Should threads close to prevent necroing?
The creator should close their thread(s) once it is no longer relevant.
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But not only do very few people do that, it's also often the case that the thread can stay relevant for an indeterminate time frame, such as when it debates something that happened. Placing that burden on the thread creator is unlikely to work in practice and might simply discourage people from creating threads, which is not a good effect at all and should be avoided.
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I was mainly referencing threads that are time sensitive (giveaways, game deals, events, etcetera). Most the time threads should stay open.
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Oh, damn, again already,,, Time sure flies...
Thanks! :D
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Happy Cake day, I hope ur not tired of saying thanks 😅
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What about those old bundle threads that people necro to inform that one of the games have been revoked? That's usually a good reason to necro a thread and one of the users responsible for a bunch of those bundle threads has been gone for years, not all necros are bad.
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If the user in question is the one I think it is, they have only had one thread resurface since 2021 and that was because someone didn't reveal their key from 2016 and then was somehow shocked to find it gone.
I'm more surprised there isn't a single thread reporting revoked keys; if there is one, I haven't seen it.
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I get your point, Necro bans are swift and merciless here without (that I know of) an outline of what necros wont get you banned.
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Are they though? I've never actively seen people regularly get banned for doing a necro. A warning should be more than adequate.
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I never understood the overreactions regarding necroing. It rarely happens.. but when it does, some folks go apeshit. I most often find the response waaay more harmful than the "horrendous crime".
I mean.. relax people.
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Yep. And this forum isn't the most active one out there, either. So, who cares, really.
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I never understood the overreactions
Lets start there with your minimization.
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+1
One or two threads reemerging shouldn't really bother anyone, considering the little activity the forum sees compared to previous years.
And sometimes there are legit reasons to necro.
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Kinda agree, like most of the times (even outside of steamgifts) it's people asking for example of the OP has resolved the issue that they had and didn't mark a solution, people thanking them for the solution, etc.
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Yeah, that could work. And then I guess people could submit tickets to reopen a thread if they have something to say?
Another idea along the same lines would be to "soft-close" the thread after a given time frame (which, in that case, could be smaller, such as six months). The thread is open and users are allowed to post if they really want to, but they are getting like five different warnings that they are necroing a thread and need to explicitly confirm twice that yes, they really do want to post in an old thread. I think that would cut off effectively all accidental necros (you'd have to be especially distracted, to say the least, to fail to notice all the bells and whistles), allow for the actually relevant necros, and the other cases, well, support can probably handle those.
On a related point, I've noticed that people who wouldn't ordinarily necro a thread often reply to necroed threads without realizing that the thread is a necro. As such, supposing SG did that "soft-close" thing I talked about, a necroed thread could be flagged as such everywhere in it (in the OP and in every reply) until it's active again (according to whatever criteria "active again" would consist of), so that people can actively avoid replying to it if it's not a relevant necro.
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Little question, i am curious about that :
For the giveaway, you have set the rule " Minimum ratio using number of gifts Sent/Won on Steamgifts: 2 ", This means that you must have send 100+ games if you have win 50 games, and pretty curious about that, because the giveaway is only level 3, but need a high ratio.
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It's set to prevent bots who stop making giveaways at specific levels and have a bunch of wins from entering. I didn't set it to real CV, I just like website contributors. The level set is because I generally don't have positive experiences (generally giveaway feedback issues) with people below lvl 3.
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I am, very known as, no bot and are far from the needed 2:1 ;o)
It's no problem for me but maybe show that you hit other ones too that you maybe hadn't on your radar when you set the rules.
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While it's unfortunate that users get caught up in the restrictions, it's working as intended and I'm happy with my entries.
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I personally prefer if people comment in existing threads if they are still relevant rather than creating new threads, even if the thread is many years old. I don't see the point in closing a thread unless there is a good reason to close it or if the person that created it just doesn't want to deal with users trying to talk to them about the discussion anymore.
I think a thread should live or die naturally. If there is new relevant information, why not continue the same thread? If nobody wants to talk about it anymore, people will stop commenting in the thread and it will go unnoticed.
There are dates on every thread and every comment, it's not hard to see how old a thread is when you open it. Just because someone may get confused and think an old thread is new is not a good reason to lock all old threads. This just causes unneeded fragmentation of information in a bunch of different threads.
If someone just decides to bump an old discussion for no reason other than to troll, yes, that is dumb, but I have always been confused why people complain when someone necros a thread with a relevant comment. I have always been pro necro.
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Automatically close threads from never to 3 years as an individual setting. Majority of voters in the poll do not want threads to close automatically while the other majority wish to see them close after 1 year of inactivity.
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This seems like a happy middle ground. I'm curious to see what the poll looks like in 3 weeks, if it will maintain this almost 50%-50% ratio between the two options.
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As others have said, necroing a thread for purposes of adding current, relevant information is good.
I am against people who do single giveaway or stupid question discussions, and then don't close them afterwards though.
But ye, I am against an automatic closure of any threads, even if only 1-5% of open discussions needing to remain open.
I'd be happy to be a mod just to go through and manually close all irrelevant threads older than a year old though XD
(maybe that would just help mine, and others' OCD)
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I think the best idea would be that if a discussion isn't been spoken in for some time, that if someone wants to respond, a banner shows 'this discussion is old, you sure you want to add anything to this?' or something like that so that if someone didn't realize it's a very old discussion, they would get notified and if they do have a good reason to respond, they still can?
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Here is a userscript that shows a warning when a user tries to respond to a discussion thread that was last edited more than 30 days ago.
// ==UserScript==
// @name SteamGifts - Discussions anti-necro
// @namespace https://www.steamgifts.com/user/ormax3
// @author ormax3
// @match https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/*
// @icon https://cdn.steamgifts.com/img/favicon.ico
// ==/UserScript==
function daysSince(ts) {
return Math.floor((Date.now() - ts) / 1000 / 3600 / 24);
}
let box = document.querySelector('textarea');
box.addEventListener('focus', function onfocus() {
let lastEdit = document.querySelector('.comment__actions span[data-timestamp]:last-child');
if (daysSince(lastEdit.dataset.timestamp * 1000) > 30) {
alert('Warning: you are responding to an old thread!');
}
box.removeEventListener('focus', onfocus);
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try the script above, it shows a friendly one-time warning message before you type your reply on an old thread
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Yeah, see it happen enough that people respond, others complain it's necro'd and the person is like 'whoops, didn't notice' so yeah then a warning could help a lot, if someone doesn't care and just does it, well, not much you can do about those anyway since we have multiple discussions that are inactive until a new update arrives so if these are closed on its own, it's sad!
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Some of my threads are for the scripts I've made. I would like people to be able report to me bugs whenever they find one, without me constantly monitoring and bumping the threads just to avoid them being closed.
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So you would take the eternally open discussions and doom them to closure!
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F. O. R. E. V. E. R!!!!!
Or just until they get re-opened again. I really like the ideas above where it's just a account setting to close topics after a year and an option to keep them open until the sun burns out.
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I would say - never because it is it's creator responsibility/choice.
But also idk - 1 year from last bump if creator is inactive/suspended.
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I chose never, because I know of several threads which I loved seeing bumped with new content. Though I'd be fine with a thread auto-closing after 1 year of total inactivity.
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Request is to prevent necroing, or accidental incidents. If the thread is closed it will have the option of being re-opened by the thread creator, as it does now.
Obligatory giveaway: https://www.sgtools.info/giveaways/f0c924e5-b8e9-4545-8e56-874135c0f128
Game is naturally Level 3+ restricted
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