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not everyone like complex and deep strategy games, some just like to shoot brainlessly. noone forced to buy it, but the hidden games still might be awesome. I declined to buy only once because of the bad early unlock, then it had Wasteland 2 and i was literally crying:-)
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First stellaris is nothing like CK2 nor Heroes of M&M.
Second stellaris is "similar" to CIV in a sense it is a 4X game (Expand,explore,exterminate and exploit), the early game of stellaris is like CIV, where you explore the map and settle as much as you can.
The first major difference between Stellaris and CIV lies when the factions get landlocked. In CIV by that point you choose a victory condition and do everything to get it before others; in Stellaris you will look at the ethics of nearby factions which in turn will allow you to "know" how the AI thinks - a xenophobe empire will hate everyone which would make a prime target for you to attack as he will have a hard time getting allies; a federation builder empire will look into working with his neighbors by alliances, research agreement and by migration treaties ending as the central faction in a federation- By looking at the AI ethics you make the decision on how to expand, either by vassalizing smaller factions, waging war or joining a federation.
The second major difference is that stellaris is much more poised for roleplay. Do you want to be a xenophobe and a fanatic militarist so that you can purge all other alien races ? do you want to be materialist and have droids serve your population? (very small spoiler: if you make the droids sentient; interesting things may happen); Do you want to lead a massive federation? do you want to (try to) save the galaxy from an extra-galactic invader? All of these are possible in stellaris.
This is a bit off-topic but what's also pretty good about stellaris is the "DLC"; the game will have a shit ton of DLC which means free content update to the game every few months.
However i have to be fair, while i like the game it has 3 minor issues that i hope get resolved in the future:
1) being a pacifist is almost always a death sentence because the only sure way to expand your empire is by "war" (or being menacing enough that the AI asks to be your subject). This has been slightly addressed in the first big DLC (called utopia) which allows you to build "planets"
2) the start is way too much randomized. If you get 2 militaristic empires near you, The rest of the AI empires near you are not interested in alliance and the AI decides to focus on you, you probably need to restart
3) war is way way too simple, you "basically" join all your ships into a massive stack and charge at the enemy fleet and beat it; then slowly conquer each planet until the Ai surrenders.
I'm kinda simplifying the issues as the game is not so binary as i have written.
I hope this wall of text helps you decide if you like the game.
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If you could compare it to other space 4X like Endless Space or Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion, are they closer (or identical) to a CIV game or Stellaris or between the two?
From what you're saying it sounds more complex, especially the emphasis on considering how the factions behave, and how you can orient your faction (roleplay part).
I'm not a huge 4X player (~40 hours in CIV5 and Endless Legend each) but I do enjoy a few playthrough before I get slightly bored but the potential over-complexity is putting me off a bit. Thanks in advance for any potential answer :)
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Endless space but a little bit deeper though. its only complex if you don't want to learn how a game works. I won Ck2 4 yrs ago and fired it up a few times but always quit instantly due to the learning process. 2 maybe 3 years later i was at a friends house and he doesn't have a great pc so i was limited on what to play and decided to give ck2 another go. First playthrough was a disaster, doing everything wrong. But i started learning the mechanics and right now i can without doubt say its the best game i have in my library. Same with EU4 although that went easier, thanks to the knowledge i had procured from playing ck2. My point is: If you're looking for a fast game, in which you can jump in and know everything in a few hours, stellaris won't be the game for you(or any other grand strategy). But if you're willing to learn how the game works, what "secrets" there are available, then you will have a blast with it. This is exactly why we need demos though. Games like this should be tested before you buy it, as its really a niche.
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Stellaris is nothing like sins of a solar empire (which is an RTS).
Endless space is very similar to CIV but with more focus on war.
Stellaris is closer to CIV then endless space (because for stellaris war is not something cheap which means you won't have a fast pacing game once you get "landlocked")
You don't have to worry too much about the complexity because all factions start with 1 planet then slowly expand.
Think about it like this: once you discover the 2 or 3 factions around you you will probably learn their behavior before you enconter anyone else. Just so you know the behavior is shown in the diplomacy screen when you are talking with a faction, each faction can have at most 2 of 8 behaviors (called ethos in game). if their ethos matches yours they will want to be friends, if their are opposites they will have a rivalry with you. those are straightforward but the cool stuff happens is with those that are neutral, which may be persuaded to join you, persuaded to fight against you or they can be neutral and neither your or your rivals can persuade them to join.
What stellaris does real well is introducing the mechanics slowly because of that 1 planet start. At first all of your species will be united under your banner, as you colonize planets away from your capital the ethos of your population might change which means people might ask for better living conditions (if you are treating them badly), to change of policies (for example ask you to not bombard enemy planets to kingdom come, for alien spices to have the same rights as your main species) .
All that said you don't really need to "understand" the game, because most features can be automated by the AI using sectors (currently these sectors are not really as good as a player but in a large empire they work reasonably well
Most of the other strategy games have the "problem" that in mid-late game you are on a set course for a determined type of victory and the game is just boring work to tick the necessary check boxes to win, in stellaris it is there that the complexity starts to kick in so that you don't steamroll everything. A few examples: a revolt in your empire because of all the slaves you have, a few spiritualistic factions have united as a federation against your aggressive materialism, they seek to enlighten you (and remove the droid population that is boosting your mineral output)!, a signal from out of the galaxy is detected, what sort of faction can travel between galaxies? but more importantly is it friend or foe?
In a nutshell Stellaris is a slower game with more roleplay ability but its complexity isn't too far from CIV/endless space/endless legend, existing mostly in mid/late game.
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If you subscribe and pay now, you will buy a bunch of games (5-7), no one knows which games are. but they will give you them all the first Friday of the next month. They will unlock 1 for you right away (stellaris) while you wait for the rest.
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So you'd rather pay 10.80 for just Stellaris, and prop up a grubby company like G2A, than 11.00 (or 10.00 if you get 10% off code) for Stellaris plus more games that you can always trade if you don't like - while also donating some money to a good cause? Mental.
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Hmmm. i played it a bit on a friends computer when it first came out.
Lots of likes, lots of dislikes.
Good game, there was virtually no politics involved (aside in war or in peace, no real interactions in the middle) which made the game boring after a while.
Heard they fixed it somehow. Not going for early unlock, but ill definitely get the bundle.
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only those complain about Paradox's lot of DLCs whose dont know anything about their DLC release policy, that it unlock just some options in the game while the big content coming with the free patch when DLC gets released. Please call out one more company which keeping their games updated for years while the big content changes allways free.
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Granted, both of those games are multiplayer and there might be non-altruistic reasons (microtransactions) why they kept making new content for so long but still every player can enjoy that content without paying a cent extra.
Terraria and Re-Logic are another positive example of a company that kept updating and adding content to their game for years.
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Too many dlc's :\ but will have nice games with it, but have to save money.
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Damn. Bought Stellaris for $29 only a couple of weeks ago...
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You can also use Paypal, that's what I do at least. Never used a CC on HB.
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You still need a CC attached to your PP account to buy a humble monthly, tried it myself.
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Excuse me, I saw you advertising great surprises in the next Humble Monthly all over the place. Humble until now never released any info anywhere about the contents of their upcoming bundle (with exception of the very first one).
Who are you that you claim to have such knowledge?
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