I'm using ESGST for many years now, even on mobile devices.
I don't exactly know why I'm checking for white/blacklists; I guess, I'm just curious.
One thing gets me confused, though. What's the difference between:

  • None
  • Not Blacklisted
  • Unknown
  • Not found

It's probably explained in the questionmarks beneath, but they don't respond on my Tablet.

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2 months ago

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Why are you blacklisting someone?

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failed SGtools check, that ain't false positive
rude behavior/Username
Dislike topic/comment/discussion
Other (see comment below

I never Blacklisted someone. Never will. They have to personally offend me, be rude or something. I've met people that did it and still didn't get a blacklist from me.

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+1, I shall only blacklist someone once I completely clear my backlog.

Which, of course, will never happen.

Cheers!

2 months ago
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That's a good argument.

2 months ago
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i blacklist obvious bots. also, hi :)

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That's a good reason actually. Good point there. Hello aventurer! 🙋🏻‍♂️

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Seems there's a limit of 1000 users on the blacklist either way.
So, with hundreds of thousands of users on the site, you really got to pick the worst offenders either way.

Like 200 wins vs 2 giveaways created.

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I don't bother with people like that. I rather know they win and possibly play them than see them pirate the game. Sure, not all do that, but yeah. It doesn't bother me.

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Yes, the question marks explain those, but here goes in my own words:

what's important to remember is that there is no way to just check if someone black- or whitelisted you, it is done by looking at GAs the user made. To check if you are whitelisted there needs to be a "whitelist only" (or whitelist and groups you are not in) GA to check if you can look at it. To check if you are blacklisted there needs to be at least one GA that's public (or for a group you are in) that you can't join.

Depending on which of these are available in the sample size of GAs checked these different states can arise:

  • None: there is a public GA you can enter and a whitelist GA you can't enter, therefore it's confirmed neither is true
  • Not blacklisted: there is a public GA that you can enter but there isn't a whitelist GA to check if it's none or whitelist
  • Unknown: there are neither whitelist nor public GAs to check so nothing is known
  • Not found: You somehow told the script to check a user that can't be accessed, due to name change or something

As for reasons to blacklist, there are very few people on my blacklist... some of them are rule breakers (most of which ended up banned anyway), like... two... people that blacklisted me without telling me why (the second part is important, give a reason that sounds at least subjectively sensible and I can respect that), one or two people that actually managed to be such annoying trolls that they got to me, and a few people that are clearly bot users that just leveled their account years and years ago and haven't been active since.

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...i see caaaakes !!

2 months ago
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Happy cake day!

2 months ago
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I'm doing my best not to blacklist anyone. The onlycaategory I have to is fat trolls/drama queens

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I blacklist for being outstandingly ungenerous. Like people whose last giveaway was 6 years ago and was DIG fodder but they still login to enter giveaways. Exceptions made for people who play wins.

I went through every cart in the community train and not a single one was on my blacklist, so I judge my criteria acceptable.

Why do people blacklist me? I believe it's entirely discussion comments. I'd have fewer blacklistings if I had fewer opinions, but then what fun would life be?

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like Bydydyndi: doing my best to not to. (and even if you blacklist someone, nothing will really happen, actually. just look elsewhere, SG has plenty of other users and giveaways :P)

always used Whitelist and not Blacklist, also. curating that White list has always been my way to go, here around.

dunno if you were searching for this:

Whitelist/Blacklist checker
https://www.steamgifts.com/account/settings/profile?esgst=settings&id=wbc

  • Adds a button ( icons ) to the main page heading of any page that allows you to check which users in the page have whitelisted/blacklisted you.
    That information is retrieved by searching for whitelist giveaways in the user's profile page and checking if you can access them. If no whitelist giveaways are found, the feature searches for group + whitelist giveaways instead and checks if you can access them using the groups that you are a member of to determine whether you can access them for being a group member or for being in the user's whitelist.

  • There are many options that allow you to narrow down the check: you can select which users to check, check only if the user has blacklisted you (which is faster than checking if they have whitelisted you because it does not need to find a whitelist giveaway), how many pages to check, whether or not to check again users that were already checked and whether or not to skip users that the feature is taking too long to find whitelist giveaways from.

  • There are also options to return whitelists/blacklists, which means that if a user that has whitelisted/blacklisted you is found, they will be whitelisted/blacklisted back.

  • Adds a button ( icons ) to the page heading of this menu that allows you to view/update all of the users that have been checked.

  • Results are cached for 24 hours, so if you check the same user again within that timeframe, their status will not change, unless you check them with the option to clear the cache enabled.

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It's very weird I blacklist someone. They have to be really rude to me or someone else.

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I have no one on my blacklist and i intend to keep it that way. I cannot be bothered wasting my limited energy for a negative pursuit like this but each to their own.

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I’ve yet to blacklist anyone and I don’t think I will, unless their username is something like PuppyKicker9000 and all they do is gloat about how they kick puppies.

2 months ago
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i usually blacklist people who abuse the CV system, abuse group ratio/rules and massive leechers(something like 0,2 real CV and lower)

2 months ago
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I blacklist only level 5 or higher accounts, the 1000 BL spots aren't enough for them and by far not enough for lower leveled ones.

I put into my BL the people that multiaccount on sg or other places like Twitch streams, freebie sites etc. (we have here on sg people that use up to 77 accounts on each freebie site.... and i see this as absolute sick -to not be able to name them too!-).
The autojoiners (that are at least level 5, which are still A LOT).
The ones that exploit/abuse the cv system with a lot games that are listed as full value but were free, many copies of the $1 bundles, a lot of overpriced trash games etc..
People with stats like 1700 wins and 10 gifted.
The users that made GAs many years ago and enter since that time without to give something back.
And a tiny amount for beeing assholes.

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LVL 5 or higher? That would include me, and I must hope I'm not ❤️ 😉
I understand the rest, though. Lechers are a pain, that's difficult to get by. I thought, the most multi-accounts would be excluded with lvl 3+ already.
How can I recognise them? There is probably no clear way, so I might give up by trying 😅

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Yes, a lot of the multiaccounters on sg are low level ones, at least the big bot farms.
But it isn't soooo rare that level 6-8 accounts have 1-2 small alt accounts. Partly to push their "gifts send" number (without to really gift something), which is dumb but to each their own. Or they have 5 side accounts to always get 5 entries in invite only or WL GAs, without to spend money for the gifting because nothing will be send and activated (but nearly none see such cheating, and lesser report it when they spot it).
Off course their isn't "one rule to catch all of them", that would be too easy.
A lot of things need to be checked to be "nearly sure" but a few basic things are "(nearly the) same login times", "(nearly the) same badges and achievements/time of getting the badges and achievements), "(nearly the) same entered GAs at nearly the same time" and the side accounts are in nearly all cases easy detectable as "not main accounts" (idling, not many (paid) games, low steam level, low amount of friends and the main account is always (one of) the highest steam friend[s]). On top, mostly, unactivated wins of the small accounts or, partly, private profiles to hide traces (it give ways to check such profiles too, but not much know them, but it takes more time and make it more difficult).

Outside of sg are the most multiaccounters very easy to detect.
Have a open eye for the number of copies of freebies that someone make GAs for. If someone create, all the time, multiple copies for freebies (some think they are smart by creating only 1 copy GAs but over a few weeks they create in the end 20 GAs for the same freebie game... not soooo hard to spot), then you know he is a multiaccounter on freebie sites.
And in many cases this detail tell you something about the character of someone.
If someone cheat at, multiple, other places then i expect exactly the same behavior on sg and in many cases it is possible to find then shady stuff on sg too (but not in all cases enough evidences that it lead to suspensions).

Open https://www.steamgifts.com/archive and type their one of the freebies of the last week(s) or one of the games that were available in a shady twitch streamers shop.
As example, https://www.steamgifts.com/archive/search?q=astronarch . A freebie from fanatical where you need 1 account to get 1 copy.
So each one that give multiple copies is a multiaccounter there (if he hadn't a copy of the game before and give it then by coincidence exactly at the time when it is free [such coincidences nearly never happen on sg^^]).
If you spot one that gave multiple copies then check him for other freebies in his user profile (at the left side is a search field) and you spot very clearly how many accounts the people use to cheat on different sites. It's sick in many cases.

Ps.: No, you aren't on my BL :o)

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Crazy leeching and too many trash or adult games. I don't think its okay to leech so excessively as it happens on SG, says a lot about the person imo. Maybe that kind of thinking makes me a narcissistic idiot. But I feel the entitlement of leechers is ridiculous. Someone spent their hard earned money for the game you just +1! 😑

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