent, but dividing and destroying a preexisting multiplayer game and community is a whole new level bullshit. I had already decided to never purchase anything on the Epic store and this shows me I made the right decision.
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Allegedly, support will continue for Steam owners even after it crosses over to the Epic store. How that'll affect accounts, crossplay, etc., I have no idea.
This one kind of felt inevitable, and given that RL uses its own inventory management system rather than integrating with Steam's, it's not too big a move. Psyonix already has its own forums for Rocket League and it's large enough already to transcend the need for the review system, so all Epic really needs to do is add achievements and better communication support to their platform. As long as it's mostly a hands-off approach to the game, I can live with it, but if I'm forced to migrate platforms I'll pass.
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Yes, if you have Linux mates who want to play RL in future, you need to acquire some keys for steam now.
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Bye bye favorite game, it was nice while it lasted. This hits too close to home for me, it's the only online game I've ever put hundreds of hours into. Now I'm no longer neutral towards the epic store, I want it to fail and languish and drag epic games along with it.
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Same here, I'm not a multiplayer gamer... except for Rocket League.
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Multiplaters games are profitable but have more chance to be killed. On single user you can continue to play after the end of devellopement or the cut of servers.
For exemple, on gran turismo 5 you have a single user campain very long. But on gran turismo 6 you have a smaller single user campain but more event on multiplayer. Now they cut servers on gt6. Only gt5 in really still playable with enjoyement.
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Yeah, no idea what that has to do with moving the main game to another store though.
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Epic not found anything else to buy up in April so they really needed to purchase a 4! years old game? Not sure it had any other reason just simply to annoy Valve and players because this probably will hit player base or the developers think: "I milked now all possible steam player I was able to reach, now time to milk Fortnite players"
Well, got it from a bundle, never played it, not my type of game but I believe for safety reasons ill stop buying any game which using the unreal engine and if noooo game left... well, I still can return to world of warcraft lololol or explore the real world:-)
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Getting a playerbase?
It's like saying "GOG Connect? What are they even doing? All the people got these games on Steam already!"
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If a 4 year old mp-game doesn't get a regular influx of new players, it would be dead.
Just ask PAYDAY2.
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Yep, and if the current player-base (on Steam) gets shafted by a possible EPIC shake-up due to exclusivity or what-not, it will likely die.
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I don't see a "must work for Epic" lock on this post:
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/ULPaT/epic-buys-rocket-league-dev-psyonix-will-stop-selling-the-game-on-steam-updated-with-new-info/search?page=2#I14kgBc
CG must have screwed up.
And no, I am just someone faceplaming whenever Epic is brought up again and outrage follows when nobody even understands what is going on, or throws outrageous doomday scenarios around and basically declare the PC dead over a launcher. Used to be the Console Peeps who said PC would die when their latest baby was released, only to see it become stronger. Good times.
All these outrage topics popping up on Steamgifts just bother me. So much anger and I have yet to really understand why. Since most of the issues are hogwash. Doesn't stop the hatemob.
But hey, if not hating Epic because it's the rage makes me an employee... kinda signals the issue.
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if not hating Epic because it's the rage makes me an employee
So you do work for EPIC. I don't know what your rage has to do with it though, because you're in the unenviable position where the company you're working for is growing in market share. You should be happy.
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https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=all%20the%20rage
Also i apparently need a raise then from my 0.00 hourly wage. Sure that's below the minimum. I wonder if I should sue.
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Yep you should. They have enough money to pay you something. Peanuts maybe.
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think you will be forced to install the epic launcher to start the game like in Ubisoft games , so this way they will sneak the epic launcher into hundreds of thousands, not if millions of gaming pcs and then they will realise it was never " just another launcher " problem . but they know that already Don't they ? epic greedy bastards
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I have it installed just to pickup the free games (which I never install)...& for some reason even that brings some concern.
If you get anything for free...you are the product. What is EGS really stealing / selling from our computers?
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i wouldn't be able to invite my friends , unluck achievement , share my game experience on the forums or even use the workshop Community mods without steam . even if the game is drm free i'd rather get steam working with it just for that so you see it's a matter of choice
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As you are forced, now, to start the steam launcher to play it ?
Oh man that explanations are partly very funny :-D
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No, I'm not one month late with the news.
Article link
Personally, I'm kinda puzzled about this. They were making steady money while on Steam and pulling 60k players regularly. I'm curious to see how the things will change once they're Epic exclusive.
UPDATE:
https://twitter.com/verge/status/1123712530227048450
"Update: While Epic’s original statement strongly hinted Rocket League would be pulled from Steam, the company now says it will announce "long-term plans" for the game in the future"
I do not understand the English language anymore.
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