I often read here on how people sometimes talk about having no money, no job, and how sometimes i read people with a job telling others how easy it is for others to get one, but it is not always that easy for some, i know that struggle very well.
I dropped out of school when i was 15 due reasons, then worked in construction because my father worked there, did alot of home schooling and got alot of computer related certificates, but i needed a driver's license to go to places, but i kept failing it, but i always kept myself open to any kind of job.

Anyway it's hard for me to even get an interview but i finally managed to get one again on friday, and hope finally for a change in the positive so my life can continue to grow positive in other directions too, plus side this one is also very closeby and doable by bike (so no transportation costs).

Discuss, if you have a job what do you do for a living, is it what you wanted to do? If you don't have a job, what is it you want to do?
Does not having a job holding you back in other things in life (like a relationship), does it depress you?
This topic is not just for or about me, if it can give some hope to someone, inspire someone, if you feel stuck, don't mind sharing it.

I forgot the No, retired/won the lottery, can't work option.

Peter Gabriel/Kate Bush - Don't give up or this version

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Do you have a job?

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Yes, i work hard for my money!
No, and it's hard to find one.
No, i let others support me.
No, i am still in school.

I work too much. Air traffic controller related technical systems. ILS, radar tracking, metrological systems, air to ground and ground to ground radio communication systems but lately mostly managing the servers and networking infrastructure to keep all the information needed flowing. My salary is crap for this amount of responsibility but I'll never be out of work unless I want to :P

Edit: I don't get why so many put value judgments in their polls. Not that it's particularly important but it makes it hard to pick an appropriate answer if one wanted to. I have a wee bit of a problem saying that I work hard. I working quite a lot at times but I wouldn't say it's particularly hard work.

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Well being able to edit polls would also come in handy sometimes, polls are not for science either.

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I would like a job but minimum experience required is 5 years in my industry for all jobs and it's ridiculous.
Additionally, I recently got fired so I'm terrified I'll never be able to find a job again. :/
I'm definitely trying, though.

I hope your interview goes well.

I wish everyone else luck! ♥

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Don't despair and keep the faith. :)

Thanks and good luck to you too.

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I've studied modern literature after highschool, went through it until the 1st year of Master (4 years in Uni) and dropped, because I realized the only thing I could do would be teaching and that's something I don't want. Then, I studied other things,dropped everything and was unemployed for quite some time.
I got the chance to apply for a job in a research centre as a secretary/research assistant - they were looking for some kind of glorified secretary, able to speak english and with at least a Licence (so, 3 successful years in Uni). First, they said no - my bf was working there and they didn't want us to work together, or so was I told. I hit rock bottom, went through "I can manage this situation" to a "I'm worthless".
6 months later, this centre called me again... They couldn't find anyone, went through "real" secretaries who didn't fit what they wanted and I was hired.
It's far from a dreamjob but some things in there are really interesting - not the secretary stuff, that's the awful part of it - but I do translations, I organize meetings, got to go to conferences...
After a few months here, I started to get sad again, started to picture myself 10 years later as a secretary and that drove me mad. So, I tried to put everything in perspective with some help and figured out that the research part of my job was something I'd like to do more.
So, after talking to my boss about it (I'll need a much shorter contract regarding hours if I'm really doing this) I've applied to Uni (again!)

Sorry, it took so long - what I wanted to say is: I'm not sure a lot of people know what they want from the start, sometimes you have to try things, fail or not, you'll figure it out someday... Hell, I went from studying literature to working in a mental health research centre (with some shitty fastfood jobs along the way)...

Here is something

Wish you the best of luck for friday, really hope it will go smoothly and you'll get the job!

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Thank you for the wish and story, hope you will find that what makes you happy too. :)

Is it okay to add your giveaway (kinda fitting name for those struggling) /post link to the op? Or you want to remain it more "hidden"?

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Do whatever you like with it! Either way, it's fine by me

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Thanks.

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Fixed. ;) Hope she didn't see it. :}

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Good luck on friday! I wish you all the best!

I am also working, being a student abroad, my parents can't afford to help with my expenses, but I am doing pretty good on myself, so far, I found a good paying job in a JYSK wearhouse and this summer I'm trying to save as much as I can xD

I am finishing my first year at Software Engineering and also started a few days ago to learn Android, my dream is to make a life from apps.

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Thank you and good luck to you too. :)

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I literally just got my new job since I moved to Florida in February 2 weeks ago, working at a gas station training to be assistant manager. It's not bad, the people are pretty nice, and the money (once promoted) will be better than I made as the assistant at a dollar store back in Michigan ($1 more an hour plus less taxes). Since I was a kid until now I have had MANY professional dreams. I wanted to be a teacher, fashion designer, home designer, cake designer, baker, bakery owner, restaurant owner, chef, and gamer/streamer/youtuber. As of right now, I want to be all EXCEPT any owners of stores or a teacher. But yeah.. I'd love to do any of the others still :3 I'm trying to work on the last one, once my boyfriend and I get enough saved up for our own place again then I will work on streaming and making youtube videos again. But yeah... I doubt I'll ever have a job that I love again (I was once a seamstress and LOVED that job but boss screwed me over financially). But, hey, I'm only 21, I have a lot of time to see what life gives me!

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Don't have, hold me back in pretty much everything and is depressing. I already deal with chronic depression so its pretty much 'raining on wet' (trying an probably failing to translate a brazilian saying). At least my meds help.

I failed at getting my design degree by very little but with that lost my scholaship so i have to pay part of my debt while finding a job without a degree(always harder as OP said). Design should have been a field where degree was less of a matter but turns out many opportunities good for starters are run by old fashioned people where degree counts a lot- and spending my entire time studying my ass off i simply didn't agregate any portfolio of worth.
It will be a slow crawl.

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Due to familiar reasons (I'm not evil lol), I barely could leave the house. In 2016 I begin to trust my parents that if I'm not in home, they wouldn't kill each other (literally). My brother has some type of Asperger (don't know exactly the medical term of his condition), so, I had/have the responsabilty to ensure my brother's present and future.
So, I risked my future for the present from 2009 to today, and now I find it real hard to insert myself into the society and get a job, do stuff that normal people do.

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might as well

wanted to do an Ausbildung as an IT guy, didn't work out cause I started applying too late, more or less average grades and miserable application writing. worked at the factory where my dad was working for a few months, earned some serious dosh but I knew that I need that Ausbildung for the future, so I decided to go into a program that supports young people who have difficulties finding an Ausbildung
ended up as micro technologist, almost done with my first year, still think I am messing everything up, but it works out quite nice actually.

and yes, getting "we are sorry, but..." over and over fucking depresses you to shite

will add definition of Ausbildung later if wished

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I think you mean apprenticeship

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Or Trainee.

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apprenticeship on drugs

like you work, but you also go to school

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beekeeper. started 2 years ago with 1 bee hive, now i have 16. though to be legally recognized as one you need to have at least 40 bee hive, so im technically unemployed for the state. started this activity after doing any kind of jobs since I was 17, after my father got ill and was unable to provide for the family (which forced me to drop school). i did pizza maker, dishwasher, chef assistant, leafleting, farm worker (most likely the hardest one), warehouse worker, construction worker, and others. anything was good. after years of temporary jobs i had a decent amount of money saved for the future, so i decided to invest them, hopefully by placing the foundation for building a better future for me and the people i love.

good luck for the interview

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Holding bees, sounds like a fun job, but i am sure you bound up to get stung eventually? Also bees seem to "mysteriously die" all over the world, did you ever had problems with that?

Thank you.

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yes it happens, though there are protections and various arrangements to prevent it from happening. but yes well its a risk related to the job after all, the least thing one can expect.

the so called "beepocalipse" was related to the usa and canada, mostly because the local beekeepers were unprepared against the filthy varroa, a parasite that can destroy the population of an hive in a very short time if the beekeeper does not intervene promptly, and can be transmitted from a colony to one other though sick bees plundering other hives. never had ploblem with it by taking the appropriate precautions, although i had a problem with pesticides the last year. had the population of 4 hives halved because of it, just during full sping (there may be even 100k of bees in a single hive during sping, it was a total mess)

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Beekeeper sounds really interesting. I hope that you can make a living from it and that you get legally recognized some day.

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thank you, yes, it is very interesting. the world of bees is very fascinating.

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still in school and may I say uni is expensive as fuck

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Ever since Im done with school, I didn't had a job, and now Im getting my 3rd profession (is this the correct word?) in hope so I can get a job.

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Finally found a job after 3 years of searching... Starting tomorrow... for 500 euro a month... 16h work shift... only 1 day off a week... please kill me

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Sounds awful, but grats on atleast having a job? What job is it?

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Pretty much a slave in a supermarket... I just pray for the 4 months to pass fast, idk how i"ll stand with 6h sleep with 0 free time...

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Yes, part-time CS. The only reason I applied was because it's a work-at-home position so my social awkwardiness doesn't get in the way too much. Both a blessing and a curse - I'm more comfortable at work than if I had any other job, but I also reduce my human interaction to a minimum so I'll never get comfortable around people.

Still though, I actually got better at the whole "people" thing since I got my job almost two years ago. Yay me?

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Depends a lot of your country...sadly :(

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I recently started a job at my college's scholarship office and it pays minimum wage but it'll go up to $10 in July. I went through about 4 interviews and 15 applications before getting accepted. I thought I'd never get a job for the summer, but I kept applying and going to interviews and now I have this super laid-back job. I'm still in college finishing my degree but front-end web development is my dream position.

My advice would be to keep looking no matter what. I have a weird trait of refusing to stop even if I feel defeated. I got rejected at 3 jobs but for some reason I kept going and landed this job.

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First off, good luck for the interview, Lugum! :-)

Originally I wanted to do something maths related, but with the IT sector booming in the late 90ies that desire moved towards this. But since my parents weren't able to pay for studies and didn't even discuss that reason with me then, I had to leave school with just a secondary school certificate. Limited by this I applied mostly for bank, authority and office jobs, and finally ended up in a training at our local employment agency. While my interest on the job was growing over the time, the training itself wasn't well organized (mostly theoretically, rarely practicing). After I had passed the exams I got an indefinite contract (one of the few advantages within the public service) and was working nearly four years there. It really helped me to improve on working with customers and also sharpened my social skills.
But limited by laws and sometimes bad instructions it can be very frustrating to see motivated people trying to find just any job, while others abuse the system by not doing anything or even working illegally. And like everywhere else, the team structure and the atmosphere are important. In the first two years after the training I worked in a small agency with mostly young and motivated colleagues. After that I got back to the central office with the typical authority feeling (long and depressing corridors, everyone working on its own in his/her small room).
In the end I noticed that I couldn't do this for the rest of my life and therefore planned to go back to school, get my A level and try to get into the IT sector. However, I had other issues at that time and totally underestimated the effect of even a small unemployment break (and I really should have known better). Instead of two or three months it became a whole year (had a few unskilled jobs, but nothing mentionable). Luckily one year later I was still able to get a place in a school and I passed it way better than I'd have expected it before. The applications for another training as computer scientist were without success, so I started to study informatics. Since I couldn't afford it and had no side job at that time, I applied again the next year and finally found a company which still offered trainings for people at an age of 25 or more. I passed and got an indefinite contract again, though I had to leave my home town (I expected and wanted this to a degree) to a customer's headquarters town (not expected). I've been working on this job (application support, originally only tendered for alums) now for more than five years and I love it for its complexity. The atmosphere is good and working in shifts has advantages and disadvantages. From a financial view it's great, but the location still often annoys me. I haven't become a developer, but at least I made it into the IT sector and I wouldn't want to miss the earlier experiences.

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Thank you.

What i didn't tell so far yet, is i was once promised (in fact i had many (job) promises broken to me) to work a job in IT by the boss of this company himself, but they needed someone available to train me, i kept in contact once a month or so, i even learned a bit of JAVA in the meantime, he kept telling me they didn't had anyone available yet, until he stopped replying at all.
Some breaks people seem to have, never happened so far to me.

Is moving not an option? Atleast you got somewhere in the IT Sector.

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Yeah, promises of personnel manager count anything, even more if they're only vocalised. On the other hand if you would request promises in written form, they would laugh and turn away directly. A good working employee organization can help you advancing inside a company, but on the outside you can't rely on anything.

The applications I support are very specific. They're used at several places in the world, but the support groups are centralized. In the town I'd like to move to there are only a few people working on it, so chances are very low for a vacant post.
Of course, I could apply for other IT jobs at other companies there, but I like the current job, I'm earning well and the company I'm working for is a desired one, so I won't risk it. The "synthetic" city here is the only trade-off.

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I am very fortunately to have a job (in IT).
Best of luck to you, Lugum, and to anybody else looking for a job.

And, a giveaway.

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Thank you for the wish and giveaway, added to op. :)

What job in IT?

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Web developer for a (USA) government contractor.

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I'm not really sure what you want to hear.

I've been working since I was 12 years old, fling stuff in an office. In between, I did everything from warehouse laborer, beach-bum, ice cream maker, airline catering, athlete (didn't do very well), writer, musician, actor, voice actor, entertainment, insurance, finance, business consultant, tech/IT, and a whole lot more.

Today, I'm a lawyer, I spend part of my time doing educational seminars for the general public, and part of my time figuring out how to help people not get screwed by the government.

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p.s. I got a lot of jobs just by having a lot of balls. If ever someone wants to chat about the kind of things that worked for me, I'm happy to discuss

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Almost sounds like. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0264464/

Yeah you expect for some of those jobs to have some skill/training/knowledge.

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Part of it is luck, part of it is personality. Part of it was just needing a job and not being too picky, like the time I spent cleaning toilets at the beach. But I could always find a job, whenever I needed it, by knowing how to look. And I usually was able to find jobs that paid more than my friends or, the one time I found the same job as my friend, I got paid more - because I asked for more

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But while ice cream maker, catering, acting doesn't require much experience, insurance, business consultant and IT how you'd did that with i assume not all education or experience but on personallity.. i'd be curious. Though if you can act, you can also more easily fake and pretend things.
Will see how the interview goes else i'd might just add you and ask how you did it, and give me some tips.

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Insurance is mostly sales, so if you show determination and the ability to bullshit, it helps. I got hired with the requirement that I get licensed quickly. The job was horrible

Finance was an easy swing. I was at someone's house, sipping on martinis when this guy said he just started a new company doing something in finance that I didn't really understand. I basically talked my way into coming on as his first employee, and originally was a glorified coffee-boy. I spent all my free time reading as much as I could about what he did, and as the company grew, so did my role in it.

IT is a cheat. After working the above job, someone was talking to me about an idea he had for a new business in finance. His idea was fairly limited but there was something there, and I worked through some possibilities, and eventually came up with a very different idea for which I eventually gathered partners and we became a tech startup.

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I am a NOC technician for amazon. I have several certs in different areas and have worked various roles in the IT field. However, I am transitioning into the 3D modeling/visual effects since my wife has a career in VFX.

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Right place right time (era) for Me.

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Discuss, if you have a job what do you do for a living,

I am a Technical Director for a major televison broadcast network. I'm one of the folks who sit in the spaceship looking room with monitors and glowing buttons from floor to ceiling. The job encompasses a variety of responsibilities between Master Control Operations and Engineering. Examples include: live on-air newcasts/events, ingesting of commercial and promotional materials, preparation and segmenting of syndicated programming, automation operations (curating the on-air playlists), various signal tuning, live severe weather and special report cut-ins, as well as general problem solving related to making a myriad of systems communicate with each other effectively. I currently run 6 channels simultaneously (2 major and 4 ancillary). It's high pressure, but I really enjoy it.

is it what you wanted to do?

Good question. I wasn't really aware of the TV industry, despite my Mass Communication degree. My main concentration was Cinema, so while I was technically proficient in a studio setting, I had never experienced the pace of 24/7 television. In 2011, I started working in TV about a year after graduating, freelance editing and substitute teaching just weren't cutting it financially. After a few years and several promotions, I really grew into the work. About this time last year, I switched networks for the killer position that I am in now. For the first time in my life, I can say that I am very comfortable both economically and career-wise. I have plenty of upward opportunity available in my current position, as well as the general ability to utilize this skill set and job experience almost anywhere in the world. This certainly isn't what I set out to do when I was 18, but it's a place I am quite happy to have ended up. I definitely see myself staying within the industry for the foreseeable future. I think a big part of finding your "dream job" is being open to parallel opportunities and the willingness to try new things. Chances are, your "dream job" will look a lot different during the various stages of your life.

Does not having a job holding you back in other things in life (like a relationship), does it depress you?

Most definitely. I have felt the crushing anxiety that comes along with unemployment, it is a vicious cycle that quickly leads to depression. It puts unhealthy financial pressure on every single relationship in your life. I think this is a crucial problem with our capitalistic mindset. There is a societal tendency to dismiss unemployed people as lazy, dumb, and altogether sub-human. Which is silly, because nearly every person is only a few bad breaks away from unemployment. Instead of being honest about this, a lot of people prefer to pretend that they are "temporarily embarrassed millionaires." Again, this is merely a symptom of the larger problem with our unsustainable economy.

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Sounds like a very interesting job, and sounds you got lucky with the job you got.
Sidenote when you got an university degree sometimes you do sometimes get a few more options (because companies think oh hey he/she got no experience but they must have the brains, so let's give them a chance anyway).
Here with an university study, if you can't find something in your field, you can always (re)educate yourself to become a teacher.

A normal teaching education would take years, same as for becoming a cop, while in America i believe it's more open and way more quicker to do (atleast what tv.. is making us think) if we had it here (and perhaps with other jobs too) it be easier for some to get a job.

I totally agree on how people with a job tend to dismiss (or look down) on people without a job, even your family (like aunts and uncles) but none of them you come across, ever would actually try offering you a job.
No matter your education, experience or age, losing your job can always happen to anyone, at any time.

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Yep, I've lost my job many times. Only twice was it really my fault.

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I've made a cheap GA train a few days ago where i said i dont have a job and i'm searching.
Today i will go to an interwiev. :)
I'm so excited. It's a internet marketing job. And it is in my city. So it would be really cool. :)
Heads up everybody. Miracles can happen! :)

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Good luck!

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Good luck, let us know if you got it.

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Well, they are not hiring right now, but they liked me, so they well call me in this week if i can work with them or not :)
I would be really happy. :)

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Good luck! :)

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