I was browsing the Fanatical page and noticed there's a 95% discount on a Sid Meier’s Civilization VI Steam Key for the Standard Edition who is 59.99 on Steam itself.
You can get it for 2.99 for the coming 2 days and 20 hours.
It's not my kind of game but thought I'll give you a heads up on this deal.

Fanatical: Sid Meier’s Civilization VI
Steam

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CD Keys is not an official store they are a reseller site

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Please remove that link as that's not allowed to be posted here on SG as it links the grey market and also please don't advertise the grey market. I'm issuing you a warning for now, but next time it happens there will be action taken against your account.

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Am I right to assume you said to remove a link to the "Deleted" poster?
If it's towards me I'll do so but thought Fanatical is okay as there are countless bundle links in the deals section.

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Yes, that was to the person who's comment is no longer there. Another support member of a higher rank came and deleted the comment before the got back online.

Fanatical is perfectly fine to post, as it's not part of the grey market. Here's a list of sites like Fanatical that are also not part of the grey market that people can post about.

2Game
Allyouplay
Dreamgame
Gamebillet
GamersGate
Gamerthor
GAMESLOAD
Gamesplanet DE
Gamesplanet FR
Gamesplanet UK
Gamesplanet US
Green Man Gaming
Humble Bundle
Indie Gala
JoyBuggy
Noctre
Nuuvem
Playsum
Startselect
Voidu
WinGameStore

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What about discount codes from that particulas site? Not a code from a grey market site, but from this specific price comparison site. Is it allowed to mention this code when posting a deal (on an official reseller sitre ofc)?

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I believe that wouldn't be allowed under the SG guidelines as it's a promotional offer from a grey market site.

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Thanks, but does a price comparison site count as grey market, too? An example, IsthereanyDeal sometimes has the code ITAD, which you can use on Gamersgate. The "other" comparison site has a similar code, which you can use on Gamersgate, too.

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The answer to this doesn't seem like it would be very cut and dry due to a few things, so I'm not exactly sure. I am going to bring this up to the rest of the team and get feedback. Thank you for the question.

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Thanks a lot for your answer. Have a great day!

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I got feedback, so here's the answer. Even though the discount code may be for a licensed store and not one of the grey market, it wouldn't be allowed because it's an exclusive code for a site that isn't allowed here on SG.

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Ah, thank you very much!

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It's not that, or at least it's not only about the money you spend. There are two main ethical issues:

  • You might be buying a key that was obtained through fraud (like with a stolen credit card), and that could lead to the key being revoked. Sure, it doesn't happen often, but that doesn't mean it can't.
  • You're basically underpaying or even "stealing" the game from the devs. Maybe that's less of a big deal when it comes to huge AAA companies, but for indie developers it's a lot more serious. Either way, you're supporting a shady grey market run by questionable people.

Some devs have even said they'd rather you pirate their game than buy it from one of those resellers. Why? Because you still pay less, you still get the game, but the devs get nothing, while the reseller and maybe even someone who stole a credit card gets the money instead.

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CD Keys is a website of a singular reseller, it's not a marketplace like you seem to be describing.

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Nevertheless it is a seller on the grey market.

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Yes, I wasn't refuting that. Just letting the poster know it's not the same thing as a marketplace.

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Sorry, my bad, I misunderstood you.

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Shame it's just the base game this time, they had the Anthology version up for -91% off earlier this year.

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Platinum is -88%

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And it's missing like half the DLC.

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you're right, I thought "Anthology" was a Civ 3-6 bundle.

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I know 7 is out, but it's still kinda wild to see 6 sell for 3 bucks.

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That's only to bait people into the DLC. The Civ games without DLC are kinda weak usually. I haven't yet tried 6 or 7 myself though..

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By bait, you mean they enjoy the game and want more of it?

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I think it's more like they find out the game isn't as fulfilling as expected, so they feel the pressure to buy overpriced DLCs to fill the void of a shell of a game, but yeah, basically what you said I guess. I miss when a game wasn't carved out into pieces. You ever experience that luxury? It was kind of awesome back in the day.

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Sometimes a game is carved up. Sometimes the devs simply have more ideas to add to a game. Generally, the base game is a full game experience.

To your other point though: who doesn't enjoy a game but thinks the DLC will make them like it more? I can't say I've heard anybody cite that as a reason for buying DLC. It's pretty much always either they love the game and want more, or it's FOMO of some sort when buying the base game. But not liking the game as a reason? That seems off.

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Well, look at it this way, a person buys a game because of some sort of hype or expectation, whether that is because of what other people said, or because it sounded good. Let's say its on Steam, and they "play" the game over 2 hours, past the refund window. Now, perhaps they feel the game was ok, but not as great as expected, maybe it feels more empty or not as feature rich. Now, there's addons that advertise that they add more to a game's features and functionality. They don't want to feel they wasted their money on the base game, and they know from research of the new addons and people's reviews that it adds way more to the game, or as they had hoped the game would be in the first place. They'll buy that DLC. It may seem like an unlikely scenario for you, which I can understand, especially if you don't have that mindset, but the world is full of millions of different gamers from all walks of life and situations, so its really not beyond expectation that this is a valid scenario.

And, yes, generally the base game is a "full game" experience, but there's still a decrease in quality and fullness of games now compared to years ago, when we consider DLC addons. If a game has a DLC, by definition, the game is no longer a 'full game' without the DLC, even if that DLC is a cosmetic.

If a game's addons are from new features and functionality that could reasonably not be considered part of the original game design, and a game is not designed to be carved up for an income scheme, then great, DLCs are a great valid edition. However, if they are a planned "feature" for increased revenue, and they're built and structured for that fact alone, then that's a different story.

Frankly, the collective customer base buying DLCs from the latter reason just enable more of that to happen, and eventually it becomes a norm. When the golden horse armor was released back in the day for The Elder Scrolls, trust me, many of us thought it was ridiculous, in both in terms of a stupid cosmetic, and the gall for the company to charge for it. However, they were testing the waters for what they could push with added content, and there was enough of a customer base that felt putting out the cash was worth it. Other companies jumped on, and eventually its become commonplace and accepted as just another 'feature' of gaming.

I personally don't see how people can play free mobile games, sinking money into silly addons and boosters for fun, but people do. But, then I like a full featured experience where I can enjoy a story, and feel like I'm spending time on something with some actual meat to it. But, that's my point, it takes all kinds, and as long as there's a market for it, there's going to be people spending money in ways and for reasons that don't seem logical, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

I also don't see a reason for people to buy games en-masse that they never intend to play. Granted I have quite a collection myself, but I have every intention to play each one that I have, and I purchased those games based on that quality of expectation for entertainment for myself. Takes all kinds.

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You seem to be equating cosmetics to expansions. Which are not the same thing.

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Well, if that's the determination you received from my comments, then so be it, I don't have the desire to hold your hand through explanations. Cheers!

2 weeks ago
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Your explanation really didn't mean much. It was almost entirely speculation with a sprinkling of you not understanding other gamers while also acting like horse armor is the same as expansions.

People want more of a game they already enjoy and expansions provide that. Pretending there is some nefarious reason for offering game expansions is inherently silly. Cosmetics OTOH is all about milking players. If you come to understand the difference at some point, feel free to share your newfound awareness.

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