Do you save-scum, you scum!?
I save scummed for Bloodborne, got all three endings in one go, easy peasy.
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I'm going to call saving and reloading a different thing and say people are bad for it even though the developers made it that way.jpg
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When you think about it that way, you do have a point, but I'm going to clarify just in case that I'm not telling people it's wrong to do that since I do it too, and I definitely think that it's wrong to shame anyone for doing it.
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The term kind of implies shaming. I know you didn't mean it that way. I just think we shouldn't even use terms like that, for obvious reasons. I mean, you can tell by the reception of it here in the thread. ;)
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I generally don't take that term too seriously. Although, I definitely should have known that there were going to be people who thought of that term differently than me.
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Yes, losing a unique card sucked, but the rule-spreading mechanic was super obnoxious.
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Something I once talked to my friend about while I was playing Deus Ex: Mankind Divided.
Let's say I'm trying to play as a strictly stealthy play for the Ghost and Smooth Operator bonues. BUT whenever I'm caught sneaking around, I'm immediately shot to death, then it auto reloads to a state right before my death. I keep playing this way until I beat the mission with all the stealth bonuses.
Am I save scumming? XD
This really happened often but I didn't really care if I'm good at being stealthy or not.
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ive actually never done that. heck i barely save cuz i forget but the game doesnt let me forget when it crashes i got to restart hours worth of content. but actually just remembered its a lie. i kept reloading my save when i had to get lulu items in ffx and i didnt want to restart the 200 dodges!
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I do it only when I feel cheated by the game. Like when something takes for ages to do and you can mess it up at the very end by mistake, or because the dialogue line says something like "decline", but the character ends up saying "fuck you" and everything goes bad.
I once did something similar at an online game of Talisman. There was a server glitch and I had to redo my turn, but this time I picked the best move possible. I was so ashamed, I dropped off the game.
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I save-scum for multiple endings. No, I'm not replaying your dumb tutorial, sir game.
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Depends on the game, only when it saves me several boat-loads of time.
Take the old King's Quest games (or any Sierra games of that age) for example. Save in the wrong place or after missing something and you have to start all over. I also had a PSX memory card dedicated to Chrono Cross saves but that was somewhat required to get all the characters.
If there's anything luck-based in the game I'll do it with no regrets though. There were a couple different Dragon Warrior/Quest games on the NES that had a lottery or casino area that would just beg you to save/reload as-needed to get the items you could only get there. Especially Dragon Quest 2 that had hard to find lottery tickets instead of spending money.
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Usually just when achievement hunting rather than simply trying to beat a game...
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Why does such a derogatory term have to be applied? You are playing for fun, not to beat some imaginary or real records, not to impress anyone. Save as much, and whenever you want.
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Like I said to someone before you, just in case, I didn't meant to come off as shaming people for doing that. I didn't thought I was using the term the wrong way.
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I have to say I always save scum and didn't even know it was considered a 'bad thing'. Like a lot of games are unclear about if an action is permanent or will result in something happening, so if something unexpected happens and I don't like it, I'm definitely going to do it. Undertale got me real good on that one though, I had no idea you could be non-violent originally and my husband tricked me into trying to start over when I realised. It was traumatic...
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In roguelikes: never.
In other games: basically all the time.
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The reason why playing Total War games took such a toll on me :E
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save often and save early ...
(and DO BACKUPS!! don't trust that unreliable wannabe oversized calculator claiming to be skynet relative salty sand thing)
otherwise ... try to enjoy what has been given to you!
Thanks for the ga
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Save scumming is usually copying your saved game file to another directory, to circumvent auto-deletion (or auto-whatever). Usually in perma-death rogue-likes and such. Anytime you try to circumvent the saving (or lack thereof) system that devs implemented is save scumming.
Came here to say the same thing.
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The only real re-loading saves I ever did that I can remember of is recently in No Man's Sky trying to RNG for ships that I wanted (more slots, design). That took about 4 hours, I blame the game, but what else are you going to do in it.
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Welp. I guess I got the wrong definition the wrong time...
Still, thanks for clearing that up. :)
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Most of the time just to get another achievement instead of having to replay the game over and over again. Sadly not possible to do so in some games since there's no manual save.
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Coming from someone with 21 years of solid gameplay under their belts, I have no idea what "save-scumming" means.
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My RNG is too good for that. :c I got a LVL 2 legendary pistol off of the first mini-boss in Borderlands 2 on my first run... that's just one really stupid example.
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there's only one way to save-scum, and that's what narayan pointed out.
"abusing" the save/load system isn't cheating or "save-scumming". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Yeah, just saw that post.
...That said, I'm too lazy now to change the title of the thread. :P
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The only time I can remember save-scumming is in Borderlands to get the inventory slots instead of a garbage mod.
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Oh, good point. There's a claptrap in a DLC that is supposed to give you another backpack upgrade but on PC he's broken and hardly ever gives you the correct item. That would be a reason to reload a save for sure.
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Starting out in Xenonauts recently. If I die to my own avoidable mistakes, I try to live with it. If the first person out of my dropship immediately gets turned to paste due to a burst of reaction-fire literally at the doors, I'll load. ;P
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Aaargh. Scrap that. Night missions + bad RNG = mashing the load button.
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So here I am again with another one of my questions! And now I wanted to know if you have ever indulged in the practice of save-scumming, and in how much did you indulged?
If you're looking for multiple endings then this is unavoidable, but when talking more in the lines of a first playthrough: Maybe you regretted a choice you made in a story driven game and wanted to change it? Or maybe you didn't like the random piece of loot you got in an RPG? Or maybe you just want to do everything perfectly from the beginning? That's the stuff I want to know!
In my case, I try to keep my playthrough as clean as possible, but the majority of the time I have fallen victim to the temptation of save-scumming, so maybe you did better than me? XD
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