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That feeling when you can never get the case to close correctly ever again.

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Not without superglue, at least.

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The fact that the solder part of the thumbstick it's in a separate pcb and not in the main motherboard is a very good idea for long term repairs without desolder + recalibration , i hope future playstation\xbox\nintendo controllers will apply this too so not force people to rebuy the full controller or mobile console at full price when the thumbstick will start lose precision for worn component or stop work.

Also the fact that it's possible to use other controllers it's awesome too...
People that buy a nintendo switch lite (or a ps5\xboxones|x) it' forced to use\buy branded controller only for 1 console (and recently they is very expensive too around $50\74 if original) but with steam deck can use whatever controller for xbox or pc this is awesome,huge deal.

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Never going to happen

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Nintendo switch Lite has it already BUT i understand what you mean (Playstation\Nintendo\Xbox controllers not have it and try to force people to rebuy the full controller it' s sort of "business\profitt" move) and i agree with you that probabily will not going to happen (maybe just happen if they have many lawsuit\classactions problems)
in my opinion it's also wrong the fact that consoles try to close the use of different controllers brands,and i think also one day these companies will have problems about this too (Also if now is intend to be legal\right but in future things can change,customers always win at last if\when they wakeup\protest for their rights)

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Valve have been very vocal about how much they put into the thumbsticks to avoid them breaking down (like the Switch has been notorious for). Makes sense to me that they would choose to go with something that allows them to be easily swapped out if something goes wrong. Valve seems to be trying to position the Deck as something that will be viable long term. Steam itself is how they make money, so they want hardware that will keep people buying and playing on it (unlike Sony/MS/Nintendo who make much of their money on hardware - they want you to keep replacing controllers and consoles).

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Thank you so much for your comment,very useful information for me,i miss the talk about valve about this,but very noticed it in the video because i has owner many consoles in my life and i always had problems with the thumbsticks (very bored) then for my lucky i was able to desolder\change them and fix it by myself but personally i would prefer this way same valve do sor of "plug and play\interchangable" pcb\parts,very very good.

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Maybe other companies put out videos like this, but it's new to me. This is a super cool video in my opinion. Thanks for sharing.

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I want more videos like this one from every company too!
Also, the whole thing felt like an "in your face" being shouted at Apple.

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Yeah, I'm kinda feeling that swapping the SSD is doable, but not worth the savings...

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Great, now I'm drooling again. :(

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Happy cakeday !

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must be the cake, happy drool day ;)

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still waiting on half life alex non vr

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Why? From what I've seen without VR the gameplay would suck big time.
Double tap the ground to teleport there 😆 That's something I would expect from a mobile game. Yeah, I know there's 2 other ways to move but none of them seemed good.
Without VR it just seems to be another run-of-the-mill rail shooter.

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+1 HLA just wouldn’t work without VR.

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There is a mod, it is still work in progress.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji9nuBNwTz4

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YUP, what im waiting for

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If you followed the instructions correctly, you have done absolutely none of the preceding steps. XD

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This actually looks fairly simple to work on. It's nice how you can just unscrew and replace the entire joystick assemblies.

It's definitely easier than when I replaced the battery in my iphone 6S. Have to pull the screen off with a suction cup and pry tools to no break it. Prop the screen open part way and disconnect a few tiny ribbon cables in the corner where the screen connects. Remove the glue to replace the battery. Scrape off all the old seal around the edge of screen and phone in the tiny path it follows and then get the new gasket perfectly aligned while putting everything back together.

Apple definitely doesn't want people to be able to replace parts on their phones and tries to stop it, but I was surprised how easily parts are replaceable. I figured it would be like a laptop where almost everything is soldered together, but instead it's all just separate pieces screwed in, so most things are easy to replace (if Apple doesn't lock you out in the software for not paying them to do it or just buying a new phone).

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I'm glad I ordered the top end one. I don't want to open it if I can avoid it. I take it from this that valve looks like they are on the side of right to repair. This is good. If something happens, a local shop should be able to get parts and fix it. If its something minor like a joystick then I should be able to do it. The key is having parts and info available. They hint here that it will be.

I'm so looking forward to this. .... 2nd Q next year.. arg....

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I really enjoyed the part where they were talking about the electrostatic band and how if you don't even know what it is, just leave it to the pro, and then they proceed to show the pro with it on top of a glove rather than skin contact. At least they pointed it out and didn't do retakes so respect in a sense. To me this basically means that you could have a pro repairing your device in a shop and burning your device because they aren't actually wearing it.

Otherwise enjoyed the opening but it's basic stuff I think, I mean I wouldn't want to open it in the first place considering it has a sd card slot, for the price it takes to fix it if it breaks it would be better to send it to the warranty and not void it by opening it myself. By the time it becomes obsolete I'm hoping they will continue making them with much better hardware and of course more space so I don't see a need ever need more than they give you.

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I think it's pretty cool that Valve did their own teardown video. When I get mine in like a year (hopefully) I don't plan on taking it apart. But when it's older I might mess with it.

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They still have no way for me to buy one in Australia so they dont need to worry about me opening one up any time soon.

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It's awesome! 😄

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Why the title how to never? It seems easy and people will do it to swap SSD.

Also i know.. But am i the only one never to use anti static gloves? :x

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Because they tell you in the video not to do it for many reasons. Doctor mentioned one in the first reply.

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I totally agree with right to repair and that users should be able to fix or replace parts themselves....
But on the other hand you have to realize these devices become more and more complex....

Same for cars ... I have engineering degree and have worked as mechanic for some time. I try to fix stuff on cars myself. My older "project" car has been rebuilt almost completely by me .. Did a whole teardown of the engine.
I also have newer diesel cars. I don't even touch them with a ten foot pole. While it is definitely fixable, it's lot more demanding and precise and you need specific knowdledge to do it. Same for laptops and phones and most technological gadgets... While I appreciate you can fix them, for 95% of people it would be highly not recommended even if you are knowledgeable

Think cameras for example - check out any video on fixing busted lenses....... Damn that is such a precise work that it's not even worth it most cases because everything is so precise in there. Anyhow - cool video.

not talking here about scummy practices when even professionals can't fix devices if they are not part of the company. That should be illegal and fined with closing down the company

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I took me way too long to notice the golden companion cube <3

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Yeah right, batteries burst into flames if you look at them. Their lawyers really had a lot to say about that one. If their batteries did burst into flames like that, Steam Decks would be pulled off the market and they'd be sued to hell. Millions of phones and laptops get their batteries looked at and jostled each year, only cheap knockoff replacement batteries are the issue, but it's not mentioned. Those cheap Chinese vapes that were exploding a few years ago, the batteries themselves were defective, not the products containing them.

A lot of the "Right to Repair" is about fighting anti-features which stymie technicians, such as parts being made unavailable, or error codes which require a contractor to come visit in order to press the clear-error button. It does sound like Valve isn't concerned with stopping people from fixing their stuff locally, so this is a step in the right direction, but damn that whole fire safety disclaimer was dishonest and stupid.

It's nice they demonstrated a few of the known weak points, such as the screws not fitting as snugly again. I bet with a dab of screw gap filler, the console techs will solve that problem. Perhaps grounding shields for SSDs will be on the aftermarket parts stores along with the custom thumbstick replacement assemblies.

This response goes more into detail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qVUlO8-cl4

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From what I see, the whole batteries will explode thing is just a tongue in cheek comment, and isn't really a "serious" warning. Yeah batteries accidents are very rare, but them being hyperbolic is better than to ignore the possibility.

The whole video has a "we don't really recommend you to open this, but if you are going to, we're gonna tell you how to properly do it" vibe to it. You gotta remember, not everyone is tech literate, and even less are capable of handling hardware.

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Opening... I most likely never order it (preordered but doubt i need it) :D

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