Is it rude?
It is not rude and completely up to you. But I think it would be courteous to mention to the blocked person that this is what you're doing. Then they're not left wondering if they've done something wrong, or offended you, etc.
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That´d be swell, if not for the fact that anything you say on SG´s get´s you blacklisted left & right anyway.
Most of the time you´ll just ninja it out ¯ _(ツ)_/¯
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It's your blacklist and your giveaways. Do as you see fit with both.
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It's fine, but if you're worried, it might be better to leave a short P/S in your GA description mentioning that winners will be blacklisted from future GAs.
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Actually, it's more common than you think. I'd say don't bother as is very unlikely for one user to win two or more gifts from the same gifter, but it's up to you anyways. Notice that you won't be able to join their giveaways if you block them.
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You can't join GAs from users you blacklisted?
Just wondering was that always the case?
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That would be unfair if you could enter a GA from a person on your blacklist.
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It depends... if I blacklist someone cause he didn't play by the rules, for example leaking links to private GAs and stuff like this, then I don't know why it would be unfair if I get punished too, cause I didn't do anything wrong (ok let's be onest you don't have to do something wrong to get blacklisted, I wasn't active for ~2 years and got blacklisted during this period). But I understand that this is a very debatable topic.
But I already found a post about that two way blacklist thingy, like I said I wasn't active for like 2 years and when the blacklist was implemented it wasn't two ways.
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Think on the side of the blacklisted people, they make a GA then you enter and win. Do you think they will really give a gift to you, the person that blacklisted them? I don't see this happening unless the blacklisted is a saint and don't mind this.
Maybe they changed the rules because something like this happened before. Who knows. =]
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I never minded being one-way blacklisted. As long as they didn't act in such a repulsive manner that they were problematic for me and other entrants to be around, why should I care whether they have me blacklisted or not? I mean, if you host parties in real life, do you stress over if every visitor is going to reciprocate party invites to you in the future? That sounds like a rather awkward and wasteful use of mental resources.
Again, if they didn't cause me problems, why shouldn't they have the same odds as anyone else toward my non-whitelist giveaways? Frankly speaking, if we're not sharing the same low-user-count groups, it's not like I was likely to win from them anyway. Admittedly, given how often I hover at capped P, I could see an argument for self-serving considerations, but those considerations would be negated by the fact that I'm unlikely to enter the giveaway of a typical user to begin with [given that I already have a well-established library, and only enter for highly wishlisted games or games I intend to play soon].
Really, fairness, perceptions of saintlyness, none of that should factor in unless you're approaching things stressfully to begin with. That's not to say that fairness in a broader sense isn't of the utmost merit, just that this isn't exactly the most important matter to stress over.
Though, once the mutual blacklisting kicked in, I recall my blacklist stat dropping by half... So you could say that the change cleared up some disfavorable sentiments.. on the other hand, now it's that much harder to determine who those greed-minded individuals are [and given the expected associations of such a mentality, I don't imagine too many of them were creating meaningful giveaways in the first place].
In short, there's stress to be found in any arrangement for the matter, so it's best to just not worry about it too much. :P
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Yeah, that has been the case for like a year and a half. Here's the official announcement: https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/uWdUq/two-way-blacklists
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All good. But the chances are pretty low, and you may end up maxing your blacklist count in the future, haha.
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You made me remember that there was a site that someone made that told you from whom you have won the most GAs and who won the most GAs from you, but I can't remember it's name to search for the thread. Does this ring any bell for somebody? Would be nice finding it again.
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http://sgwhitelist.azurewebsites.net (original thread), but it doesn't seem to be working anymore.
Judging from the timing, I guess it's got something to do with the recent SG server changes.
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Yep, that's the one, thanks for finding it for me. It's a pity it no longer works, I would like to know my current results.
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I was pretty disappointed by it going down as well. ercalote is still active on SG, though, so maybe they can be convinced to update the site at some point. ^.^
Since it's a dedicated service-associated thread and the user is active, the usual considerations toward avoiding necroing can be put aside; So, if you're inclined to follow up with ercalote, here's the link to the associated thread for the tool >>.
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It's up to you who you blacklist, but I'm sure some users will blacklist you too if you blacklist them.
Also it's very unlikely that someone wins two GAs, cause you have like a 0.2% or often even less chance to win a public GA, so the chance to win two public GAs from the same person ist exactly...oh my calculator just broke otherwise I would tell you the exact value but it's a very very small chance, so why even bother blocking the winner and risk getting blacklisted.
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I had somebody who won three games from me. And they blacklisted me. To be fair that was from a train rather than public giveaways though...
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Wait what, they blacklisted you after they won something from you?
Some people are just weird.
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That happened multiple times, it is just mainly just the person who won three games and blacklisted me that I'm still tetchy about.
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Clearly they thought they had won too many giveaways from you, and had blacklisted you to make sure that they wouldn't win anymore. That's totally logical and makes sense.
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Oh, that's happened to you as well? :P
..though usually it's just them not saying thank you even once on any of them. >.>
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Did you find out about the blacklisting by checking their profile? Or is there now a way to see who has blacklisted you?
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I'm doing it for my event for some people. I've had it happen in reverse to me as well. Understandable and reasonable thing to do.
Just a suggestion, but communicate to them why you're blacklisting them - that might be an idea, so they're not wondering what they may have done wrong... the person that did it to me never gave an explanation... so it kinda bothered me.
Other than that idea, I'd say it's perfectly fine! I mean, you can be totally rude and not communicate, but I'd advise it based on experience.
Communication gets us places in the world... and the lack of it is what causes problems. :3
Logical discussion makes things so much easier... but many humans lack the capacity to be honest with themselves and others... rather sad and unfortunate...
Best of luck and I hope you enjoy it if you decide that's what is best for you. That's the bottom line probably. Do what's best for you! :)
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To be honest, I don't see the issue if that's what you want to do, although, as other people have said, it's highly unlikely that the same person will win from you again in public giveaways. :)
I haven't blacklisted anyone, but I could definitely see it being an attractive option toward people who leech and give nothing back to the community. lol. Although, just raising the level limit alone tends to weed a lot of those out.
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You are allowed to bl for any reason you want. do what you feel is the best and dont let others tell you what to do. Its your giveaways.
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I swear it was just a couple days ago I saw someone on here asking if they did anything wrong to get blocked after they won a game, thinking it was their fault.
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Nobody can answer you if that is supposed to be rude or not, you can blacklist anybody for any reason or for no reason at all. Personally I believe that blacklisting winners with intention that they should never win again from you is a bit foolish, since it doesn't really achieve anything. Your winner can't even post thanks under the giveaway if you blacklist him immediately after receiving key, and can't make up for the situation in case the key gets revoked or something similar happens. I believe that statistics do the right job, and if somebody was so lucky that he won my giveaway, I don't see a reason for blacklisting him, considering the fact that he's very unlikely to win again, and taking away that small hope from him is not worth it, as a lot of people take blacklisting personally. I don't see a reason why I should explicitly exclude winners from my future giveaways if they didn't do anything wrong, you're not going to equally distribute your giveaways anyway, and if you want some specific group of people to participate, you always have WL, groups and invite only giveaways for that. In fact, I'd be far more encouraged to make public giveaways for everybody, find winners that appreciate the gifts they won (you define the rules on that), and give all of them better chances in your selected WL giveaways, as a token of appreciation.
But like I said on the beginning, it's your call. Just because I personally find it a bit foolish doesn't mean that I don't respect people doing so, I can understand their reasoning.
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Well, I would say that its not an issue. You would like to give others more chance that had not won giveaway from you. This is a personnel thinking and nobody can really judge it.
It's your own giveaway, so just enjoy gifting your way :D
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I generally don't block anyone. However, I'm worried that if I do, with the number of GAs I do, I'll end up giving one person more than one giveaway. Is it rude to block people for that reason?
ETA: Thanks for the feedback! I think I'll just leave it be, unless I start noticing a name coming up repeatedly.
ETA 2: Since I've decided I'm not blocking anyone, I think I'll close the thread. Thanks for all the input, guys!
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