hm i really prefer using AMD with ATI graphics card and Intel with Nvidia ... anyways this shouldn't be bad
lol yeah , get mbo
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how does using AMD with ATI and Intel with Nvidia change anything?
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Like i've said ... i prefer. Probably not much , but i've seen some pc's having problems working with eachother
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How does it make a difference, in the end each individual PC part still does the same job, i would say specific models of CPU's and other hardware have a greater effect whether it be negative or positive on a rig.
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I believe the reason people seem to be concerned with the motherboard is that it's one of the most important parts of a computer, everything needs to be compatible. If you aren't careful with the motherboard/components you choose, you could get some big bummers when it comes to compatibility. Just make sure everything will work together. :)
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You need a motherboard and you need a better graphics card if you are going to be into games like Battlefield 3
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pre-bulldozers were pretty decent, they had good reputation for their cpu's through the years and mainly because they were usually more affordable but also because affordable didnt mean sacrifice performance which they held their own for many years.
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No need for 2133MHz memory and for a little bit more money you can get 8GB 1600MHz memory.
For PSU i recommend XFX 450W and MB GA-970A-UD3.
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I'd recommend Intel Core i3 2120 [103 euross] or Pentium G860 [74 euros]. Intel owns AMD also that AMD processor came out in 2009 very old. Plus I would not mix AMD CPU with nVIDIA GPU. If your going with AMD CPU get an AMD card since AMD makes both they work better together. AMD 6870 is the card with the most bang for the buck for AMD. But if your using a AMD CPU you should definitely buy an AMD GPU. A processor with 2 core and 4 threads is enought for gaming on a budget link http://www.techspot.com/review/379-crysis-2-performance/page8.html
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If you are on a budget, I owuld suggest going with this:
This would give you better performance in the video card and chose a CPU with a better upgrade path. I choose a good budget case as well as a reliable and relatively cheap PSU that is fine for what you need.
Feel free to PM me on steam or w/e if you have questions. I'll be happy to answer any.
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For a power supply go with a corsair cx600,works nicely in my machine
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028
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I would recommend a different graphics card. The nvidia 560 Ti, is a card that can run almost all games and will run higher settings and probably last longer.
I would also recommend the phenom x6 instead or even upgrading to the bulldozer range:
These two processors are really good:
This is a amazing motherboard for the price:
Motherboard
EDIT: I would recommend this RAM : RAM
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dont get bulldozer Look up the scores on the cpus for gaming
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if you look at the reviews on amazon many people are happy with it and they are using it for gaming. Also these scores would of been taken when the CPU comes out, the scores where low because of the bulldozer software or something would not work with windows properly so updates where needed, but now it is all sorted out.
Source: Techradar and T3
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The "patch" gave it a 5-10% boost.
However if oyu look at Anantech Bench, 5-10% won't help it that much. Anandtech did a very indepth article of why Bulldozers performance is so bad.
Of course people are happy with it in nonprofessional reviews. They aren't benching it or comparing it to anything else. If they got a bottleneck, they can't tell simply because they don't have anything else to compare it to.
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stay away from the bulldozer.. an i5 3570k is plenty and obviously unlocked and usually can save some money w/ a mobo / intel cpu combo. best bang 4 the buck is evga Nvidia 670 ftw edition, out performs anythings in its price range and can go blow for blow w/ the 680 which is more money.. ASrock extreme mobo Z77 extreme 4 will do, 600/750 watts , ram depends if your going to overclock, if not just got w/ some kingston 1600mhz 8 gigs.
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also would suggest a 60 gig ssd for boot, plenty big for the os and wont bloat if you use it ONLY for the os. I can guve a place which matches anyones price including newegg.. Also make sure you keep bandwith in mind, if you more than likely going to upgrade in the future then get extra power now, this way it cost you once.. High current gamer by antec is solid, cool and priced fairly
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if you want any specs, benchmarks etc let me know.. Its always best to crunch everything b4 going into a store or ordering parts, EVGA has great customer support, precision x and breat ui.. The ASrock has 5x speed on everything, easy to navigate if you do decide to oc (so is the evga) and comes w/ virtual mvp plenty of slots, pce3 ready as well as the Nvidia 670 ftw. Case needs good circulation BUT it doesnt have to be a 300 dollar purchase (corsair) unless you got it to spend, just a case w/ ample room, plenty of circulation, most come w/ 3-4 fans pre-installed but sometimes they are not the best so picking up a a cmaster fan wont hurt, 8-10 bucks.
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since the tsunami, hard drives went thru the roof, may as well go seagate @ 7500 rpms. Barracudas are reliable. the optical drive is the least of your issues, you can cheat here unless you want blueray. I dont use wireless and if you dont either then thats not something you need if your always going to be hardwired. Soundcards are absoulutely useless in this day because a decent mobo will have 7.1 and The nvidia .. I just realized that you already had something already set up.. Sorry.
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i have almost the same computer :D dont cheap out on the mobo try to get a 70-100$ mobo
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I have just recently ordered my own parts.. Makes me sad you got so low budget, no offense. I highly recommend checking the pcpartpicker.com in where tr4656s list is from, for there you automatically see if parts are compatible. It helped me a LOT.
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Holy, this thread is filled with incorrect information.
As for the AMD+ATI benefit, that's only if you're using a good chipset (not the 760g) and if you had a lowpowered GPU which if you want to game, you most likely won't. As for Intel and nVidia there's absolutely nothing unlike some have stated.
Personally, you're shooting yourself in the leg by going AMD though, they flopped with their newest socket and Intel is running away again.
You'd be so much better off getting a H61 LGA1155 motherboard and an i3 2100 instead. It'd be real close in price, no performance loss and the huge benefit is the fact i3 2100 is one of the slowest CPUs on LGA115 (yet still as fast as the fastest on AM3) so you only have room to upgrade. Where as you'd have to buy a whole new motherboard and CPU to gain anything over the AMD setup.
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I looked at your list and made a modified version here.
My main changes were the ram, CPU/mobo, and the PSU.
The CPU change is because of a performance gain that can be seen by this Anantech comparison.
RAM is because G.Skill ram are low profile and 2x2GB runs better on Intel over 1 dimm. For the PSU, the XFX 450w will deliver ~as much power as the corsair CX500w on the 12v rail which is what you need. Also, the XFX uses a seasonic OEM which is more reliable than the CWT the Corsair uses.
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According to your part picker, get rid of the athlon, stick with the Phenom 955 if you're going AMD. Your mobo is a cheap barebones one with limited support, this one should suit you well. Also, if you're set on only 4gb of ram, get a kit of 2x2gb of ram so you benefit from dual channel instead of the 1 stick of 4gb that you have. And don't skimp on the mobo, and has 4 ram slots so you won't fill up the only ones you'd have with that first mobo you had with the 2x2gb kit. Other than that, looks solid.
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Ok... so a few weeks ago I made a thread asking for help. Well I've been looking around places and found this so far! What I need help with now is, first is it alright so far. Second, what power supply and case should I get to go with this. Also please try to hold back any stupid comments -.-" It's my first time even looking at this sort of stuff so... I'm no expert. Thank you in advance!
Edit Just for asking sake, which motherboard would you recommend?
Edit 2 Motherboard: ASUS M5A78L-M LX AMD 760G uATX Motherboard £35 (Really have not got a clue about motherboards so any help would be great.)
Ram: 4 GB PC17000 DDR3 2133 240 Pin Memory £30 --> changed 4 GB PC12800 DDR3 1600 240 Pin Memory £25
HDD: 500 GB SATA Hard Drive £35
Processor: Phenom II X4 955 Black Ed (3.2GHz) AM3 £80
Graphics card: Nvidia GeForce Fermi GTX 460 1GB DX11 £95
Optical Drive: 16x Dual Layer DVD+-R, RW SATA £15
total = £285
Edit 3 Ok.. so i've looked at all the posts and such and I've made this! Please tell me what you think!
http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/cBK4
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