I'm no smart PC guy but it probably isn't worth buying a pricey laptop at all.. would be better with a pricey rig. (and maybe a cheap laptop?)
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I'm using my first laptop with an SSD and it's been okay. But I would never advise buying an expensive laptop with an HDD. Laptop performance deteriorates pretty quickly from lugging it around, so after 18-24 months, it never really mattered how much you paid -- it was still a piece of shit.
If you MUST pay $2,000, try to get one slated for corporate use. Those are more pricey than the ones sold to consumers, but the build quality and components are better. Though may not have the components for gaming.
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i got a Toshiba satellite 6 years ago for $600 and it still pays off, got it because i take it everywhere and don't have room for a desktop, if you have room and you have enough capital you should invest into a self made one as you can upgrade when you want.
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I don't, sorry. I would, however, generally advise anyone to stay away from Acer ANYTHING. The people I know who have bought Acer products were consistently unhappy with them, as they had many problems. Asus seems to have good quality and great customer service, from what I've read. Toshiba used to be regarded as one of the best laptop manufacturers, but I don't think their stuff has historically been as slim and portable as competing products. Trade offs, trade off ...
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My impression is that MSI is lower end of the value chain, but I'm hoping someone with more expertise can confirm this for you. This impression is stems mainly from reading reviews on graphics cards.
I think MSI was always more of a graphics card player and has tried to move into other areas of computers and related components. During the netbook boom, I remember MSI tried to get into that, and their netbooks didn't garner positive reviews.
Historically, Asus (which makes the Google Nexus) and Acer were both contract manufacturers on a broader scale that eventually branched into their own branded products. Like Samsung.
If it's me, I trust Asus more than the other two Taiwanese brands, Acer and MSI. But I haven't read any reviews of laptops recently. Me, I'd get a mid-tier laptop that can handle some of the games with lower-to-mid range graphics requirements, but limit my true gaming requirements to my desktop PC. You'll find yourself paying a ridiculous premium for mediocre capabilities on a gaming laptop.
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Additional thought, since you mentioned developing games down below. Maybe hop onto the forums of indie game developers, who seem by reputation to be fairly responsive, and ask their views on what they look for in a good laptop for game development. Good luck!
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I got a 300 dollar laptop for my college studies, and a 1000 dollar gaming rig for games, and I haven't had any issues. My laptop's slowing down if I try to use it for games, but it's still fine for internet and word processing after four years.
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Then get a pricey laptop, show the proof of receipt, then return it to the store.
Now get a cheaper one plus a desktop gaming rig and spend the rest in private giveaways to thank us for our great advices. :P
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but still 2000$ for studying ? what do you want to do, save microsoft word documents really fast? haha
if you want a really good laptop look at the latest generation dell or asus ultrabooks they have i7's and SSD's so are as fast as they can get when it comes to laptops.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3tZT83MKKI
http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/Superior_Mobility/ASUS_Transformer_Book_TX300
Id get that. Its an ultrabook with i7. ultra slim 1920x1080 full hd ips screen and m-sata ssd and also its a tablet rolled into one.
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Yup, Dell 17R Inspiron SE here.
$1000 laptop, has core i7, SSD, 2GB Geforce 650M, 8GB Ram.
Does everything I need it to, and is portable - can't go wrong.
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There is nothing that you can buy that is going to guarantee you its going to last for 1-5 years. Technology changes too fast :X
Edit: But i do own a asus g74, and i love it :D.
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17.3" is way too large to be lugging around between classes imo. I would get a smaller and cheaper laptop. I assume you're not using it for gaming anyways, considering you said you have a gaming desktop already.
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I currently have a 17". And I have to walk 20 minutes to classes each way. Not fun.
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$2000, Probably not, I guess, even though it's for studies, what are you studying? That can make the impact on whether or not it's worth the price tag, though, I would think anything from $500-$1000 would do just fine, including the 5 year mark.
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Well, the new gen I series comes out, what, this year? Just get something with 2nd Gen/3rd Gen, that way won't be that far behind, since you won't be upgrading anytime soon( I probably say 2nd Gen, I know the 3rd generates more heat, not sure if designed same way for mobile chip though)
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I don't think there will be something that's better than that in the next time available, buy it when you.
$2000 is very much for a university laptop.
BTW do you know about the Razer Edge?
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Get a desktop for home. You don't need anything powerful at school, and you don't need teachers accusing you of gaming instead of just typing. For 2000 you can make a desktop able to run anything and everything at max settings. On a laptop, that cash won't go half that far. You can get an excellent study laptop for under 200 used. Heck, you could even go Netbook if it's just for studies.
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There should be new Intel processors, Haswell series if I'm not mistaken, coming somewhen between Q1 and Q2 this year. From what I have read, they will have better power managment, so it might be worth the wait. New GPU's won't come for a while now, since n6 and a7 generations were published just last year.
Still, if you don't need a mobile gaming machine, I would suggest you to get just some office laptop and buy a solid desktop (for around 1000 bucks you will get a desktop that will last for 4-5 years, but if you would want same power hidden in laptop, you may even go over the 2000).
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A bleeding edge Intel processor is likely to take up the full 2000 by itself. Almost always the most powerful, but always the most expensive.
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for example with current 3570K + n660ti wrapped in some nice box, with 16 gigz rams a TB of space, you will pay around 800 bucks and you will be able to play for another 4 years on fullHD and when it gets too slow for you, there is nothing easier (apart from buying more powerful one) than overclocking the proc. and buying either second GPU or newer model on ebay.
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is there any new tech/processors/gpu announced in 6 months time
Basically, the number of transistors on a 1-inch diameter of silicon doubles every 18-24 number of months.
This has stayed pretty consistent for a long time. There's always going to be newer/better/faster CPUs and GPUs coming out all the time. That's why everything gets outdated so quickly. It applies very similarly to HDD capacity as well.
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It does. Since it's creation (and modification) Moore's Law has shown true. Every 2 years(ish) proccessor capacity doubles per area unit, and with that the current model proccessor you would be looking at now will have dropped in price, and halved in total available utility compared to that of what is on the market.
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Well, it's held true since the 1950's, but I guess it's up to you whether to believe it or not.
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Well, then there's no point in giving you our opinions >.<
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As jatan has said a 17.3" laptop is not the most optimal thing to be carrying around campus.
I suggest a 15.6" or smaller laptop that you can plug into a seperate larger monitor whilst using a wireless keyboard and mouse. (This is assuming you won't be bringing your gaming desktop with you to Uni)
Besides being lighter, having two screens when coding or doing artwork comes in real handy.
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If you are living away from home and don't mind either not gaming over the holidays or carting a desktop + monitor + keyboard + mouse home each holiday then get a desktop and something cheaper for studying... Chromebook / tablet / netbook, provided you don't need to run any specialist high-performance programs for your studying.
EDIT: Herp-a-derp. You've got a gaming desktop. Cut out the buy a gaming desktop part and ask yourself will you be able to get it to/from your accomodation if you want to play whilst at uni. If no, get something powerful, that one you suggested is a good build... But I'd recommend getting a cooling stand for it. The case looks very similar to mine and that gets warm (very) warm if I don't use a cooling stand and play games.
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"Is it wise to spend 2000$ now for a powerful laptop or wait?"
I would say its never wise to spend that much for a laptop, esp. for studying.
Even 2000$ for a desktop is pretty overkill.
1000$ for a desktop and you have a high-end pc that can play all current games on max settings in full hd.
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Don't you feel guilty in the slightest that you are essentially stealing from someone or some organization? Just because you can get an expensive laptop does not mean you should. If I where you, I would be a laptop slightly above the recommended specs your university has given (if they have given some at all) and let the parents/organization/group/person/whatever do something else with the money, something useful. And if you know the fund giver personally, maybe you can get something else out of it. I rather have a laptop twice in 5 years, for in 2 and a half years, you can have a laptop that is way better then any laptop now, and still pay less in the long run. I mean, if people just stopped paying the maximum in these instances, any organization would have way more money. Besides, for studies a 1000$ laptop would last beyond those 5 years, so why buy a more expensive one? Every dollar you add is getting less extra specs.
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If my insurance covers something I don't need and I still get it, then I am stealing from all the people who have an account at that company. This is the same. Just because you have a budget doesn't mean you should use it fully. And the OP clearly states he wants to use it for university and that he already owns a gaming desktop. In my opinion getting extras you don't need is stealing from the scholarship/whatever he gets. Besides, a lot of things aren't illegal but are still essentially stealing. This is why there are morals. Just because someone else does this does not mean you should be a dick and use up other peoples money for no good reason.
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Well, I got a G55VW recently and I have to say it's running everything smoothly so far. As far as I know the G75 series is slightly stronger. As far as games go that should keep you playing all games for at least a few years(not necessarily on max settings, but that's not really that important).
I have to warn you though, these stuff are HEAVY. I'd guess the 17" one is probably even heavier than mine. Not exactly something that can be carried with one arm around classes. :P
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If you want to get the best out of it, get yourself a cheap I3 notebook with a 15" screen, a nice bulky 1/2tb drive (or an SSD if you prefer speed) and spend the rest on a gaming desktop, gaming laptops are a waste if you ask me.
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Rather than telling you you should buy a desktop, I will answer the question directly as to what you state your needs are. Personally if I was looking for something for University, I would want something small with as much muscle as possible. Any computer you buy will last 5 years (not counting hardware failures), it just may not be as fast running programs, and realistically its games that push the hardware. My recommendation would be: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX43559
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There is nothing wrong with Windows 8. I switched from Windows 7 when you were able to get the free $25 coupon out of MS, only cost $15. And really in the big picture, it is Windows 7, but instead of a start button you have a start screen. Its different and takes like 15mins to get used to and has quite a few additional features of Windows 7 that are sweet. A perfect example - being able to pause a file copy or file move (and having accurate "time left" meters is a bonus).
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If someone else is buying it, then go for it. But if you want to be a bit more respectful of their cash, you don't need top of the line for studying and school work. You'll want something good for projects, but it won't have to be high end.
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In terms of laptops for university, you should make portability your top priority with enough muscle to perhaps run the simplest of games. You're not going to be playing Crysis in class I hope. Though I have seen someone play a FPS in class... don't think he learned a single thing that day...
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Assuming you have to use it or lose it on a single purchase, I'd obviously use it. But if it's technically your money to spend, there's just so many better places to put the money. Weight is very important imo if you're using it on the go. A standard laptop feels like a biology textbook in your backpack. Even a typical netbook will be relatively heavy.
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I mean, is there any new tech/processors/gpu announced in 6 months time that I should wait, or can I safely spend this now that I won't have any regrets on buying this
EDIT: I need it for 4 year studies and I got the money sponsored anyways so I'm thinking of getting the best out of it
EDIT 2: Tnx for all the feedback, I may have been grumpy earlier but I appreciate all your tips and comments.
I'm just gonna open this thread for 1-3 hours and then close it later
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