Expansion - Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham

I am sorry to let you know that,
with the recent "Check-Up" of our members,
we must remove you from the "moppelversum" group.

Right now your SG Acc. does not fit the group requirements,
as staged at our group "frontpage".

"Reason"
"2:1 SG overall value/ratio"

BUT, you can, for sure, request a group entry again,
after you apply to those requirements, as listed on our group "frontpage"
and just reply to this msg!

Feel free to contact me anytime,
sincerely your moppel.

Hello. I just went to contact you but for some reason you've removed me from your friends list. Can you please post a screen shot of your admin log of the date I joined the group. Thanks.

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YA I was hesitating todo that, but I do that with all Steam FL exceptionally
(RL Friends will stay)

But why do you need this particular info?
?
The rule applies to your overall won and shared gifts,
infogathered by SGtools

Real CV for Sent Gifts on account FateOfOne
990.82 $
Real CV for Won Gifts on account FateOfOne
2,102.41 $

And I want to create a group in which, to additional other goals, those who doesnt have as much luck to win,
or aint in those smaller closed Groups to win alot more or have bigger chances.

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The reason I requested a screenshot because I wanted to know what the date was that I joined your group. I looked over 100 pages of giveaways in the group since March and I didn't find any giveaways I won. From my understanding the ratio/value difference when I joined it had to do with group numbers not SG numbers, had it of been based on what you've just mentioned I wouldn't of been able to join the group at all. My CV on SG is better now than it was awhile ago when I joined your group. So this seems to apparently be a change in your guidelines from group to SG ratio that was made recently.

I'm not sure if you are aware or not but I just looked at the rules on the Steam group and it doesn't state "2:1 SG overall value/ratio", it just states "Members with 2 times more GA overall won/value than ever overall donated will be removed! (2:1 GA value ratio)". Like I mentioned above if it was based on SG CV originally I wouldn't of been able to join the group awhile ago.

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We changed that rule quite a while ago.

The Group information is only needed in comparison to the activity,
so I can keep track of the members group GA activity.
(sharing at least 1 group GA within 2 months)

Now the SG Overall ratio is more important, since, as how I mentioned before,
we wanted to create a space for everyone who does not win alot outside.
But if anyone hits this 2:1 mark, he will be rejected, since he doesn´t need us anymore.

Gatherd info by SGtools
Real CV for Sent Gifts on account FateOfOne
990.82 $
Real CV for Won Gifts on account FateOfOne
2,102.41 $

With those numbers, your allowed win value would´ve been
1981,64 $

-2102,41 $
120,77 $

SO sharing games/products with that value and we r good 2 go again
(if not new winnings are bringing this into new calculations)

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I wasn't aware of the rule change and just in case you aren't aware it still doesn't state on the rules of the Steam group that it's changed from group CV ratio to now SG ratio. So I'm not sure how I would of known this changed. Can you take a moment and find the date I joined your group please and let me know what date you made the rule change from group CV to SG CV please? Thanks in advance.

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We are doing Group announcements for over a quarter of a year now.
A special LogBook is opened up and a recent Groupactivity was noting to this changes too.

I can´t and will not contact every user on SG mate, to notify about chnages in a minor group of mine.
I established a "Watchlist" with ESGST so I can track down some USers, who aint giving for over a YEAR.

BUt in the case of you and other ex members (2:1 value rule)
I can´t think that even If I note ya, that you can change your stats fast enough
(usually given a week for changes)

BTW everyone can reenter the group after he hits the requirements again!

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Right from my frontpage

"Active Rules"

At least SG LvL 5 & have an active, GA sharing, profile.

THIS would apply for the watchlilst
2 months w/o sharing any group GA´s, counts as Inactivity & users will be kicked

The bottom SG members will be removed on a monthly routine!
(max. value difference -300$)

THIS ONE
Members with 2 times more GA overall won/value than ever overall donated will be removed!
(2:1 GA value)

After winning a gift, leave a note of your gratitude!

Blacklisting within the Group is allowed but will be reluctantly watched.

Member Limit - incoming

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MAte you have won alot alread, give others a chance to win games.
When you say you have not ever won something within this group,
I am sorry to hear about that.

But its kinda a fair rule, not?
You how ever have won alot from SG already why is it now so hurting for ya?

THe announcements were going on a while now, even when you´d like to change that, you can come back when you have done it now? SO were lies the problem to lose one little group in which you have not won anything anyways?

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Huh? I think you are turning this isn't something it's not. I am not complaining I didn't win anything from the group and I'm not asking or interested in returning to the group.. I brought it up because originally the rules stated that it was a group 2:1 ratio and value difference. I haven't won anything so my ratio and value difference didn't change in the group since I entered it.

You've stated there was a rule change from group ratio and value difference to SG ratio and value difference which clearly wasn't shown to members and if it was I never saw it. Even now on the group Steam page it does not mention it's SG ratio and value difference.

I'm thinking maybe there's a language barrier here and you might not be understanding what I'm trying to explain.

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