^^ This.
My experience is that you'll get that kind of treatment from several teachers on most universities. The ones that care make it worthwhile, in my opinion.
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There are only two really and they don't really care, they are just helpful as much as they can. Still, a whole lot of professors with megalomania over there
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I've been to five universities. In my limited experience, the best thing to do while at university is to remember three things:
1) Don't rely on anyone else to teach you. Use the resources at the school (e.g. library, office hours, tutoring) to educate yourself.
2) Find out who the best teachers in the school are and try to take their classes. It is almost always worthwhile.
3) In the end, work experience and demonstrated talent (along with a good work ethic) count much more than a diploma.
How can you tell who the best teachers are? Ask the upperclassmen/graduate students or a teacher whom you trust. They are familiar with the staff and understand what it takes to be a good teacher.
Special Note: As Dhampy pointed out, University is not a machine that takes in clueless applicants and spits out trained professionals. It is a place where those who are goal-oriented and willing to work hard to overcome any obstacles in their path may learn how to continue their education outside of school. To be specific, undergraduate studies teach you how to research, problem-solve, and present information to others. Graduate studies involve honing your skills in a particular subject and displaying your mastery by presenting a completed work of high caliber. Doctorate studies include contributing to your field of knowledge and defending your work against all comers.
If you do not have a "burning purpose" to be attending University, and a grim determination to achieve your goal, you should probably take time off from school (i.e. spend time working) until you acquire both of those things.
I hope I have said something helpful.
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1) That's the problem. They teach us how stage a play in a theatre. Why the hell would I learn it even if I wanted to use the resources? It's useless.
2) What do you mean by that? Go and join another group that has the best teacher on the same subject? That would be a lot of trouble with paperworks, you know
3) For what I study, I get only theoretical part.
Well, your advices are helpful but they don't give me really that much. You say I should go working, but I don't want to work as a bartender or waitress, because come on. I have a goal to become a translator, but the thing I'm learning right now gives so little to it..I don't need to be taught how to be learn, but I also can't get a job as a translator. I may, of course, try working as a freelance, and I do, but it pays very little in comparison with translation agencies. Anyway, I know it's possible to establish connection with clients and become their long-term freelance translator, but I can't imagine a successful career of that kind in my small country.
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1) No, that isn't the problem. The problem is your frame of mind, and you have control over that.
2) Effort is required to achieve. If you're not going to put effort into University, don't waste your time and money by going there.
3) You get out what you put in. There are 168 hours in a week, of which you spend maybe 10 in class. There is ample time and opportunity for you to be learning outside of the classroom.
Your father should have taught you all of this. Instead of coming up with excuses for why you "can't," try coming up with solutions and ways that you "can." Look for alternate solutions, focus on benefiting from what is available, and work your ass off getting past obstacles and acquiring skills. Sitting around in "child mode," waiting for other people to do things for you and hand you what you need, results in wasted time and minimal benefit. Take charge of your own life or you will find yourself with nothing but the scraps everyone else leaves behind.
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1) Yes, you're right. I just shut myself off. I could find some use in that. Still, I have no motivation
2) It's not mine to be wasted, it's teacher's and administration's.
3) Lol, you said that it's the practical part that you get from university that's the most valuable. I just stated that there is no such a thing.
The father has nothing to do with this; however, I had none.
That's a good advice, actually. Will stay where I am and do what I can.
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3) You're missing the point. Just because someone doesn't hand you something doesn't mean you can't still get it. You simply have to be willing to get it on your own.
I had a father who abandoned me, but that hasn't stopped me. Sure, the experience left a big emotional scar which will never go away, but I eventually realized that my past only has as much control over my life as I allow it. The child me had very few options for dealing with mistreatment, but I am no longer a child. If I choose to remain "stuck" in my past, focusing on my pain and reacting to it like a child, then I am the one abusing myself, today. Remaining focused inward is both self-centered and selfish, and I end up hurting not only myself but also anyone who is trying to have a relationship with me. There is so much more to life than my emotional injuries. Only by leaving my past behind and focusing outward---beyond myself---can I be the person I want to be and have a healthy, happy, and productive life.
Everyone has problems. Successful people choose to get over them and move on with their lives.
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I've spend three years in two different universities studying different things(arts year and a half, computer engineering a year)
a lot of teachers don't give a damn about students I don't even know why they teach
If people didn't care that much for that stupid paper I'd say go for autodidact but people care for that paper
I mean, you can try autodidact but it will be harder, trust me I've seen my mom, she's an autodidact in her profession and she does pretty well but sometimes it's hard for her because of the lack of diploma
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Why is it hard for her? As far as I understand, you need a diploma only to take your first job. Then, they don't even look at it, they only notice that you had an experience in the field and you have a diploma (therefore you can write that you have but you don't, they won't check)
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I hold a masters in history, work as a lecturer on the university level, and have worked as a general academic adviser; both at crappy state schools. Laying out my qualifications out in front, to show that I have given this kind of advice in the past.
Now, I premise this advice on how universities in the US work: my sole experience in other systems was a brief time in Britain and their system is even more student-friendly. Given that, I will tell you that if you engage your professor with an intelligent concern, they will help you through your troubles. If for no other reason so to avoid any potential complaints being filed. If you want feedback, go talk to the prof during office hours. Don't appear to whine about getting a bad grade because that will begin the interaction on a negative note. Ask specific questions about how you can improve, which implies both an acceptance of bad grades and a eagerness to do the work necessary to improve.
In general, a university education is not job training. It is intended to educate. Which means understanding science and literature and economics and politics and foreign languages and history. It is intended to create a human which thinks and understands instead of merely reacting to stimuli. Blah blah blah.
More importantly, it is also a culling process. People who can't hack the two years of chickenshit along with the two years of actual education on their major shouldn't be wasting their money. Now, that isn't a negative. Not everyone is cut out for university, and it doesn't mean you're stupid. It just means that you don't want to do the chickenshit, which in many cases makes shows a greater intelligence. And there are often other options to pursue to the same goals.
My most serious advice is to research the kinds of jobs you want. Research what degrees are actually held by the people in those jobs--in the US this kind of info can be found on career sites that provide pay and education statistics for jobs to help people negotiate better salaries.
It is entirely possible that the lesser degree is sufficient to start off with what you want to do. And then experience will be your ticket to advancement. A lot of jobs in writing and the like in the US require "X degree or Y years experience". In this case, all you really need to do is get your foot in the door.
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Well, that's the problem. No one wants to hire a person without experience and without a degree. Degree makes it easier in some way, but it's still not easy. There's a translation agency over here that offers 2-6 months of practice for beginner translators with the feedback from redactor. That's a great opportunity, but I can't work there while I'm at university. In the summer, maybe, but it won't guarantee me the work anyway, even if I get a good recommendation letter from them.
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If you can do it during the summer, you should. Even if it doesn't lead to a full time job, it goes on your CV and and you can use it to demonstrate experience in translation.
You can look at a career path as the boy scouts. The more merit badges you have, the better.
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Unfortunately, I got some bonds with relatives over here, I can't go to Sweden :(
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I must have been lucky with the degree I'm doing then. My lecturers are always willing to help with any problems that any students have. They always wait around for 10 minutes at the end to answer questions, reply to emails within a day and always attend the practical sessions where they will also answer any questions.
Are you saying that usually it is nothing like that at all? Because in my opinion they do a good job at my uni.
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Correct. It is usually nothing at all like that. Most programs are designed to weed people out, not gently bring them up to speed. The further you get in "higher education," the more difficult it becomes to advance, hence the "toughening up" process to which most students are subjected.
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So are you saying it's a good thing that my lecturers do this or bad? Your last sentence makes it sound like it's a bad thing and I would be depending more and more on the lecturers instead of myself.
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On the one hand, having difficulty in your life provides the opportunity to strengthen yourself. On the other, it can be discouraging.
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haha lol. I wrote like 10 e-mails to my lecturers when I was sick asking for some information about what they are studying at the moment and what should I do to keep up with the studies. NO ONE ANSWERED. EVER.
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yeah, and on the first week of studies they're like "here's my email write my pls if you got questions!!1"
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apply for a student exchange program and study in sweden
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^^^ This would be one of the "alternate paths" to reach the expressed goal.
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Unfortunately, I got some bonds with relatives over here, I can't go to Sweden :( [2]
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I'm sorry, but what do you mean when you say bonds? I don't think you mean finance bonds...
Also, for this matter, i think you need to stay where you are, first year is always tough, and full of things you don't really need, think of them like advanced common knowledge courses. As you progress towards bachelor/master degree, you'll have courses that really take you to another(higher) level and teach you how to do your job efficiently. And who knows, maybe your first job will be to translate and readjust some theatrical act on latvian to english or swedish. You never know.
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Well, there are some
Yeah, that's how I'm looking on it all the time, trying to take a positive note, but, you know, 3-rd year students have 50% of the same lectures as we have, lol. And those 50% are the ones with the theatre thing.
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Also, they say that in order to do that you have to get "good recommendations from lecturers" and, you know, I'm far from being the most hardworking student.
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Swedish is not cool..
I think you should do whatever leads to your ultimate goal. Yes this university may seem like it's wasting your time with irrelevant courses and professors who can't teach to save their lives, but be aware that you are only at the first half year of your education..
Remember the law of small numbers. Just because this first term sucked, doesn't mean the rest of them will. There has to be a reason that this university is internationally recognized :)
Also, you're not going to study there for the rest of your life, so what ever furthers your ability to achieve your future goals seems like the course of action to take.
Regards, a swedish speech-language pathology student
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It may not be cool, but it's the best paid (alongside with other scandinavian languages) in a translation pair.
There's another university, a technical one. It's the second best out here and I wanted to go there to Technical Translation studies. But as it came out, they are great in only what relates to engineering etc. Their Technical Translation is as bad as it can get. Therefore, you can't say that "There has to be a reason that this university is internationally recognized", because it also has Medical (or medicinal?) studies and they suck. No one goes there.
Well, you at least can see what your future is going to be :P
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Sorry, I am confused. Is what you're saying that university you're attending is only "high quality" in terms of engineering related education?
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I have found that when teachers don't give you feedback on why they didn't like things, it can be helpful to go to their office and ask them. You can even tell them that you are not interested in getting points back, but are interested in getting a better understanding of the material. They love that sort of thing and will more than likely think of you as one of their better students.
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there's a guy who always asks if we got any questions. He always comes to consultations and can spend a whole day being at university. But he really pisses everyone off somehow. The teachers are like "STOP ASKING ME THESE STUPID QUESTIONS". Don't want to be in his place
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You need to find a balance between seeming indifferent and borderline creepy stalker. If you spend a few minutes in their office before and after an assignment, it shows that you do care about the work. If you spend a few hours, it gets incredibly annoying.
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Paying for a university you don't like? Why?
I studied 8 years in my university and i didn't pay a single penny. Why don't you find another uni (a free uni if you can't afford paying them as i did) as soon as you are not pleased with that one? Well, i didn't learn much from my uni (only theory) but at least i was treated like a human being and i got my papers.
I'd suggest not to hear anyone of us in here but instead to make a huge and deep research on your own about the paths you can follow. Then write down in a piece of paper all your alternatives and after a lot of consideration, make your call. An old friend from the US taught me that, he was calling it "the American way" :P and i can verify and guarantee that it works with great results on every single circumstance in your life. It has only failed once in the 15 years i am using it, when i used it to stop playing games :(
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Because it's what will lead me to achieving my goal, eventually
Free uni? What's that? What were you studying 8 years?
Lol you can't stop playing games. Gaben is not proud of you
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Every uni in my country is free. And if you take scholarship due to good marks (7 or higher that is, max is 10), you can stay and study more degrees for free.
8 years are: the basic Msc for 4 years and 2 more Msc for 2 years each.
Games ... ... ... no comments :(
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I got paid (handsomely relative to my country's min wage) as a front-end developer without any educational qualification, or professional background. It was a hobby. I have a diploma in architecture and a master in design, btw, so I think self development is the key to a good job, not merely degrees. So I think instead of worrying too much about your grades, try getting into relevant extra-curricula clubs or societies as much as possible.
From interviews I've had looking for jobs, all don't give a flying **** about your educational background if your can show that you can do something better than most people. Your degree can only get you to an interview, the rest is simply a matter of good communication.
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This. So much this.
I'm currently doing webdesign to get a high school diploma (heavily slowed down by moving to another country, having to learn the language, etc.) and aiming at back-end later while also thinking about doing a major in psychology once I gain financial stability.
I like how IT in general is more about what you can do and not how and where you learn that.
That said I'm still very much torn between these two. Thinking which one should I pursue first, which one interests me more, etc.
As for OP, if you really cannot find yourself there (awasmaji mentioned clubs and societies - try those before giving up), I'd suggest switching either Uni or what you're studying. Afaik in order to be a certified translator, you can choose whatever major you want (I suggest picking one that you're interested in/can help you with translation in that field) and get better at translating on your own. In the end you still have to get the certificate.
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Hello!
I am writing because I don't know where else to write :C anyway, here's the thing: I am studying English/Swedish Philology at university. It's my first half a year and I'm so tired of this useless boring crap. BUT I have a dream to become a translator and the only possible way I've seen for me to become is to go to the best university of Latvia and study this and then go to Master degree of translation (because they don't have a bachelor degree for this). Anyway, I'm suffering now. I pay a lot of money for mostly useless things (there are some cool things like Swedish or Linguistics) and teachers still treat us like crap. Mainly because they do nothing to really teach, they just give us materials, give a lecture and that's all. And if we do something wrong we don't get a feedback. Just "gtfo" and that's all. Yes, what could I expect, BUT. I am seriously considering dropping out. Because I might as well go to another university where they really have a diploma for translation (but they are not internationally fucking recognized, that's why I went to the one I went, to get a recognized diploma) or simply take studies of the same Swedish and English, where they won't feed me shit like "how to organize a theatrical act". What do you think, guys? Should I go and get a diploma of translation (because the other university's shitty and won't teach much anyway. same as here) [but will it be enough to hire me?] or just study myself (I'm autodidact actually) or keep pushing myself through this and last the remaining 3.5 years to finally get into translation and spend my lifetime hoardings on that?
Thank you
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