Hey all. My giveaway for Orcs Must Die 2 Complete Pack just ended. I scoped out the winners' game listings to verify that they don't already own the game in question. One winner owns the Orcs Must Die 2 regular game. Is his win considered legit?

I question it because once he receives the Complete Pack, he will get the DLC items, but then obtain the Orcs Must Die 2 standalone in his own inventory to regift to his desire (or at least that's how I assume steam works).

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You should reroll.

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+1

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i think you are able to get a reroll not sure tho tbh..

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Some people are against entering giveaways if they already own the base game, some allow it. It's for you to decide.

From what I know, you don't get a second copy of OMD2 if you get the complete pack.

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I think it's the one stipulation you're allowed to put on public giveaways. It's up to the giver to decide if someone who owns part of it can win... and that can depend on the game. Something like Dungeon Defenders Collection is something you might allow someone to win who only owns the base game, because there is SO MUCH DLC.

Personally, I would send in a support ticket asking for that winner to be re-rolled.

Also, it's very rare that if you activate a pack that includes a game you already have that you get an extra copy.

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Yes, there are games where the DLC far eclipses the price of the game itself. The combined DLC alone for games like Dungeon Defenders and Gratuitous Space Battles cost more than the price of their "complete" collections.

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The winner would only get the DLC added on his account to the existing base game. It's up to you to decide if you're okay with it. If you don't agree with this, then ask for a reroll.

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According the FAQ/Rules and Guidelines you have a right to ask for a re-roll.

  • Don't enter for games you already own.

Orc Must Die 2 Complete Pack will not give the person an extra copy of the game if they already have it in their library.

It is my opinion that you should give it to someone who doesn't already have the game and who hasn't violated any SG rules.

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Does that rule apply to entering for things you partially own?

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for this game I would request a re-roll. there's not that much DLC at this point. it seems a waste to give it to someone who already has the base game. it's up to you but just my opinion

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He wont get a copy of the game to regift, it gets wasted unless its on some list somewhere that I'm too lazy to link to.
In the end in these situations I think it's up to you if you want a re-roll or not.

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I would call it morally irresponsible but would have to ask a mod or something i dont honestly know but i would reroll

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Typically you reroll when that happens unless you specifically allow it

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"but then obtain the Orcs Must Die 2 standalone in his own inventory to regift to his desire (or at least that's how I assume steam works)."

very poor assumption, and totally wrong

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I just bought an on-sale game pack, and it warned me that I already owned some of the content, and told me to read a bit about duplicates on a support page.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4502-TPJL-2656

According to that support page, there are only four games where you get a regiftable copy if you already own them before buying a compilation pack that includes them: Left 4 Dead when you buy the L4D/L4D2 bundle, Half-Life 2 when you buy Orange Box or Valve Complete Pack, Half-Life 2: Episode One when you buy the Episode Pack or Orange Box or Complete Pack, and Dawn of War II when you buy DoWII Gold. Further, while HL2 and HL2:E1 have multiple packs, you can only get one regiftable copy of each.

I don't know how current that page is, but it sounds like regiftable copies of duplicates are the extremely rare exception, mostly done by Valve, and fairly restricted even there.

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he would get all the dlc which is unfair to other people so reroll it mate :)

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It's always unfair to other people when someone wins...
This isn't about fair; it's about the base game being lost - that's sad :'(

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As others in this thread have pointed out, complete packs generally don't credit extra copies to your inventory unless explicitly stated in the steam store page. Regarding the prior ownership of base game issue, I do believe that it is one of the few conditions that are left to the discretion of the giver, even in a public giveaway. While it would have been nice for you to specify how much of the pack they are allowed to possess, I don't believe it is actually a requirement to request a re-roll.

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It's up to you, I personally think you should reroll since he has the base game, and if he finished the base game might not play or just try the new traps and stop playing.

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People who do not want to gift a complete pack to the owners of the base game state this fact on their giveaway description. This is the only allowed rule for public giveaways. If you didn't state this beforehand, there isn't much to do, unless you talk this over with the winner and he/she agrees. Or you can refuse to send it and he/she can mark it as not received.

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Why? It doesn't need to state that beforehand.

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I disagree. The rules state you can't enter a giveaway for a game already owned. The winner owns the game. He may lack the DLC, but he owns the game already.

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But the giveaway is not for the game, it's for the complete pack...

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Unless Steam specifically states it, they will not give extra copies of any game or place anything into an inventory.

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The combined cost of the DLC is equal to the cost of the game. It's up to you to decide whether to give him the pack or ask for a reroll. If I had to make that choice, I'd look at the content included in the DLC. If it's enough to justify the price, I'd give him the pack.

As for precedent, yes, there is. When giving big packs, people will generally mention what part of the pack can be owned at most in order to win. For stuff like the Dungeon Defenders pack, I've often seen rules like "You're allowed to enter if you have the base game and no more than 3 DLCs".

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He don't get another OMD2 copy just the DLCs. Basically you're losing the base game to a person who already have it, it's kinda sad.

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Closed 11 years ago by Bahamut2581.