Interested ?
I bought the 10 games bundles before and got 20 games, 2x of the same game. Contacted support to remove the 10 games and the experience with them was horrible. They took some games that i needed and only after several support exchange did they give me the exact 10 games that i bought. Made me regret contacting the support wasting my time.
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I kind of want Selfie just because Rail Slave Games is endearingly weird, but does anyone know which of these games can be given away on SG?
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all of the games that HAVEN'T been given away for free .. i've included a list below ... although i'm pretty sure i missed some.
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I would try typing in the name of the game when you make your next GA and see if it pops up, or comb through the forums and look for the [FREE] tag.
This would be nice for people who just want that +1, but as far as ratings go, it's a mixed bag. This "build a bundle" offers about 81 games, if my calculations are correct. I guess if anything, buy it for the sole purpose of expanding your backlog, but don't expect a lot of good GA material.
I'm totally not bashing on Hot Random Games (formerly Hot Random Keys), nor am I telling you to buy or not buy from them, but I just want to warn people who might be interested in getting this.
Some people have expressed mixed sentiments about their other services, which you can find in the following threads:
Also, don't be so quick to try the lottery system thing where you buy a bunch of games in hopes of getting an AAA game! Sure, you might win it, but it may be region-locked (this situation happened with my friend). There have been many problems too with G2A and their "G2A shield protection" program. I have spoken many times to the store rep, and some other friends of mine have also been in contact with the game distributors/ bundle partners, and it seems they do give keys to HRK Games. However, it's always good to approach sites with a critical lens.
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They totally had me until I realized it was a G2A site and the games weren't guaranteed to work unless you signed up for G2A shield.
Seriously, HRKs is a terrible site, lets just go back to ignoring it :P
I'm totally not bashing on Hot Random Games (formerly Hot Random Keys), nor am I telling you to buy or not buy from them, but I just want to warn people who might be interested in getting this.
I, however, am :)
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If it's that bad, I'll pass. Thanks for the information.
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I find them.. extremely distasteful.
I've yet to find anyone that can give me a justification for why [G2A] should be tolerated- which is in sharp contrast to something like torrent sites, which have multitudes of extremely good reasons for their offerings:
[Game isn't compatible with your setup otherwise; Game cannot be purchased legally anymore (eg, abandonware); Game does not have a demo available; (Big one:) Game uses Uplay and needs to be torrented to actually work, etc].
In my case, I only over torrent games I already own, and that don't work due to Steam or Uplay issues, and I find it a great way to fix what should never have been broken to begin with. :/
Torrent sites don't, as a rule, ask money of you, and they let you decide if you want to break the law flagrantly or approach matters with a sense of righteousness, morality, and basic utility.
In a sense, it's a beautiful display of freedoms, with all the good and bad that entails.
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G2A is just people being greedy and willfully breaking commercial resale laws, without any offered justifications as to why they should morally/legally be allowed to make those exceptions. They then charge their customers extra for the privilege. with G2A shield.
There's nothing remotely beautiful about that. -.-
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The lack of your knowledge amuses me...
First of all: HRK is not supplying its stock from any unauthorized source and it is not reselling the games that have been sold or placed on a giveaway. (Even the games that were previously on a giveaway were purchased from the publisher and it does not mean that the game has been giving away for free by the publishers themselves.) You can contact to the publishers and ask them if HRK has permission to sell their titles on HRK or not. EVEN IF HRK was a game reseller store, nothing is illegal about it. Buying and reselling any form of digital software is perfectly legal, the Court of Justice of the European Union has ruled. Software authors – or in the gaming world, publishers – can not stop customers from reselling their games, even if the publisher attaches an End User License Agreement prohibiting resale.
"The exclusive right of distribution of a copy of a computer program covered by such a licence is exhausted on its first sale," the court has found.
Secondly: G2A is exactly like eBay. It is just a Marketplace. They do not sell any product themselves. But the sellers from all around the world will place their products on its marketplace. So like eBay, a seller could sell a product which is broken and not working. That's why both of the websites give a refund guarantee to avoid fraud.
Please google it, before posting it. ;)
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Consumers are allowed to resale, without restriction.
Publishers are allowed to prevent companies from reselling items by putting restrictions in the initial purchasing contract [ie, in a bundle], as they are allowed to with any product.
I haven't heard any indication of otherwise, and all recent articles and news indicate that legality hasn't changed.
The primary reason it doesn't apply to companies, is that in "The exclusive right of distribution of a copy of a computer program covered by such a license is exhausted on its first sale" , first sale refers to 'first legitimate sale to a consumer'.
If you've legally obtained a copy of a product, THEN you- as a company or consumer- may resell it as you please. If you purchased a product in violation of the terms of service, whatever they may be, then your initial purchase was unlawful, and you do not have right of resale- or even of ownership, and the product can be revoked without liability.
As has happened numerous times for G2A keys, where developers and sellers have revoked keys for them- as Google will gleefully tell you when you ask it.
You are then liable to your consumer for the product's loss, since you were the one who provided a damaged product.
There are more limitations on what restrictions can be placed on consumers in TOS, than on companies, but- well, consider it this way.
Companies are allowed to sell items at discount 'for educational purposes', and sue if they're used otherwise. It's a similar concept.
Again, if you have actual legal sources to indicate that has changed, do cite them- certainly the reports coming from G2A still suggest keys are being revoked regularly.
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And we KNOW how G2A works, as a market.
The fact that their policies are being applied to a bundle and their 'protection guarantee' has an EXTREMELY high (relative to bundle cost) price, and that that works by an auto-subscription service that keeps charging your account, is a scam.
It's been considered a scam for every other company that does that, aaaaand it's still considered as such. It's not an illegal one, but it's certainly not one that we as consumers are fond of. You may call it something other than a scam, something less offensive, but the fact that it DOES offend people won't change.
EBay does NOT charge you for its protections, those are entirely free, AND they pay any fees associated with recovery and refund. Ebay also vets its sellers and provides confirmations of their status, and provides paypal payment, which provides another layer of security.
I'm not at all sure how Ebay and G2A compare, nor how their market functions are relevant to a promoted product being unreliable and requiring extra fees.
The problem with finishing a post with something like "Please google it, before posting it. ;)", nevermind assuming someone is worth attacking rather than educating, is that the end result does not always let you come out of things gracefully.
But then, given your aggressive and unsupported defense of a rather infamous site, I'm going to allow for the possibility that you've a vested interest in the matter.
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as an individual, I had sold some of the games that I had on my steam inventory on both ebay and g2a. on g2a, I had no problem after selling it. But on ebay, all of the items that I sold got refunded and I lost my games. Why? because ebay does not have any fraud prevention program for digital products. So consumers can go and purchase items from ebay and then charge-back.
I'm not here to fight. I'm just tired of the people who judge others without enough knowledge. Here on SG, I see some users that just want to bash any website with their negative vote to any votings and ruin everything, because it is fun! It's not about HRK, it's about other websites too. Whenever someone posts something about a website, everyone just try to make fun of it and ruin the discussion and the result of it would be only misadvertisement.
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My intention was never to poke at them- I was always willing (even eager, since I did have interest in the bundle) to hear redeeming evidence on their behalf.
But the current setup of the bundle is depressingly negative, and that's just my personal outlook right there, not any sort of adherence to communal-bashing.
I apologize if I took your post overly negatively- as you noted, expectations can sometimes run rather negative for things like this.
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If you check his Steam profile, Sooth, you'll notice he's in a HRK Steam Group (favorite group), and if you check that group, you'll see he's the admin of the group. I've seen him on every thread about HRK, jumping to their defense.
Vested interest? I'd say so. In fact, I'd go so far as to say he's the owner of HRK, given the group's overview. ;)
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Sadly, it's been many years since I've seen that place.
I worked in sales most of my younger days, and that was a dark, dark place full of legal lies and deceit. It did, however, make it much easier to spot someone trying to sell a line of BS. These days I build homes in the sun. I sleep much better at night and live with a clear conscience. Maybe I'll see that rainbow land again someday. :P
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hahaha, great find
check is giveaway descriptions and voila!
two examples are:
"/
You can also join the giveaway below to win another FALLOUT 4:
http://hrkey.co/hrk-giveaway
If you are looking for more giveaways, you can go to our steam group and join us:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/hotrandomkeys
/"
"/
Everyday 10 giveaway, 10 winners!
This giveaway belongs to Hot Random Keys Group.
For more giveaways, please join to our steam group, Facebook Page or tweeter.
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/hotrandomkeys
https://www.facebook.com/hotrandomkeys
https://www.twitter.com/hotrandomkeys
/"
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Ah, I've seen those.
Just be careful, you're skirting close (though by my personal perspective, not doing so) to 'calling out', and a matter like this isn't worth that potential hassle.
Definitely does repaint his 'everyone picking on the little guy' statement above into 'noone is going along with my scam like I want them to', though :/
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That would be an exceptionally odd thing to put into TOS, especially for a site that seems to be based around deceptive tactics.
When you check out with the bundle, it offers you the G2A shield and notes it's to protect you if any of the keys don't work, and that it's on you otherwise if they don't.
Also, that's a well known fact of how G2A sites work- and a topic that gets brought up regularly in news articles about the site, as well as here on the forums.
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Well, look at it this way- even if all the very well-publicized concerns about the site ARE overblown [and there's not even the slightest sign that they are], all the games being offered are heavily bundled or freely given away games [which, y'know, is how they got so many of them to offer in the first place.]
So they'll come around cheap again, and again- so you're not REALLY missing anything here, even if the build-a-bundle aspect is quite cool.
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I do have 5 games I want in that list, but won't buy it right now.
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There is so many games on the list and I missed that.
Thanks for correction.
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this is complete BS by G2A
buy in bulk from bundles and giveaways
then resell
Unauthorized key reselling should be illegal if it's not already.
Individuals doing so with spares and extra keys is one thing, a whole black market industry is not. Shame on you!
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I'm going to take a chance and use this as a way to fill in some games I missed from Bundlestar bundles and have always bugged me by being in Giveaways I never win. Namely: Dead Horde, Selfie, Void Invaders, Titan, Teddy Floppy Bear Mountain, Teddy Floppy Bear Racing, Motorama, Iron Soul, Panzer Claws, Global Ops
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just a little bit of extra feedback. I did a bundle trying to flesh out my collection, and one of the keys I received was reported by steam as having already been redeemed on another account. I contacted support and they gave me another key for the game, but just thought I would give everyone a heads up.
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Eh, I wouldn't say that alone is a sign of sketchiness. I've gotten dupe keys from IndieGala and Humble Bundle as well, which were replaced without issue. But (at least with the PayPal option I looked at) HRK tries to sign you up for a monthly fee-based protection plan or they won't guarantee your purchase. That's definitely sketch.
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Actually, it's not HRK that 's doing it...
The payment portal system they use, G2A, put it there but I had previously used G2A one time so I was able to just login and disable it...
I am happy and lucky that all my games redeemed with no problems on my account.
Edit: you can go read Rachel's thread to find out more, there's a conversation with a HRK rep there.
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This thread should be updated periodically, because the games change slightly, even though the build-a-bundle is ongoing.
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I've forgot I'd made this thread 3 months ago. Thanks to remind me.
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Any idea till when will this offer stand? Any date?
Also, is it true that paper dungeons was added in this list? :O nice I wanted it.
Hmmm I just saw that the source of the keys is risky.... Are people buying these? hmm
EDIT: I don't see an option to pay with paypal without registrations. damn... Is it safe to log with steam??? anyone?
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This is an ongoing but slightly changing deal with no end date. However, if you're looking for a certain game, it's better to buy sooner rather than later, because they do run out of keys and remove and change some of the games after awhile.
Yes, Paper Dungeons was added.
People are just speculating about the source of the keys, but I've not heard of anyone having problems. Even if the keys are from bundles, that still means they are legit.
You don't need to register to pay with PayPal but you do need to login with Steam or create an account. Of course it's safe to login with Steam, that's the whole point of such an authorization.
And G2A is only being used as a payment gateway. You are not purchasing from G2A, nor are you required to signup with it or purchase any optional protections. Just unclick any boxes or selections you see for that and continue on with Paypal.
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Ok I just bought a 5 pack thanks. I really wanted paper dungeons I guess. xD
However even by using the steam login I was actually required to make a HKR account regardless, where I also got the notifications and steam keys. I did disable the shield/g2a stuff cause it seemed like a lot of trouble anyway. Thanks again.
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The G2A Shield option is an automatic part of G2A's payment gateway. It's enabled by default when you checkout using it, no matter who the seller is. When you're buying direct from an actual company, as opposed to an individual seller in an open market, it's useless. People get confused and think that HRK is saying that their keys aren't guaranteed, which is false.
Buying from HRK is not the same as buying from some rando who says they have Fallout 4 for $25. That shield stuff is to protect you when you're trying to buy from the randos, which doesn't apply here.
I want to be clear that I'm not endorsing or shilling for HRK, but I also don't find them to be as scary as too many people make them out to be.
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Update for new listing 144 titles for this "make your own bundles", it is so tired for listing hundred of titles.
Well, let me know if any game on this list should be categorized at FREE GAMES.
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Wow! I didn't expect you to do all that work. I think it would have been easier if you had just had a link to the site, and only listed the games that had been given away free before, since that is what most SG users are concerned about.
But a big THANK YOU anyway. You're awesome.
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That's true for most of the games but there's at least 5 games right now that haven't been bundled before. And there used to be other games that I can say the same about but guess they are sold out. For those cases it's worth it, otherwise I wouldn't buy it either :)
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