Part I is here and covers off-topic subjects. I really should have kept that thread, which is more lighthearted, for my Cake Day, but it's too late for this now. So here's Part II. Most of the polls listed here are about SteamGifts, with a few exceptions that are not totally off topic. I'll sandwich the more controversial polls between less offensive ones to make things easier to consume ;-)

  • 57% don't know what Steam Desktop Authenticator is, and the majority of them (80%) do sell Steam Trading cards. Are you guys actually using your phones to approve market transactions, or are you waiting 2 weeks?
  • 68% of people have no issue idling a game that they won for cards, even if it's an expensive AAA game. 15% use Idle Master blacklist feature to avoid this, and a similar number never heard of Idle Master (which was later discontinued anyway).
  • 70% of people still activate bad games for the cards. Only 13% would give such keys away.
  • 47% of people tend to keep keys for meaningful giveaways, most of those who do this (72%) had a least one key/gift become ungiftable before they got to creating the GA.
  • 19% paid between $5 to $10 at least once for a single game to give on this site. 15% never bought a game specifically for a giveaway and only give leftover keys.

Ok, enough with the pleasantries...

  • 58% of users check if they pass the rules of SGTools giveaways of games they're not interested in, and then don't enter the GA. Which is normally perfectly acceptable, but isn't a good idea in this thread (I thought the text in bold is hard to miss, turns out I was wrong).
  • When faced with a winner who has 20 wins, 0 comments (i.e. a winner who never, not once, bothered to thank any GA creator), 29% of people would blacklist the winner, but more than twice as many users just move on
  • 73% think that a "polite & grateful user who never broke the rules but has a private profile and 30 times more wins than gibs" should not be blacklisted or whitelisted (at least not for these "achievements").
  • 59% never blacklisted anyone or were blacklisted for writing "Thanks" (or something similar) on a giveaway. Or at least that's what they think about not being blacklisted, because 13% actually do blacklist for this reason.
  • 66% think that serving a suspension for unactivated wins does not absolve users and is not acceptable, as it puts all burden on giveaway creators and Support to endlessly submit and then reject reroll requests.
  • Similarly, 63% think that people who don't activate their games and don't have the keys anymore (e.g. if they regifted them), should buy new keys (or trade for them) before getting any new giveaway keys
  • 66% would like SG to have automatic re-gifting detection.
  • If you entered a GA and was then blacklisted, most people (56%) believe you should still be allowed to win. I changed my mind on this and agree with them.
  • 73% think it's acceptable to give away Steam keys from Humble and play the DRM-free copy.

That wasn't so bad, was it?

  • 30% of users think the 1000 user limit for whitelists is too low. 47% think it's fine as it is.
  • 70% believed that when a giveaway they created is about to end with less than 5 entries, the best solution is to just let it end, lose the CV. Granted, posting it in the perpetual I-need-5-entries-for-a-giveaway thread wasn't an option when I created the poll. I'm pretty sure the results would have been different today.
  • 76% of people here want some kind of in-line image support in the forum (rather than have the images always appear collapsed at the bottom of the post). I was planning to write some screenshot-illustratd guides about a few things related to this site, and an illustrated post about coffee, but I shelved these ideas for now as they're just no fun to write or read without inline images.
  • When it comes to how polls work on this forum, the most popular enhancement (28%) people want to see is to allow voting for multiple options (checkboxes instead of radio buttons). Forbidding the use of "potato" is far less popular than I (or Dan Quayle) would have expected, at 14% of votes.
  • Only 7% of voters never want to search their own forum post. 44% need it sometimes, and 30% need it frequently. I needed it just a second ago.
  • 52% would not be interested in an option to include multiple games in a giveaway, letting the winner choose one. 38% would.
  • 59% would be interested in having an [x] I'm not a robot validation in GAs. 20% would prefer to help the bots get a fair chance.
  • 60% would like to see Steam's "Not Interested" tagging synched with SteamGifts hidden games list. 22% actually admit they would like to enter GAs for games their not interested in. Steam trading cards are probably responsible for this.
  • 75% would not be interested in an option to create special giveaways with keys that they're uncertain would work, where a successful activation granted the GA creator with half the CV, and an unsuccessful one does not get them a "Not Received" mark. 21% would like to have this option more than the alternative - letting the ninjas have the key.
  • 58% would like to have an option to limit giveaways only to people who have the game on their wishlist. Unfortunately this isn't possible even with SGTools.
  • 51% would be interested in a unified game client (like this mockup) that also works with Origin, Uplay and GOG, and 4% (including me) would actually be willing to pay for one.
  • 55% never hid or deleted a game from their Steam library.
  • 52% see a single giveaway in a train as a "Wagon". 23% voted for "Car". The rest were divided between "Carriage" and a "Station".

A poll is also included with this thread and is related to your experience with links in Part I of the thread (the one about Off Topic subjects). Please vote truthfully :-)

Enjoy!

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How did you use the links included in the previous thread ("Things I learned....Off-Topic subjects")?

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I didn't visit that thread yet. I saw Part II (this thread) first
I saw that thread, but didn't click any of the links
I clicked the links and most of them opened as old threads (which I accepted without looking further)
I clicked the links and most of them opened as giveaways (which I accepted without looking further)
I clicked the links and about half opened as threads, and half opened as giveaways (which I accepted without looking further)
I checked the source code and figured that each link is actually two links - a numrical string links to a thread, while "%" sign links to a giveaway
Dan Quayle told me the thread was boobi(e) trapped, so I got the hell out of Dodge

Interesting stuff here, nice work! :)

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Now, I have so many threads to procrastinate with... Interesting statistics!

8 years ago
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I'm still pissed because people don't love beer ç_ç

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Go to Australia and you won't have that problem around you. =D
(Of course, on the other hand, the giant, murderous, man-devouring flora and fauna may present new kind of problems…)

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Oktoberfest is closer xD

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Interesting to say the least.

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Great read!
bump

8 years ago
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Well, I often pass SGTools for gifts that I do not want (I do not enter the GA itself, of course), because there is often a whole train behind the portal.

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thanks for the polls and gibs, bump :3

8 years ago
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Bump!

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interesting, thanks for the insights :)

8 years ago
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Bump!

8 years ago
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I saw this thread first, don't recall ever seeing any of those threads before. It's a shame I haven't paid more attention, these results are fascinating.

"58% would like to have an option to limit giveaways only to people who have the game on their wishlist."

I'm surprised this number isn't higher! I've been hoping this would be possible for a really long time.

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For those (like me) who haven't had a chance to read all the posts in the two reflink-related threads created by steffke, and then couldn't find them anymore, here they are:

https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/Q2Ad1/just-some-ranting
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/IXtv7/since-everyone-is-fine-with-it

steffke, if for whatever reason you don't want me to link to these threads, let me know and I'll delete this post.

Posted here only because the OP promised controversy and didn't really deliver... :-)

8 years ago
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BUMP

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It took me a second to figure everything out, but I appreciate it! Thank you! Happy Cake Day! Thank you as well for the poll info. It was interesting to learn how people have responded.

8 years ago
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Someone giving away decent games? 0_0 this deserves a bump

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Bump

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I admit it... I'm a suspect of bumping threads for entering giveaways...

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Happy Cakeday Yirg!

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73% think it's acceptable to give away Steam keys from Humble and play the DRM-free copy.

I contacted Humble support about this, and they explicitly said this was okay.
On the other hand, they explicitly said that you can't trade Humble Gift links, unless it is for another Humble Gift.

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That's very interesting. I wonder what's the rationale in allowing this? In effect it means that two different people can legally play the game when only one actually purchased the license. I doubt the developers and publishers would be fine with this.

As for trades, did they say anything about trading keys from bundles for other keys?

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Yes, I was surprised about the DRM-free thing, and I've seen posts from SG support/mods/something about how wrong this is, but the fact is that Humble allows it and the belief is that the devs decide if a DRM-free copy is available...so they should be going into it with their eyes open.

You definitely can't trade keys...you can't even give them away (see their FAQ under "Can I sell or give away my keys?" You can only give away gifts...and can only trade them for other Humble gifts. I kept the email dialog I had with the support rep.

After I learned this, I removed all of the Humble games I have from my trade page...because I don't want to have to require (and enforce) Humble gifts only.

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Bumpity bump thanks yirg :)

8 years ago
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Wow, so many stats. Buying a game from Humble, giving away the Steam copy and keeping the DRM-Free one sounds a bit shady to me but at least it's better than just downloading the game?

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Nice statistics you got there. Have a BUMP

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bump :)

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Bamp

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