Haha.. and the SG crowd goes full negative.. as always 😋
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Not a word about how much it will cost yet. I'm using Parsec sometimes, and mm.. well.. it's from 0.4$ per hour, so for me it definitely not for 60h+ games ><
edit: actually from 0.51$ with paperspace, and 0.77$ with amazon
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It seemed nice in mid beta, but was a bit choppy towards the end. It might be worth it if the price is right and there aren’t massive input delays.
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It's just Google flexing some technological muscles to impress their investors. There is no way ISP and data streaming rates will follow.
Besides, when Google is "providing a service" for free or with a small enough price tag, you should be checking your pocket because they are robbing you some other way.
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Like it or not, streaming play is a major part of the future for gaming.
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Nice... A guy opinion vs real data. It's ok for me. I enjoy my VR. Just try Beat Saber.
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I understand your point. It's obvious that VR is not the definitive game technology some want to sell, but it's really really fun. The main problem is the price of this devices (cheap ones are garbage)
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VR is absolutely the future of entertainment, and will be up until the day somebody invents a Star Trek holosuite. It just won't be widely adopted until some more technical advancements are made - the cost needs to come down more and the gear needs to be smaller and lighter. That will happen soon enough, and when it does mass VR adoption will be inevitable.
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It could makes sense when 5G is widely available.
Also press F for consoles...
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Heh I was just thinking that! I can't even get a decent download speed when I'm trying to stream video and eeeeeeveryone is just watching their tv via streaming so I can't imagine what it'll be like when people are trying to play massive games in 4K online.
And I'm in a big city.
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Break up Google and throw their executives in jail for subversion.
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thinking again about this, it would be awesome if it worked.🤔
if the price is good and people use streaming-gaming services, it could mean amd/nvidia would need to adjust their pricing to compete with them. why would i invest $400-2000 in a video card if i can pay $10-$30 each month? 🤷
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(i've been searching for "deluded face gif" for a few minutes, for you and your previous comment, but then, i've kinda closed the browser and thought "whatever")
imo, is not only about that.
reading Ars Technica (iirc), there's also the "share" thing/factor here, so YouTube, and a good, very good... let's say it, outstanding quality of video. the most interesting bit was that if your PC (or mobile phone) don't meets min. requirements for a 4K video, you'll still share that quality to your viewers...
might be wrong, and as this is Google, i might be very wrong, but still, again: ouch.
tchao mullyssima
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Multi-platform is great! Now, when you go to your fridge to get a sandwich, you keep playing CS:GO on your smart refrigerator.
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csgo is dying bruh and valve aren't ginving a shit about it :(
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For those of you with shitty internet... patience... the future is coming 😉
SpaceX's Starlink - is striving for global coverage in the Gigabit level.
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Starship Hopper testing might be starting tomorrow :)
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Yeah, this week hopefully Is what I read... tomorrow u say? Nice 😊 And Crew Dragon demo-1 was a success !
Interesting times 👍
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i"m very impressed by the google new project but it will be only online so when the player have internet issues he can't reach his game . lol when the ceo gave the resolution informations to the audience i start laughing thinking of sony and microsoft and there new consols that they can't reach that performance until now
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This is not for PC gamer enthusiasts, like many of us.
To me, this is an attempt to sell PC games or subscription of them to gamers or other people who dont have notable gaming hardware but do have a fast internet connection. If I had an older PC and couldn't afford to upgrade or buy a current gen console, I'd at least consider this new option. I respect this attempt, whether I respect Google or not.
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People who don't have gaming hardware or consoles are simply not interested in gaming.
It's not as there wasn't affordable hardware or consoles for casual gamers interested in any gaming already.
If they are hoping to sell this to Android gamers, well good luck with that, because games like ACO are just too complex and demand too much involvement for the Candy Crush crowd.
Besides, it's not an attempt to help little people (who can afford to be online at all times by the way so not exactly the poor and destitute in the world), it's just yet another an attempt to make money off data mining under the guise of entertainment.
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People who don't have gaming hardware or consoles are simply not interested in gaming.
It's not as there wasn't affordable hardware or consoles for casual gamers interested in any gaming already.
I wholeheartedly disagree - Cost of entry for Stadia would be either NOTHING at best if playing games with KB+M on an existing computer device (laptop or desktop) with Chrome, OR at worst a Chromecast 3rd gen ($35) plus a controller ($30-50) new for $65-85. That seems price competitive with current gen.
There's someone in between a gaming enthusiast and casual gamers who can benefit from this - It aint binary between the two. Let's also not reduce gamers with financial restrictions to casual gamers - That's on the verge of PC Master Race gatekeeping. I'm not saying Stadia is the best thing since sliced bread or that there's a huge market - I just get that there is SOME market out there, and it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
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I wholeheartedly disagree - Cost of entry for Stadia would be either NOTHING at best if playing games with KB+M on an existing computer device (laptop or desktop) with Chrome, OR at worst a Chromecast 3rd gen ($35) plus a controller ($30-50) new for $65-85. That seems price competitive with current gen.
Aren't you ignoring subscription fees in your calculation?
To me the whole thing just feels like Google is trying to sell me a new pair of sneakers for just 24 easy installments of just $15 insteal of paying $200 right now.
Also on a sidenote: How did best thing since sliced bread ever become an expression. Who would buy sliced bread? Don't you people have knifes at home?
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I tend to compare subscription fees to game cost or on-going cost, not "entry" cost, but I do recognize the argument that a subscription fee COULD be a pre-requisite to playing any games. However, that would seem to be speculation at this point since we do not have details about whether Google will provide an option to sell games individually and/or only provide a subscription service - Do we?
People who would buy sliced bread (like me) either suck at cutting certain types of bread or lack the knowledge or correct knife to ensure easy cutting of bread into even slices.
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You do have a point there. You explicitely mentioned the cost of entry while I was talking about the running costs.
whether Google will provide an option to sell games individually and/or only provide a subscription service
Another good point: I actually never considered a game streaming service could be ANYTHING BUT a subscription service. I'd be much more open to the idea of a game streaming service that let's you own games.
Fair enough ;) I'm always worried that the additional surface (without crust) would speed up oxidation and make it spoil faster.
But bread seems to be one of those things where consumption habits vary a lot: I was completely flabbergasted when I first saw on the Big Bang Theory that some Americans put their bread in the fridge and the fact that the humidity ruins the bread really REALLY fast is considered obscure and nerdy.
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In the US, some fridges even have humidity controlled sections which can help with leftover bread, if one chooses to refrigerate it. I wouldn't know because I live in the southern US which isn't known for under-consumption of food.
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Interesting. I guess that explains it.
My mother swears on freezing it completely and then defrosting it and making it nice and crunchy in the the oven but I'm not completely on board yet :D
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At least in the german region i am from the term the best invention since sliced bread (Die beste Erfindung seit geschnitten Brot) is used to just say that something is really convenient.
I was kind of surprised that a similiar term comes from an US resident
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Yeah, I'm austrian and we have that expression here as well. (although it's not an idiom you hear particularly often)
I was mostly curious about how it reached critical mass to coin a new idiom since for me personally the downsides of pre-sliced bread greatly outweigh the benefits.
But on the other hands two of my buddies are used to buying pre-diced onions when they cook so to each their own I guess :D
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Convenient products... every person has his own threshold. ;)
Maybe if we would know the origin of the phrase it would give the whole thing a better understanding.
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I'm certainly with you on that.
This is not for real enthusiasts who prefer to be in full control of everything hardware related, not to mention the missing ability to customize your games with mods and such.
Outsourcing hardware may work for more casual oriented players but not for real gaming freaks.
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back in 2016 doom was the first triple-a game released on Vulkan and because stadia is built on that same Vulkan API it didn't take us more than a few weeks to get our upcoming sequel doom eternal looking and playing great on stadia
Marty Stratton (at GDC)
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(might be) OT, still fun and gaming related:
Where on -Google- Earth is Carmen Sandiego
(runs on browser, needs a good connection, blog post, video)
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Probably not for third world countries or something
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I can't see this ever being usable in Australia thanks to our new obsolete National Fraudband Network.
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I guess the business decision made itself after they saw how everyone rushed to use GForce Cloud...didn't they? Did they? Did anyone? :-/
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Google is going to go the way of the Dodo if they keep going that way. They are too big and they are too arrogant.
They think they can drop in existing markets and just "do better" than an already well established competition and make money off data mining and advertising. They can't.
I expect this to be filed under D for Dodo, next to Google Glass, Google Cars, Google Wave and Google+
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I think.. I'll stay on Steam without delving deeper into this movie streaming thing xD
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We already have problems with control and power being taken away from consumers, modification and customization being locked down, competitive play being dumbed down, predatory "games as service" bollocks, obstructive ads and DRM, and historical preservation. This will all be even worse under a cloud streaming model.
This may work for the kind of people that made the Wii such a huge success, but I fail to see how core gaming audiences will like this, let alone enthusiasts. As a supplement to an existing service that's still focused on players running on self-owned hardware? Sure. As the sole option? Fuck no.
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Added a link in the description, The EU has fined Google €1.49 billion for “abusive practices in online advertising”
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Google unveils its gaming proposition to the world. More details here
No need for really expensive hardware, just good connection to the almighty and privacy wrecking cloud..
Edit:
Probably unrelated... The EU has fined Google €1.49 billion for “abusive practices in online advertising”. Read it here
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