Well here is the gist:

-I won a game

-Received and activated gift

-Gifter got suspended (likely for gifting the type of game which i received, not an exploited key though)

-Reported the whole thing to Steam in order to be safe (remember the fraudulent gifts section in the terms of steam?)

-Steam requests confirmation about the acquisition of the key

-Tried to make screenshots of the giveaway and me as winner but the giveaway was deleted (so my suspicions were correct :-/)

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Well the whole thing is a mess :-/
the deletion of the giveaway robs me of a way to show i won the key. Now i have no way to prove I am not the exploiter myself.

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Edit: this caused me so much trouble and time already that I wished i had not won the giveaway, oh wells lets see how it works out

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I had also one giveaway gone missing... Hope nothing too bad is involved...

12 years ago
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which game was it with you?

12 years ago
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A virus named Tom... IGN Prime probably should start checking how many giveaways there is for the game...

12 years ago
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what game was it? :o

12 years ago
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It was a virus named tom. Could have been any other game though. (it was not on the exploited keys list, so i thought it was ok)

12 years ago
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I think those should go soon under exploited keys... among others u.u

12 years ago
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yeah keeping the exploited keys list up to date is pretty important. I thought it was safe by checking if the game was on the list. Turns out the latency for exploits to get unto that list is too high.

12 years ago
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A Virus Named Tom keys shouldn't cause any problems as the keys themselves are legit, just acquired by exploiting poor web coding. It should only concern the gifter breaking Steamgifts' rules, but you wouldn't break any Steam rules by activating them, as the keys are officially issued. If it were A Valley Without Wind key, that might cause problems for you if you activated it. So yeah, you could've saved yourself the trouble, but you didn't know.

You can contact the gifter and ask them to send you a screenshot of an email in which they got that key if they still have it. This should work as the proof Valve is asking for. I don't think Valve cares about the actual giveaway you won it from.

12 years ago
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phew Luckily I didn't activate a A Valley Without Wind key :p

12 years ago
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Problem might be if the gifter had scammed an unlimited IGN Prime trial, or used a false credit card, etc.

An IGN Prime key would normally be ok. There is an annual fee of around $30 (from memory that figure included a discount) which buys you an indie game every month. These aren't freebies per se.

Sorry for your experience. Sounds like Steam have this very badly wrong :(

12 years ago
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Contact steamgift suport they may help you

12 years ago
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Oh I did, but the waiting time is quite long indeed :-/ (last ticket took 2.5 weeks) and I am kinda fearing they cannot retreive the info due to the deletion process.

12 years ago
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What was the game, just add a support member on steam and tell him Ur situation

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I do not think they would appreciate the unsolicited contact. After all they already warn people not even to use the 'urgent' tag on support tickets. Contacting them directly would be even more obnoxious.

12 years ago
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Yay, a steamgifts support member just contacted me :D Must have been skimming the forums and taken mercy on me ;-)

Thankies steamgifts :D

12 years ago
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I knew it, Im not being paranoid about keys!

12 years ago
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Lol, me too. Especially when I see giveaways for games that are very expensive.

12 years ago
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There is nothing wrong with keys per se. As long as you get a legit key, there's no concern on your part. Altough I'm curious about the deletion of the giveaway.

You're gonna have to wait for support to get back to you on why the giveaway got deleted.

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The reason for the deletion was that the key was exploited, fortunately the reason is shown on the deleted giveaway. (though it was not easy to locate it again, the gifter had a pretty weird almost 1337 looking name)

12 years ago
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Yeah well its not like it was totally unknown that these keys are exploited and therefor the giveaways will be deleted

12 years ago
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to me it was

12 years ago
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Well you brought this to yourself .

12 years ago
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when you mean 'i did the right thing' then you are right.

12 years ago
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Yeah I have to say that it sounds like he caused himself a lot of the stress.

12 years ago
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the other option would have been to stay silent and hope nothing wrong is ever detected about the key. Would have been quite valid too. It just did not feel right to stay silent about this. The whole timeline really suggested that this might be an actually exploited key.

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I'm a certain amount certain (let's say... 75%) that the keys are considered exploited in the sense that people were claiming more than they should rather than in the sense of the keys being illegitimate. If so, you're likely 100% a-ok. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong... I often am.

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aye i agree, the term exploited key in itself is weird. Should be "keys gained by an exploit". Whether that would be generating never issued keys, or exploiting some service in order to generate legitimate keys would not change that the key itself was acquired fraudulently.

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Yeah always take care of those AVWW and AVNT keys, they've been exploited for a while and now it's not safe to blindly accept and redeem those keys.

12 years ago
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thanks for the notice :D a little bit late for me, but i guess bringing these cases to public awareness helps people being cautious with these keys.

12 years ago
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If you see a significant increase in giveaways of the same game, check if there's a cheap bundle or ask on the forums if those are legit or exploited/generated.

Valve has a zero tolerance policy if it comes down to piracy. They don't care that you didn't know about those exploited keys. For Valve that's exactly same with "hey i got VAC banned, but it was my little brother" you know..

It is really sad, people are not just trying to raise the contributor value by submitting those illegal keys but also jeopardize other's accounts with that dick move.

Good luck anyway.

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I'm pretty sure in the case of A Virus Named Tom, the term "exploited key" means they're considered exploited here on Steam Gifts, not on Steam in general (unless something has happened recently that I'm unaware of - the last I heard about them being considered exploited here was people getting them free from IGN Prime and giving them away). There's nothing wrong with the key or activating it, it just shouldn't have been given away in the first place.

Not Steam's problem.

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I know that not every key for a game that is on the 'exploited keys list' is fraudulent.
But together with the amount of same games gifted the suspension and the subsequent deletion was quite enough to arouse sufficient suspicion

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As I stated, they were/are considered exploited here on Steam Gifts. The reason for that is the fact they can easily be obtained for free/in large numbers and therefore they're not supposed to be given away. They're suspending people and deleting the giveaways because of that, not because of something being wrong with the keys themselves.

It has nothing to do with Steam since there's nothing wrong with the keys themselves. The fact that they're considered exploited is a rule of Steam Gifts, not Steam.

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afaik the notion that keys go on the 'exploited' list just for having been available legally for free in large numbers is wrong.

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Personally I don't always agree with it - as you said, they were obtained legally and everything. The fact that they're free shouldn't automatically make them inelegible to be given away in my opinion. However, I'm not the one who chooses what does and doesn't count as exploited and yes, they do often put keys on the exploited list for being available for free in large numbers (Eets, World of Goo, and Puzzle Agent for example).

Although the FAQ says IGN Prime keys are allowed, a lot of people disagree and think they should be considered exploited for those same reasons (being available for free and in large numbers).

None of that is the point though. The point is Steam Gifts rules and politics aren't Steam's problem since there's not actually anything wrong with the keys themselves. Getting Steam support involved is pointless.

As I said before, maybe something I don't know about has happened recently with AVNT keys that's making them illegitimate. However, if that's not the case, everything I said still stands.

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It's all in what you mean by legally. Using legal sources? Yes. Using legal sources the proper way? No. That's basically the definition of 'exploit', as in using a system for personal gains in ways not intended by its creators.

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A giveaway I won also went missing, but that was because the creator sent no one their gifts and got banned...

12 years ago
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That's why you should always take screenshot if the key is sent by chat. I prefer to receive them by emails so there is a proof with date and time. I send all my keys via email too.

12 years ago
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yeah I learned that now, thought before though that the giveaway page itself would be proof enough in case controversies arise.

12 years ago
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+1

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Presumably the key was given via chat rather than through an email which could be forwarded, header info intact, to Steam?

It's a shame the Steam client doesn't have a txt file chat log like MSN etc, for situations like this :(

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It was even worse, the gifter posted the key as commect on my steam profile which triggered my ninja "Omg fast activate the gift before it is stole" instinct. Of course right after that my suspicions began... cause if he is this careless with keys he would have to have a way to gain more keys in case it got stolen before i can activate it.

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That has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Posting a key on a public profile is so stupid :/

12 years ago
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well not if he has a limitless supply of them, then it would not matter if it gets lost, he would just send another.

12 years ago
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The thing is, why you even contact Steam support if you already activated it. They won't ban you if they find you activated that key, the worst thing that could happen is to get the game deleted from your library, nothing more.

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Thanks for the supportive attitude ;-P

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there are several instances of people getting their accounts suspended for accepting fraudulent gifts (yeah not always keys, but also gifts :-/)

I would not want to login one day to see my account suspended. the stress that would follow then would be undoubtably higher than the one I have now. (unless steam support is really tyrannical and calls down the inquisition on me now)

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Nah, I don't think they are as tyrannical as you think. As long as you have proof of purchase of previous games, and in your case, screens of the key you won it should be all fine.

12 years ago
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Just don't take keys from anyone except the developers.

12 years ago
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So you're saying we shouldn't enter any giveaway that isn't a dev giveaway? That's just pointless lol.

12 years ago
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I got this same problem with a Trine key I won but I'm at step 3...

12 years ago
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good luck with that, do not know if it is better to report it or just let it be. There is a belief here in the forum that the worst that can happen is a chancelation of the game subscription by steam. When googling 'steam fraudulent gift' though it kinda suggests that people got their whole accounts suspended. Good luck in deciding, not an easy choice.

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I think I've got same problem with Trine. It has disapear from my win-list.
And I don't have remark it before I've seen this topic.... Trine was not a know game with key problem in FAQ ; And I remember it was part of a Humble Bundle (correct me if I'm wrong)
I don't know why we're not allow to view those "deleted" steamgifts; BTW, something like a warning about an eventual fraudulent gift should be cool, coz I don't go to my profile each day/week/month.

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if you remember who gifted it to you then you can visit their profile on steamgifts and then view the deleted giveaways. While the winners are not displayed at least a reason as to why the giveaway has been deleted will be shown.

12 years ago
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Thanks for the information. I will have a look on it.

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https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=5406-WFZC-5519

Makes a fun read.

"This includes using an unauthorized ("hacked") Steam client to access Steam, attempting to register fake CD Keys or attempting to register a CD Key which has been published on the internet."

Soo.... Don't try those ninja-keys around ;D

12 years ago
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where is the part about activating keys found on the nets?
(it would kind of fall in the do not accept gifts from strangers category, but i cannot find it mentioned explicitly.

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"attempting to register a CD Key which has been published on the internet."

12 years ago
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ahh yeah, missed it because it was in the piracy and hacking section. I wonder why it is in there. Thanks :D

12 years ago
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I don't know why they never rephrased this. According to this "rule" anyone who activated keys posted by AMD on their Twitter, or any key giveaways by the devs for that matter, should be banned. :P

12 years ago
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I reported "a valley without wind" like more then a week ago. It's still in my library....
I have the feeling they dont care

12 years ago
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if you have filed a ticket i bet they will answer at least something. Would be interested in what they say. (whether they demand proof of acquisition as well or whether it depends on the mods mood :)

12 years ago
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I asked to remove it, so hopefully they'll just remove it and reply me that it's gone.

12 years ago
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They certainly cannot deny removing it. Chancelling a subscription is a right of yours guaranteed by their own terms of services.

12 years ago
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Jups they removed the game from my account. So everything ends good ;-)

12 years ago
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I often refuse to take Cd-key gifts; Way too many horror stories. Same thing goes for Cd-key websites.

12 years ago
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Don't even enter for keys. I won't even risk it.

12 years ago
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I'll take this to heart i guess

12 years ago
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well. you have a point there... what a bout a new system where giveaways are not delted, but blocked/closed/taked out of the search filters? so in these cases people will have a proof of actual winning?

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