I'll keep this short(ish).
It seems that Greek athorities are pretty paranoid nowadays, seeing as they have jailed 2 of the developers of the Arma franchise for SPYING because they have taken pictures of a Greek island for the developent of Arma 3. More details here http://www.helpivanmartin.org/
Without some help they could be spending up to 20 years in prison, that would delay the game even longer than Gabe can.
Basically, it'd be a smart idea to sign this petition and hope that they see sense, right?

Right?

EDIT: Apologies for not being specific enough when referring to their picturing as just 'a Greek island' and not the military base on it. It's still pretty bull in my opinion, I'm just trying to spread the word.

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Facepalm. A prime example of old farts not understanding video games.

12 years ago
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omg, Greek athorities are they humans? I signed the petition.

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We all are..i think.

12 years ago
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The outline doesn't tell the whole story. They were arrested for taking pictures of a military base, not just the island... While I don't condone them being jailed, this is slightly bull.

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Facepalm. A prime example of people too stupid to understand taking pictures of military installations is banned worldwide . And no it doesn't matter that they are devs to the authorities .

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+1

try the same @ guantanamo or something. See what happens

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+1

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Thank you

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I agree. You don't have to know anything of military stuff, to realize that you can not take pics without permission.

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You have to be an idiot to not understand that

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+1

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Still makes me Rofl.

12 years ago
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What the hell? I Would sign the petiton, that thing doesn't make sense at all!
EDIT: Huh, so there was a millitary base? Well, it makes abit more sense, but it still sounds quite silly.

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from Bohemia Interactive's CEO:

"My colleagues and I were shocked when we found out about the detention of our co-workers and friends, Martin Pezlar and Ivan Buchta, on the Greek island of Lemnos. Everybody who knows them realizes that they’re not spies and certainly never intended to threaten Greek national security.

The guys visited the island as tourists. Their trip to Lemnos was personal, organized via travel agent, with the single goal of experiencing the place that had inspired the virtual environments of Arma 3, a computer game that they’ve been working on over the past two years.

Our company has never gathered or collected any restricted information, such as photos or blueprints of military installations of any nation, nor have we ever tasked anybody else to do it on our behalf. We always respect the law and we develop all of our products using publicly available materials only - Arma 3 is no exception.

According to media sources, the Greek ministry of National Defence actually examined our game, after local authorities raised this topic. They assured that the game is fine. Originally planned for release in autumn of this year, it is based upon a fictional future, set in 2035.

The whole incident is a terrible personal tragedy for Ivan, Martin and their families; I believe it to be no more than a deep misunderstanding, one which will be swiftly explained. I’m ready to support the guys and their families in these difficult times as much as I can."

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Yeah, fun fact, they weren't even collecting materials for the game :D

12 years ago
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Yeah because a petition will magically release them from jail. There are too many petitions nowadays...

12 years ago
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We should start a petition to ban petitioning!

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But make sure you don't sign it =p. Honestly this is something that will work itself out thanks to political pressure if nothing else. Also I don't think Greece can afford to jail anyone for 20 years!

On a serious note, I haven't read anywhere if they were on marked, private property when they took the pictures or not. I don't know if it makes a difference according to Greek law, but if no trespassing took place then that really takes a lot of wind out of the case.

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You only want to help them out of jail because otherwise the game will be delayed? Shame on you...

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Dude... that's like super old ? I think they got freed and they were actually shooting a video of themself in the car and they accidently got a Military Base in the clip. So yeah, old news and they got freed i think.

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Well,they deserve it...spying on a military base its forbidden and they should have known that....Thats it

12 years ago
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Didn't this already happen weeks ago?

12 years ago
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Old news. They deserve it. Who takes pictures of a military base? :/

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People who need reference to create a military game? Kind of naive of them to think they could do this without consequence though. In fact if they followed the proper channels they might have even been invited to take pictures of certain buildings up close and such. Live and learn I guess.

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dont think so, and besides they didnt even asked so stupid actions make LONG storys

12 years ago
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Live and learn, you developers.

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People are stupid...

Not Greek politicans, not greece statue, but developers and most creators of this petition for idiots, who give a fuck to a rules.
12 years ago
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Do that in america....

12 years ago
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Considering Greece is in the shit it is in right now, I'm surprised they had space in jail and the money to even send them there in the first place.

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The official statement reads:

·They visited Lemnos on their holiday as tourists.
·They did not enter any military area.
·They did not take any pictures of any military objects to be used in Arma

12 years ago
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Such a shame. They were only trying to get information for the next game only to be arrested because of a military base located on that island. Lolfail.

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I do believe this is pretty old news. (It appeared in my Steam news feed ages ago) but yes, this is very stupid on Greece's part. Shame on them.

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even tought i cant wait to play the game they deserved

12 years ago
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Wow, took me seven read throughs till I realized what you were trying to say.

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So if I made a cheap gaming company to create a few "war simulator" games and went to every country taking pictures of there military bases so I can map my game is silly for me to be arrested?

The military has top secret shit, some that the government isn't aware of lol, nobody has the right to take pictures without permission.

Note: Yes I know they took pics of only 1 base not every countries base, and yes I know they are a legit company, im just saying that if this was a "silly" reason to arrest them then every coutnry would do this to gain intel on each other and boom, WW3 lol

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I can assure you no one would want to commit war with Greece. Because if they win and take over Greece, it will just plunge their country into deeper recession for the next thousand or so years.

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Petitioning won't do shit

12 years ago
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Welp, I'll close this thing now, having discovered it's old news. Thank you for all your input.

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Closed 12 years ago by CelticBeast.