Something I seriously did not expect.

EDIT: Changed the article link to avoid the confusion caused by Rock Paper Scissors.

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Saw this. Indie Game: The Movie 2?

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Nope. Indie Game: The Movie DLC #2. That way you have to buy the base IGTM as well.

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The "devs" said on their steam forum that it is only that way on Steam, and that you can buy the stand alone version on their site, or so I remember.

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Yes, I believe that is correct. And people are still bitching about that too because some people have been clueless enough to buy the DLC on their site thinking it's a movie and not just lots of extras and commentary.

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Hmm.

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Tbh, I don't really understand what this means for them

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Best case scenario: It turns out it was Vivendi making them suck so much and now they can breathe on their own and recover. Not getting my hopes up, though.

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So what does this mean for games like call of duty? I read the article but I haven't really seen this kind of thing happen before.

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Will this affect Blizzard in any way?

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Its Activision Blizzard that bought the majority of shares. From what I read on IGN, they have a very nice economic background, of 3 billion dollars, after they bought back their shares. This means they will have the ability to move in what direction they please.

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waaaaat

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Now all they have to do is get rid of Kotick and I might take them seriously.

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I can't wait for the Humble World of Warcraft Bundle!

11 years ago
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Humble Activision Blizzard bundle...
D1-3, all CoDs, Starcraft... for just $6! :)

11 years ago
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BTA: StarCraft Ghosts prototype

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<3

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Not indie .

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Go on then, what are they?

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A Publisher.

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Independent, that's what they are and as far as I know, that's what indie stands for.

(and Indie publishers actually exist)

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The Public and some companies (Vivendi's 13%) still owns a stake of them.

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Oh wow, didn't know that. Most articles I've read so far have used the word indie so I assumed they were completely independent.

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+1

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Indie is short for independent. Now that they've free of Vivendi's control, they're independent company, who also act as a publisher for their own games. So yes, they're indie now, but not in the sense of the typical indie devs.

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+1

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Indie has a meaning beyond that to my understanding. In order for a company to qualify for the title indie, they typically need a small team of people or just one person project.

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They are still publicly traded. They are not indie.

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They aren't free, Vivendi still has around 10% of shares, so they can affect how next CoD will look.

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indie refers to developers not publishers , most publishers are self owned so calling them indie is pointless .

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I don't really get how this makes them "Indie". They're an independent company now, but they still have thousands of people working on the games, so they aren't independent games. Oh well, whatever direction Activision heads because of this, I hope it's a good one for both the company and its consumers

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It doesn't matter how many people you have working on the games, that has no bearing on if it's indie or not. It's whether or not you self-publish. However, as Activision is solely a publisher, not a developer (I think, I might be wrong), they wouldn't count as indie anyway.

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I like to go by the description in "Indie Game: The Movie", where it says an indie game is a game devloped by a small group of people or a single person. But yes, you are right in that they are a publisher.

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Well, to be frank, that's wrong, simply a dumbing down of the meaning to what most assume it is. It may be more commonly understood as a small project by starving artists, but, to take a recent example, Project Eternity raised four million dollars and is being developed a well-known studio with at least a hundred employees (presuming no layoffs other than the Stick of Truth one or additions to the team since they had 135 in 2008). However, as they are not only developing it but publishing it as well, that makes it an indie game and, for that one game at least, an indie studio. Whether or not they keep to that is another matter, but independent does not mean small group of people making shit in their own time like the Frontiers developer was pre-Kickstarter. We probably do need another name for that sort of studio to help differentiate, because "indie" is not what people think it is.

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Think of all the new CoDs we can get!!!

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Cards!

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If 8.2 billion is indie then most developers must be in a coma

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Hey we have this small corporation known as Valve. They rarely release any game, but they do have this small distribution platform. It only sells some seven tenths of digital copies on market... And they are called indie too sometimes ;D

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Valve releases atleast 1 game a year, so...

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They didn't in 2002... But yeah seems so. I'm suprised acctually...

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Indie is about more than just publishing yourself...

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The title is taken straight from an article headline. After searching for the exact definition of what "indie" is, I've only been more confused, everyone has a different answer. So I'll just take it as "independent", which I'm sure is how the article wanted it to be interpreted.

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There is no real exact definition.

And it's really messy sometimes I think. Some larger publishers have released and paid for indie games too? And they still class them as indie...

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Guys, Activison Blizzard isn't Activision themselves. They are a different branch. They made Diablo, WoW, some others.

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Activison-Blizzard don't make games. Activision makes games, and Blizzard makes games. They are both owned by Activision-Blizzard.

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I think there should be a certain limit to how many employees or money you can have before loosing the "indie" role. if you bring in as much as them and employ as many staff as them they should not be called "indie" they should be something else.

and plus as far as i see if the company owner does not code their own games they are not indie, i think indie should be kept for the little guys trying, not big companies trying to profit from it. big companies should be publishers, since its nearly all they end up doing, its rare they code their stuff these days.

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Don't kid yourself, everyone is trying to profit, big and small.

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That means they trust their new IP very much, they don't want to split money with Vivendi.I think this is all about Titan ...

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Yeah, and because Vivendi was having financial problems they were able to get most of the stock proportionally cheap.

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Paradox is also, per definition, indie. (not always, but they have I wouldn't consider them indie as I also stand by the "small team" thing, even if I well know that - indie=independent and that does not require a small team. Anyways, I don't like the look of this, how people would say "uuh, you play indie games? But so do I! I PLAY COD! HAHAHAHAH" - palmface

Paradox Interactive is the publisher
Paradox Development Studio is the developer... Uh, yeah.

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I should have just left the magic word "indie", out of this discussion entirely.

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It is rightfully there. People should learn that indie is not a genre, nor it is a business model. Indie is an indicative of a developer publishing their products themselves.

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Paradox is an independent publisher - Activison is not.

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Because why?

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Because Vivendi and other company's/people still own a stake of them.

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Owning a stake doesn't mean they have a say in any of its business. Besides any company that ever issued shares has people owning a stake of them.

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Yeah, and it means that Activision is not Independent. Paradox for example can do what they want and take every risks they want to, but Activision has to please its shareholders.

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Paradox issues shares and has shareholders. That was my point.

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Just as indie as me.

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Closed 11 years ago by Jonex.