What, do I have to kill myself to prove you're wrong?
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"It gets better" is saying "I'm making it look like I'm comforting you to make myself feel better about having to be subject to your depression".
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Well I’m saying it from experience though. I’ve had depression, and I won’t say I’m entirely perfectly fine now, but it really does get better cuz now it’s better than before. When you’re at your worse, at least know that there’s no where to go but up.
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I've been at rock bottom since I was 12. It doesn't get better, ever.
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There may be nowhere to go but up, but only if you can go up, which is impossible.
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Yeah I know that, but feelings don't care ;)
Thanks Lugum !
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I assumed, people generally don't go tell suicidal people to jump or cut themselves, but usually it does happen when someone commits suicide they don't even leave a note and people around them feel guilty, "should i have said this" or "should i have done that".
When people are in such a state, little that can be said to change their minds, i compare it with an alcohol or drug addiction, they also can only stop if they really want it, some people can fight their dark thoughts, some sadly can't.
My sister died years ago (sickness, not suicide), probably the last one spoken to her, but i went through the same what ifs.
Also ops would probably have corrected me otherwise.
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I never understood why threes so many people that society decides aren't worth living or helping, but if someone decides that for themselves then they're wrong and insane. Why do we insist on prolonging everyone's suffering and convince ourselves that it's "helping?"
Many see life as a gift, but you can't force a gift on someone, they're not always gonna like it. It's a curse to some. It sucks to lose a friend, but hopefully her turmoil is over now.
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We've rejected our nature a long time ago. Amd that nature would make us help kill off distressed humans. And a bunch of those people don't want to amd a bunch have gotten assisted suicide for it. Yes, not wanting life means something ia wrong, but not always thier mind. Life can be wrong too. You can be mentally healthy and still want death. You can make the descion that life isn't worth suffering in a sane state of mind.
I agree that people keep people alive for thier oem sake instead of the person who wants to die, but mist don't.
Not all of the people that society disregards that I was talking about are harmful to it.
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Hi, i think i understand your frustration. But i'm way not on the track of judging the reason or the act itself. I do understand that suicide IS an option. But I am ambivalent when this happens. I am struggling with depression as is my wife and a lot of our friends. I feel society is not a place to thrive and a lot of injustices are perpetrated against "Us". I feel that when someone commits suicide, We are loosing a great sensibility, that We are loosing a comrade in pain.
But yeah, we do make it about ourselves. My thread is more about awareness and care for the living...
It is a complicated business...
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Sorry. Suicidal ideation is something I deal with and I'm tired of people saying I should feel shame and guilt for not being happy with a life I didn't even choose or want to begin. I used your post to lash out a bit and I shouldn't have done that.
Is a freind suffering or dealing with thier lost worse? Either way they both suck. It would be better if we could all live without hurting so much, but that isn't possible for lots unfortunatly.
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Hang in there sister, you are not alone. I share your reflections ;)
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Because we know that depressed people see things as worse than they really are. For some, taking their own life may be the way to go (such as those who are deathly ill or with deteriorating minds), but for most people, in particular those who are depressed, we know that this is indeed a problem with their brains that can be fixed, and we want it to be fixed, because we want them to be happy. Ending up dead is a solution, it's just not a good solution.
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Man, I can't find words. Depression and suicide is such an awful topic.
I struggled some of my very young years with depression, because of Hypothyroidism.
Stay strong and may she rest in peace.
Also, thank you for your message to anyone who feels suicidal. It's very critical to talk to somebody about your feelings.
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I hope so too.
Take care of you and those around you.
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I'm very sorry for your loss. My condolences to you and to her family and friends.
As someone who has lived with these dark thoughts of depression and suicide on most days, for most of my life, I can definitely understand the temptation to make it all go away. But I urge anyone who is considering this to exhaust every possibility before doing that. Ask for help! Make changes in your life. Change your schedule, change your diet, change your friends, whatever you need to do. Do things that are difficult. Do things that make you uncomfortable. After all, what do you have to lose?
Know that depression is a disease and it's not your fault. There is nothing to be ashamed of. Please, talk to a doctor or counselor about it, or at least a trusted friend or family member, and try to be honest about everything. Professionals are there to help you, not judge you. It's not any more shameful than going to talk to your doctor about a sore back, or a broken bone... Also know that if you are not comfortable taking medication, you don't have to. Just tell them so they can recommend some non-medicinal therapies instead. Nobody can make you do anything you don't want to do.
Every day, everything we do is a choice. We can choose to sit at home and feel miserable, or we can choose to get up and try to do something about it. I eventually, after decades of misery, chose the latter option, and my life has improved tremendously. It's not about overnight change -- any small things you can do to expand your boundaries and to challenge yourself to fight against this disease should be seen as progress. It's only going to help!
I will probably always have a biological predisposition to depression and anxiety, but it does not define who I am and I'm aware that my brain tells me lies and is not giving me an accurate view of the world. As long as I can consciously be aware of my own thoughts, to recognize the situations in life that will trigger a depressive episode, and to recognize when my brain is fooling me into feeling worse than I really should, I'm able to stop it in its tracks and make better decisions. Sometimes it's something as simple as getting up and leaving the house, just taking a walk around my neighborhood or something. Clear my mind and breathe in some fresh air...
I'm certainly no "guru" and my life is most definitely a work in progress, and each person's life experience is different and I'm not trying to tell anyone how they should feel or what they should do. These are just the things I wish I could go back in time and tell myself when I was younger in order to prevent the decades of suffering. Nobody deserves to feel like that.
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Thanks for the support stlpaul.
Life is a chaotic paradox that, even on the better days, does not make sense. We are millions of different worlds trying to grasp to something that we have in common to make it a little bit bearable.
But i have the utmost faith that we can create the world we want to live in by acting with kindness and love.
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I am so sorry such a tragedy happened, I hope you and other people who knew her will move on and feel better.
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Thanks, I'm sure we will, but that doesn't make it easier ;)
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In Rome do like the romans. On SG gift steam games... I'm not sure I understand your thought process...
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I am sorry about your friend. I also know that feeling of guilt; it is an awful thing to feel indeed.
Good job on raising awareness.
Stay strong, mate.
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I wish that we would pass to the next stage though and create a more caring and inclusive society.
Thanks and take care.
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Thank you and to you and your family too !
I hope she does.
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I'm suffering from depression. My mood goes down once a month but it always goes up again no matter how bad my mood is.
So stay strong, think positive, listen to music, talk to your loved ones and EAT EAT EAT!!! (not suitable for ARFID). These always work on me, I think these should work on most of you.
There are so many cool things in this world. YT is always the best place to watch some cool shits. I like to watch some sick parkour tricks.
I bought an RGB keyboard recently and it warms my heart. I feel satisfied.
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It may seem weird, but little pleasures are indeed a way to overcome depression. You must find happy places where you can to replenish that energy !
Thanks a lot for sharing, stay strong and take care <3
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Thanks a lot for your support and your work toward awareness. I took the liberty of adding you, if you want OC.
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Oh no it's for a friend. Before I actually thought about it but then I realized I was too good to die. True story, no joke here.
Every day I would wake up and say I'm too good to even bother (or something similar). It helped in the long run.
But thanks anyways :)
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Yes thank you. The ceremony is tomorrow... We have a network of shared friends supporting each other out :)
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I was wondering how you got 5700000 number for Poland, and after some googling I found that 895700000 is a local hotline in Olsztyn. I think it would be better to list one (or both) of these nationwide numbers:
116111 - hotline for kids and adolescents
116123 - hotline for adults in emotional crisis
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Hey there, a friend of mine committed suicide this past week-end. She was struggling with depression for a long time. She was sad, unhappy, and could not see past it. She was 40 years young. It saddens me a lot because we always feel inadequate when this happens. We feel guilty.
I want to send her love and affection so that her soul may be at peace with the universe and that whatever happens after death will not be worse than what she felt on this earth.
If anyone reading this feels at the end of the road, please contact someone that makes you laugh or calm. Please contact a mental health professional through anonymous lines or whatever means that are at you disposal. It may feel that nothing else will change, but THIS IS NOT TRUE. You can get out of this.
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