Do you love the awesome Microsoft feature called Telemetry? /s
"This is mainly an advice for those who have auto updates enabled and don't like Telemetry." This thread its for prevent it from get installed to your PC. That's all I wanted to share.
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Or that's what Microsoft wants you to think! For all we know they could of made it so that no matter what option you tick it'll always be enabled.
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because people dont monitor for that kind of stuff and would immediately call MS out on it and start a class action. /s
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Both options are sarcastic? What? Why? I DO have a lot to hide from the world :/
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I thought I got my grammar good this time. Although you can use my dickpic for your guitar if you want... jk I will correct that error.
As for Telemetry
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Telemetry
Telemetry refers to the data we collect about your app when it's running on customers' computers. If you enable this feature in your Windows Store developer account, your app will automatically send info back to Microsoft about how often it has been launched, how long it has been running, and whether it has experienced an error such as crashing or encountering a JavaScript exception. We collect this info for each app, analyze and summarize it, and provide reports in your Dashboard. You can choose to enable or disable telemetry data collection at any time.It tracks app usage, ignore that about Windows Store developer account, it applies to normal users too, not just for developers.
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh967787.aspx
Edit: Fuck, I forget I can't correct poll answers.
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Yeah, I hate how google forces their apps in Android. Even if you root your device Google makes the apps dependent to other apps, so if you want to use X app you need all the other apps, very clever and obnoxious. And if you read the permissions that those apps have, haha even telemetry seems nothing.
And you are right, its almost impossible to be totally anonymous, it requires a special Linux distro and a lot of knowledge and effort.
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You can try my solution - is not perfect but ...
Use CM, mandatory in combination with xposed framework and of course with xprivicy. Do not use Google services, instead use alternative solutions such as Amazon app store.
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My phone doesn't have Google Play at all, it doesn't come with it. Many phones are like that today, at least outside US.
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How do I disable Automatic Updates I don't want that on my PC.
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for w8.1
search => windows update settings => install mode => only if i want to download and install
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I have W7, but I just googled it and disabled updates right now.
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Better check in your control panel to disable telemetry, it seems this update was from early June, so maybe you already have it installed, in Win 7 you can do that by gong to Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Action Center\Change Action Center settings.
Or you can uninstall the kb3068708 update from your system and you are done. Credit goes to MrWubbleStein for this info.
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I have that update, but do not have any telemetry option in the action center. Do you mean the customer experience thing? That is already checked as no/opt-out/off.
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just disable the function, if you don't want it. disabling all updates (incl. security fixes) might not be the smartest move.
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Go to Windows Update, Change Settings, make sure "Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates" is not ticked. This should keep you from getting this update automatically but you'll still get security updates and such.
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Seriously: DON'T disable updates...
If you keep your PC up to date and have a half decent sense of what's going on in the Internet you don't need AntiVirus-Software - having old Software is like heaven for everyone who wants to control your PC...
I'd rather search for a way to disable this particular feature than disables all updates...
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I want to find out what 'update' will force my system to add the telemetry feature. Then, I will not allow those to be installed.
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You are little late with the warning. This update went out in early June as a recommended update. Most people probably already have this. I would not recommend turning off automatic updates. Rather simply disable the customer experience improvement, which in Windows 7 you can do by gong to Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Action Center\Change Action Center settings.
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Lol that's a bit too late as you point out. Luckily I had updated disabled since the beginning of the year and I only install those critical for the security.
Thanks for the info! I updated the main post.
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This. After reading all that the update is about, I'm not sure what all of the fuss is.
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Just imagine them storing that data. Sure they won't do anything with it (if you are really that gullible). But what if a hacker/rogue employee with access got it? What then?
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Then said hacker or rogue employee will be able to find out the specs of my PC (OMG shocking!). There is no personally identifiable information being sent. No credit card numbers, no email addresses, no banking information, no names, no addresses. So, once again, what's the big deal?
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absolutely what i'm thinking. people always complain about their privacy, and about how their data is stolen - and i bet in many cases they don't even know what data exactly is transmitted. ^^
i couldn't care less, actually. they can have my pc specs in exchange for the free win10. ;)
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cloud services, facebook, android\iOS system are even more "dangerous" and people use them everyday.
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The fact that cloud based data services like Dropbox is storing your items in their servers are more frightening than a simple telemetry. xD
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Indeed, for the love of god encrypt personal files if you upload them on cloud.
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You are on Steam already. Surely they have your billing info? Same could have been said against Steam.
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ms is free to report all the programs and games i have pirated. :)
also movies.
and mp3.
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i have like the first version of w7. Never have updated a thing.
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i can give you a place where you can find me.
192.168.1.254
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That's your private network address, the bad guys needs the public :p BTW dont post your public without being full updated....
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Thats my home...network address.
I know he cant do a thing with that lol.
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But but but... I there is no place like 127.0.01. ... there is no place like 127.0.0.1... damn, I ain't got ruby shoes!
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OMG W10 is evil and stealing data. I must disable all the updates and warn everybody through Facebook while I use my trust-worthy Android device!
Seriously, I don't get it. Chrome and Origin are already digging further into your PC by just using them...
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Really!!?? Wow I never realized that OMG! Thanks Francisco.
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This article is from June, but I think it's interesting reading: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2015/06/google-chrome-listening-in-to-your-room-shows-the-importance-of-privacy-defense-in-depth/
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I was being sarcastic man, damn I always have problems with my sarcasm. But anyway, thanks for the article I can't sleep so I will read it.
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Sorry I missed it, last night I could not sleep. Terrible heat in Europe. https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Flivemedia.image1.cloud.oxgn.bg%2F2015%2F05%2F15%2F5555f7d9b31b3_crop_592_397.jpg&f=1
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Yeah, sometimes it needs to be obvious, sadly...Paquito.
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You will need to collect more data to know that...maybe if you can remotely activate telemetry in my PC and redirect the packages to go to your server instead of Microsoft, you will know.
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Does your System use DOS, or Apple Software? If so, then you're already screwed.
Microsoft and Apple Inc. both embeded Tracking Software in their base Programing,
and it Relays all your dirty little secrets directly to the Government Every time you
Connect to the Internet.
If you want a Computer that does'nt already Automaticly leak all of your Secrects to the
Government, you might try Linux, but even then, unless you're a Computer God that can
Write all your own software, somebody is likely to get your Data Anyway.
Many of the more advanced Games have Tracking Software embeded in them, and
Steam is basicly one big Tracking Program.
Do you Download your games from Steam? If so, then you're already screwed!
Let's get realistic. You're chances of Hiding any of this Information from the Government,
and Big Business are about 0%.
They Made your Computer Parts, they made your Software, and They WILL do whatever
they feel like with your Data.
If you Really don't want them getting that Data, you either need to Never Connect to the
Internet, or just Never use a Computer!
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What? Who the hell says you need to be a computer god to use Linux lol, you made me laugh. I can use Linux (Debian distros) and I suck at computers. And as for writting all your software by yourself...ummm, have you ever heard about Open Source Software? Linux use that...
Here is an awesome and free Linux course https://www.edx.org/course/linux-system-administration-essentials-linuxfoundationx-lfs201x
I learned Linux with it.
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I never said you need to be a Computer God to use Linux.
You need to be a Computer God if you want to keep the Government out of your Computer.
To Keep the Government out, you basicly need to Write ALL of your own Software.
Do you Write all of the Games you Play? If not, then your already Screwed.
Any File Larger then 100Mb is capable of containing Tracking Software, and Most of them Do.
If you think Avoiding 1 update will Protect your Data, your Dead Wrong.
Remember back around 2000 there was some Talk of going after Microsoft as a Monopoly?
Then they just stopped. You ever wonder Why? It's because the Government likes things just
fine the way they are, and wants Microsoft to continue supplying them with Data.
You might think Apple would be immune, but in point of fact, the Government would've shut
them down a long time ago if they were'nt supplying Data as well.
You might think that it's big Businees that wants your Data, so they can "Customize" Ads for you.
LMAO. That's exactly what the Government wants you to think, but they're ones who Do it.
Oh certainly, you'll never find a "Government" agency responsible for it, but that's called
Plausible Deniability.
They "Contract" out all of the initial Software Work, then sit back, and let the Data roll in.
When they're satisfied that YOU, are not a Threat to National Security, they then sell your Data
to all of the Companies, for Penny's per personal Profile.
There's not much you can do about it either, except not Using the Internet, or a Computer.
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"Just because I'm Paranoid, don't mean they're not after me."
-Kurt Cobain.
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Don't bash him like that man, we are in a gaming forum, keep the bullying for school hours :3
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No, not you, my comment was pointed to SpaceNinjaPirate
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ok. I did'nt take any offense. I only get Ticked off when people imply I'm Ignorant. That's mostly, because if I am Ignorant, the Courteous thing to do is Inform me of it.
Most people just like to point out how little you know, instead of trying to help you learn more.
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"Most people just like to point out how little you know, instead of trying to help you learn more."
Those are wise words. I will remember that and try to improve.
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Your writing style reminds me when I was forced to read poetry at the school. Can I ask you why you choose to write like that?
Man I live in a country where journalists and activists are killed every single day, I already know that the Government use your data against you if you are an obstacle for them. I really wasn't trying to solve all the privacy issues in the world by writing this thread...
Have you ever seen the Bourne movies? I bet you have developed your situational awareness like a pro.
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I have seen the Bourne movies, They were fun, but I'd point you to a Movie with Shia LaBeouf.
It's called Eagle Eye, and if you think the Computer in this Movie is Insane or Impossible, you should see what the CIA, NSA, and all of the Other Agency's Have.
It's Beautiful. It'd be about 10 Stories tall, if it Were'nt underground, and It thinks a Trillion times faster then the Human Brain.
I'm sure you get that. For anyone else that might Read this, that means, the Government has a Computer that's 1,000,000,000,000 Times Smarter then a Human.
Do a Search. "deep blue world chess champion"
That was 20 years ago, and not even the Smartest Computer on the Planet at the Time.
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Thinking faster than a human brain does not equal smarter. My 20-yo CPU was doing calculations faster than the greatest math savants of the world, yet it still wouldn't have been able to form a coherent sentence in written form by itself.
By the way, that rumour of the NSA computer is so old it was even in Digital Fortress. And even there the writer could only think of one application, brute-force password hacking. Just because you have a computer that can do 700 exaflops it doesn't mean it will overtake the world, it means it can guess your 32-character long password so an agent can read the mail you sent to your mom.
Something the government could already do in the 1800s if they wanted to.
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Your absolutely right. The 1st calculators were faster then Humans, yet limited in their ability to do anything other then Calculate.
And no, I don't Believe a self Aware AI is watching Us. As for the NSA's Use of Super Computers, it's openly Acknowledged that they do it.
The Number of people in the World has grown from about 2 Billion when Computers were first invented, to over 6 Billion, and more and More Countries are entering the Modern age, and the Poor Computers at the NSA spend all day Processing all of the Data fed into them in order to find the vital information in the mountain of Data they have.
No single Human could ever hope to Sort through all of the Messages just like this Post, that appear everyday all over the Planet, in a Day, or even a Year, but a Computer can do it in
"Real Time" Monitoring Every communication, from around the World as it's Happening.
I don't think Computers are watching us.
I think the People that payed for the Computers are watching us.
The computer is just a Tool, albeit a sophisticated one.
The Large Data base that they use. The Big one they Keep underground, stores all the Data going back to Files from Before there were such a thing as computers.
It used to Cover 23 Square acres in Virginia, Now it fit's below one Square Block in Maryland.
The Size of it isn't because of it's Ability, it's So the Cooling System can Keep it from Frying.
They build them Shaped like a Chimeny, because, in essence, that's what they are, a Chiminey for Venting Heat. The Structure is a Giant Cooling unit, built around the Server Farm within.
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You are talking about the Echelon system, or more like the slightly frighteningly lunatic conspiracy theory version of it.
The existence of the system is far from being secret. And also the system's existence means pretty much nothing, since even the US admitted that sure, they actually see everything, but it still needs humans to shift through all the positive hits, so even if you casually call your friend to discuss the details of how you plan to smuggle a nuclear device into Washington DC, the chances of the secret service actually realising they heard it, is slim enough to have a chance to actually pull of that stunt. Assuming such an operation wouldn't need absolutely anything that may raise suspicion, which is, of course, unrealistic. Plots are not discovered because a tower-sized supercomputer tells them, but because eventually the lot of small signs reach a point where it becomes too obvious. And even an old-fashioned detective's nose can do that, just maybe not on a global scale.
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You win. The Government never spy's on us, and
we're perfectly safe whenever congress is in session. ;-P
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Nah, they spy on us, but when you see everything, it is incredibly difficult to spot something. Remember the Where's Waldo pictures? Large-scale "privacy invasion" is exactly like that. Very difficult to spot you among the millions of crowds unless you do something to really, really stand out.
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That's why I say, If you want to keep it a secret, Never put it on a Computer. ^.^
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Yeah, I guess it is quite true. On the other hand, how many things do we really have that we need to keep secret from the authorities (who have access to personal data regardless)? Apart from possible illegal stuff, of course; although nobody ever bothers if Mr. John Smith has pirated Windows and uses a pirated PhotoShop to post funny cat pics made from screenshots of a torrented movie on Imgur.
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ok, and a Gigabuster is 2kb.
You often get Malware, no matter what the name of it is, through large File Downloads,
where it can hitch a ride unnoticed.
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Agree, sometimes even for an advanced user its difficult to not get some malware even installing normal programs... (toolbars or some search engine) but to be honest, most of the people get infected with trojans thanks to all those cracks + keygens + doing naughty stuff / being too curious :p
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That Happened to me awhile back. I got a Random Invite, and accepted it, and they Immediatly Messaged me, telling me I had won a GA, and to click the Link they had posted.
Well, I did'nt remember entering any GA, but I was Curious and Clicked it. >.<
It's like sticking your hand in the Fire.
I know better now, but the memory is still a little embarassing.
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Its funny I made this thread to address just ONE thing called Telemetry and nothing more. Yet, there are people posting things implying I am speaking about every privacy problem in the world haha, I don't really mind it though, its entertaining. The world will be more sad and boring if everyone agrees with X idea.
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it only takes one Exploit for the entire World to be able to look at your Data. How many Programs on your computer are Tracking you Right now?
Do you know? Do you know for sure? Would you Bet your Life on it?
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exactly 17 programs, and yes, i am willing to bet my life on it!
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Remarkable. Well, your a Braver man the I am. If it has ...
D ell
O perating
S ystem
Then I would'nt trust it to function properly for me, let only wager my Life on such an Antiquated
"Data Collecting" software, commissioned by the Government.
EDIT: Interesting. I Did some quick research, and Found that All mention of the Origins of DOS
Have been Erased, and When you ask what DOS means it Says "Digital Operating System".
Maybe I really Have Lost it, because As I remember it, DELL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell
Invented the Standard Operating Shell, but was a paid a paltry sum for it's Use on all Computers Everywhere.
It used to be on my Old Computer from when I was a Child, that If you looked at the Publisher and Version Number, it would Say "Version 10.1.00 Dell Operating System(T) Dell Inc."
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It's one of the optional updates so you can choose not to install it, i didnt.
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Seriously: DON'T disable updates...
If you keep your PC up to date and have a half decent sense of what's going on on the Internet you don't need AntiVirus-Software - having old Software is like heaven for everyone who wants to control your PC...
I'd rather search for a way to disable this particular feature than disables all updates...
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everything is tracked and traced .. they see your exact location without even GPS chip .
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another clicky explaining better
EDIT: Under Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Action Center\Change Action Center settings there's this blue clicky saying "Definitions of the consumer's experience improvement program"(or something like this, badly translated). Press there, and say no.
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How is the telemetry in Windows problematic? How is it an invasion of anyone's privacy? Why should anyone be bothered by it?
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you do realize all of your apps on android and ios without a single exception do this right?so why get mad at microsoft when they want to do it?
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I have to confess. It was all a conspiracy to make you write the exact words that you just wrote. It worked.
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no.i'll prove it to you.open your phone and name 5 to 10 random apps for me and i'll tell you what they really do in your phone background.
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Fyi : http://sensorstechforum.com/nl/uninstall-windows-updates-kb3068708-kb3022345-and-fix-errors/
I had both KB's on my system and I uninstalled them both (kb3068708-kb3022345)
TL DR: update 3068708 is a renewed release of update 3022345. Both updates can be and are used by Microsoft to " phone home " data collected on the systems these updates are installed on.
EDIT: There's a good chance that after uninstalling these 2 updates that Windows Update will offer them again but one can counter this easely by hiding updates kb3022345 and kb3068708.
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Disabling Windows Update isn't very smart. They actually release a lot great patches that fix errors and patch potential exploits.
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Thanks a lot for the heads up! I have little to hide, but still, I'm not sharing for free my personal data to the Big M!
I've uninstalled update kb3068708, thank you from the bottom of my heart matey!
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At least there is something to listen while being... http://www.songfacts.com/category-songs_about_being_paranoid.php
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Well, it seems Microsoft its going wild. They want to implement the Telemetry feature in Win7 and Win 8.1 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3068708
Good luck implementing shit in my PC Microsoft, I got your updates disabled :3
This is mainly an advice for those who have auto updates enabled and don't like Telemetry.
And /s=sarcasm, I had problems before with sarcasm so that's why I prefer to make it super obvious.
EDIT: AS MrWubbleStein POINTED OUT, THIS INFO CAME A BIT TOO LATE, THIS UPDATE IS FROM EARLY JUNE LOL, SO IF YOU INSTALLED UPDATES RECENTLY YOU BETTER CHECK THAT OUT, THE UPDATE YOU NEED TO UNINSTALL IS kb3068708, OR YOU CAN DISABLE TELEMETRY IN YOUR CONTROL PANEL.
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