What the hell?

Oh screw this. If this low grade porn piece of crap can make it onto Steam, I have nothing to fear. I'm finishing my goddamn project

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What is your project?

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tl;dr Audiosurf vs Ace Combat speed times three.

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Ah, I had the impression you would have a adult game in the Pipeline. One that you would define better as this one.

It seems this Impression was wrong :(

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Naaaah. Steam ain't ready for that

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you Sound disapointed?^^

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To a certain degree I was ;)
Good adult games are a rare sight so i was hoping for one.

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Better check out some actual visual novels, like Katawa Shoujo, Grisaia no Kajitsu or If My Heart Had Wings rather than these russian patreon knockoffs.

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He should be. I'd make a great hentai game!

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I said adult, not hentai, so you have to make an adult non hentai game! ;)
And make it good and long lasting, oh yeah :P

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That's easier, I'm better at realistic 3D not 2D chibi

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So a non-porn game with adult content and themes?

... Does that even exist?

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I tried to avoid to say the p word so i instead used adult game.

Porn Studio Tycoon is an example for a non-porn game with adult content and theme.

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Why tho? Porn != adult/mature game or theme, IMO. Should be used exactly because of that.

See, you are correct but kind of missed the point: It is a game that is explicitly about an adult theme, but itself is not pornographic; that is true.

But I was thinking of... I dunno, a game that is like one of those super-serious HBO shows that has to do with drama, romance, murder, sex, relationships.

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I think we missunderstand each other a little bit.

Maybe i use adult in a wrong way in this instance.
In the past if you wanted to rent a porn movie (yes i am that old ;) ) you visited the adult department of the movie rental company not a porn Department.
A cinema who showed porn movies was also called adult theatre.
Adult is basically anything that is allowed and in the context of the start of this i assumed that it is clear what i meant with adult content.

All i wanted to say is i want an Adult game with pornographic content but with actual gameplay/story tied to. It and should be more then just F*** Simulator 2018 too of course.

Think about the movie The Fast and the Furious 2.
Eva Mendes plays as an undercover cop, she sure has to get intimate with the gangster to not blow her cover but in the movie you only assume that.
So thinking in gamplay terms. If you would play her role what would you be willing to do to Infiltrate his organisation in the first place? And would some decision would loead you ending in situations you cant control anymore.

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Oh I get that, especially after re-reading everything... "Mature" is more what I was looking for, as "mature themes" implies things like... I dunno, sex, violence, real-world problems like divorce and family problems...

All i wanted to say is i want an Adult game with pornographic content but with actual gameplay/story tied to.

Well, that is still porn then; and such games do exist. :P

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I never said they did not.
Only there are very few good ones, at least for me because hentai/anime style is not really for me.

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Oh that is fair, most of them are either anime-style or strongly inspired by anime-style (like HuniePop).

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There are some exceptions.
I liked Mirror for example (with uncensor patch).
Decent Match 3 game with short Hentai cliche Storys and some H-Scenes thrown in as well.
Each part on its own would not be any good but all mixed together made a light hearted game with actual gameplay and and approbriate amount of lewdness :)

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Oh, but that is anime-style, no? Mirror seems like typical hentai to me: sexual stuff first, other stuff (in its case, gameplay and story) later.

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As i said… exceptions ;)
What i do not like is the typical Hentai/Anime Story Progression.
I appreciate the art though.

For Mirror i find the mix quite good. And some of the Storys are really funny especially the one with the Ork :)

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Oh, sure. :P
How come? What is the problem with them?
And yes, the art is usually the reason why I stick with them even if I dislike the content^^.

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It is how the Characters act.
Anime/Hentai has some stereotypes and for me it is annoying how this stereotypes react.

Also things like in the new godzilla planet of monsters movie are annoying.
This yelling speeches especially "yellyellyell sad story element yellyellyell existentiel crisis yellyellyell shocking realisation yellyellyell damn enemy i crush you"

Maybe if you speak Japanese the feeling of it is different but i do not speak Japanese though.

TLDR:
I assume it is a cultural thing.

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Ah, true... You can sometimes give it a pass depending on your mood or the execution, but most of the time it is silly, in a bad way. I'm surprised the weebs can tolerate it.

But that's a funny and somewhat unexpected example you gave there, haha. xD

It is a cultural thing, as in, anime culture is its own little niche within Japan... But that niche is (was) influenced by Japanese culture in the first place, whereas nowadays it has kinda become a Flanderization of itself in order to appeal to Otakus, NEETs and to a lesser degree Weebs.

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Yep, exactly

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Oooh, you haven't seen the worst of it yet, hahahah
Steam has gone neckdeep in shitty shovelware lately, worse than the Wii, the DS and your favorite flash games website combined.

BTW good luck with your project, it sounds pretty interesting!

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yeah, there is plenty of shovelware on steam, at least some of those porn games are quality products.

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It's blatantly porn, but why do you see it as low grade? The art quality is quite high and the overall visual presentation is very, very polished and clean. The backgrounds are completely simple but they look fine.

Regardless of your opinion of porn games on Steam, at the end of the day the audio-visual and general "craftsmanship" quality of this VN is far, far better than the garbage-ware stuff that gets spammed on Steam.

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The art (not clean, it's simplistic and inconsistent, and the author has no idea about human body proportions, not talking about boobs btw), the VA (urgh), the writing (typos, mistakes, inconsistent speech patterns, and jumping the shark), the plot device gimmick (accidental incest hypnosis through a random instrument, sure).

Sure, it's better than most of hentai crap that comes to Steam, but at the same time, I am better at running than most wheelchair-bound cripples, doesn't meant much.

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Art is subjective, it looks pretty clean to me... I've seen far, far worse and rougher - and that isn't even relevant, I'd never, ever think "this art is bad" or even "mediocre". I'd honestly just describe it as good, ya know. Proportions and plot device are irrelevant, it is fetishized porn... They can do w/e they want.
Voice acting and writing is flawed, sure... But it's still functional. It's literally broken.

Thus, your analysis is far too harsh - or you're just ignorant of all kinds of garbage (porn or not) that are on Steam... I view every New release (EVERY) on Steam and this is far from being garbage.

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We're discussing this, not "all garbage". We're discussing Snow Daze.

And you're too easy on this. You can't just take the bad stuff and say "it's irrelevant because reasons"."It's their X, they can do whatever they want" allows one to deflect any and all criticism.

Even if disproportional, the art at the very least has to be consistent - it isn't. And yes, art is mostly subjective, but there are also objective characteristics that can be used to judge it.

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We're discussing this, not "all garbage". We're discussing Snow Daze.

True, but calling something (or someone...) "garbage" is far, far too commonplace on the Internet nowadays (for my taste) - and it should be used, IMO, exclusively for the worst of the worst within context. Without context, "garbage" doesn't mean anything to me... If anything, again, it implies that something is the worst of the worst, truly bottom-tier stuff.

With or without context of other games, Snow Daze is not "garbage"; it's just not that bad, neither on an (technical) artistic nor a mechanical level.

And you're too easy on this.

Given the type of garbage I've seen on Steam, I don't think I can agree with that, lol... Also I cycle between optimism and cynicism and this just isn't something to be cynical about.

You can't just take the bad stuff and say "it's irrelevant because reasons".

Eh? It's not "because reasons"... "Character proportions are not realistic and they are not intended to be" is not a throwaway argument, neither is "there are numerous games that are categorically worse by several orders of magnitude, thus making this game be ineligible to be called garbage".

"It's their X, they can do whatever they want" allows one to deflect any and all criticism.

Many people use that in that way, but I didn't - I was explicitly referring to the art being unrealistic; they can indeed do that if they want.

Even if disproportional, the art at the very least has to be consistent - it isn't. And yes, art is mostly subjective, but there are also objective characteristics that can be used to judge it.

This part I agree with - well, to a degree, as there are those artists that are inconsistent by choice; of course, those that are inconsistent due to lack of skill would indeed quality as bad artists.

Anywho, I'll admit: I just skimmed through all of the Store Page screenshots for Summer Daze. So, maybe upon deeper analysis and inspection, I'd see that the art, regardless of style, is inconsistent and technically poor.

Then again, if it was that bad, I'd probably see it outright. As it stands, it's more than good enough for me, enough for me to rather "deeply analyze it and inspect it if ya know what im sayin" as opposed to actually and unironically doing that.

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Thanks for the share

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Thanks for the chance!

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thx xD

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uff man

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Thank you!

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LOL, this game is on Steam now, wow. Thanks for chance anyway. xD

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not sure what this game is but I see anime Bewbs I click!!!!

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Gracias

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Gracias ^_^

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ty

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Thanks.

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thank

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