This is pretty much exactly, word for word, what I came here to say. +1
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In my experience Chinese people are fairly good at writing and reading English since it is taught throughout high school and university, but do to a lack of native speakers and general utility in daily life they have trouble with spoken English and understanding spoken English, especially with accents or colloquial terms. Writing and reading tends to be the focus of their English education as well. Their written English may be noticeably different, but usually not that bad, though a common issue is using "he" to refer to everyone since in spoken but not written Chinese he, she and it are all the same word. I would be a bit wary of identifying specific ethnicities or nationalities as scammers because it comes off a bit racist, and these scams are often perpetrated by what we would consider native English speakers. Also I wouldn't be surprised if general access to Steam from China was restricted because of government regulation of video games, the great firewall of China, censorship of political discussions (or places that they could potentially happen), protectionist policies towards Chinese tech companies, censorship of violence, sexuality, western values and the occult. The regular steam sore page is blocked anyways. They have access to blocked sites via VPNs but they are harder to get since the major ones are automatically blocked or ineffective, and technically illegal (though they don't usually crack down on people using them for regular usage like Facebook). I do know they have access to a version of Steam because they use it to access Dota 2. Also I know plenty of people who are Indian who have very good, if not accented English. If anything it would be Russians because of their heavy involvement in the CSGO and Dota 2 communities, and even then I wouldn't characterize scammers as usually being Russian unless there was solid evidence to support it.
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Oh. In my experience, Chinese or any east asian derivative language speakers are easily identifiable by their terrible use of articles simply because it doesn't exist in their language.
Reading english, sure, but writing is atrocious on the rules that don't have a set pattern like articles.
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I would take what I have said with a grain of salt since most of my understanding of it is anecdotal and most of the Chinese people I know speak serviceable English. With the writing there is some noticeable discrepancies as bad or a less than the scam text above. It seems closer to Google translate level english. I do wonder what percent of Steam scams and users overall are from different countries.
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Well that was a wall of text ...
Though i must say writing English is a lot hard then learning to speak so i have to disagree on having the most trouble learning the spoken version.
Example ...when you want to write something using the word....Their, There, and They're can be used in the wrong context if you do not know what each one means,though when speaking it will not matter.I still think they struggle doing both but you do not need to be fluent in English language to be understood when speaking it unless they are really rough at it.
https://www.oxford-royale.co.uk/articles/learning-english-hard.html
That link is just for examples of why it could be difficult to learn and so on.
That is one reason it is so easy to spot scammers or other wise because chances are even if they can speak English fluent as a second language writing it is on a different level and you can actually learn to speak a language without knowing how to read or write it but i am sure learning the basic would help a lot in learning to speak it.I know some Spanish words and know what they mean but some of them that i can say i have no idea how to spell them.
I admit though some scammers and spammers are getting quiet good at writing with only minor mistakes that most would over look if you do not pay attention.Really though any gambling site like that is always borderline a scam no matter how legit it may seem.You never know if whoever is running them if it really is random or they decide who wins and well i would rather burn my money then give it to any running gambling sites for cs-go trinkets.
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As someone who was among those who spent quite a few afternoons correcting basic grammar flaws in texts written by some of the best English-speakers in Shanghai, I can safely say that no, their English is beyond horrendous. They are similar to Indians: anyone who can actually speak English well has long left the country to work elsewhere.
It is not some SEA-specific things though, as people in Singapore can be almost perfect with their English. Not even related to the general low percentage of English-speakers (~5%) either, as Russia has similar or worse ratios, but Russian who can speak English well really speak it pretty damn well.
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You are very accurate by saying that, although I wouldn't necessarily use the term 'most' when referring to native speakers. In reality, it's closer to 'some'.
The point I was trying to make isn't that most people write in English correctly, but rather that it is easier to spot a scam just by looking at the quality of the writing, i.e. 'You was selected', 'was selected as one from 80 lucky person', etc.
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Nope, it is "most" for natives. English is easy to learn to the point where it can be used for everyday communication, especially in only vocal form, but the actual rules of written English are complex and numerous. One of the most commonly used rulesets that includes all the small nuances that should be used in written English is almost a 1000 pages thick. Since natives start with the disadvantage of living with many incorrect habits they learned during their lives, it is usually foreigners who can use all of these as close to being proper as possible. This is why, funny enough, technical documentation is often created by non-native speakers, even for companies who could easily afford local technical writers.
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There is also more obvious reason - technical documentation should be almost always understood by all non-native speakers, so it's much better to let non-native speaker write it in the first place, as native speaker might very often use words or sentences that are rather rare or simply less known. For instance, I consider my English to be pretty decent, but I still tend to forget a word here and there, or do a lookup if I spot some word I've never seen before. It's not common, but it happens, and it should not happen in any technical documentation.
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I am one of them i am not the best with grammar or punctuation's but i do good enough that what i am writing or in this case typing should be good enough to read and understand for the most part.
Some of it is because of not the best education from school i think i could do better if i read more but i have trouble with comprehension there for i do better visual but i have trouble remembering what i read so it makes reading very boring and frustrating at the same time.
Though really there so many ways to use the English language and different ways it is used in different countries that it would be a never ending debate of what is proper "English" and what is not.
I think though we can agree this scammer/spammer is pretty far from even being close to any English form of the language.
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Don't forget that scammers are usually targeting less intelligent people and by making mistakes like this they can weed out some of the people that wouldn't fall for it anyway
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In general, if a site really wants to give you some skins you won, they don't have to have you visiting their site, 'cause when entering a giveaway for skins/items (nearly) every site directly asks for your trade URL, so they don't need you clicking on a link in order to send some skins.
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"Good afternoon. I'm a bot."
Always stop reading after that and you'll be fine.
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And definitely don't use the referral code not really a code this is just a joke when you follow that link
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The domain name has been created yesterday. On Russian registrar and server. Impersonating an old dead raffle website.
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