Steam Deck?
Also in the middle priced option.
$399.00
64GB
eMMC
Carrying case
$529.00
256GB
NVMe SSD
Faster storage
Carrying case
Exclusive Steam Community profile bundle
$649.00
512GB
NVMe SSD
Fastest storage
Premium anti-glare etched glass
Exclusive carrying case
Exclusive Steam Community profile bundle
Exclusive virtual keyboard theme
I mean the most expensive option comes with the anti glare glass and fastest storage out of the 3 options. Is that worth $249, not sure, but I don't know if we should try and drop that on the "profile bundle" or the "virtual keyboard theme".
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Извини, что не по теме, но как ты приобрел MK11? Он же недоступен для покупки из Украины.
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I don't hate it, something more pc players could use as a way to play games on the go but also saves dragging around a laptop.
I'd never be able to afford it or have a real reason to get it but its something I would use compared to their other products
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something more pc players could use
Locked software on locked components in a Nintendo Switch-like form factor... it's not a PC it's a console.
A console that can play your Steam library, so I can see why some people may find it interesting. At this price I'd rather upgrade my PC though.
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yeah I said that cuz you can move around, I could go to the park and play on my laptop. Pc players are stuck at a desk or whatever. Between that or upgrades I'm sure everyone would go upgrade their pc but if someone is on the move alot, wanting to play steam its something that can be used. Need that higher one though, I already know games like borderlands cant be played on the cheapest one not enough room, I'd just use it for reading as those don't need a high end system
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Ah I remember how I used to play Skryim and Tomb Raider (the reboot) in the train on my laptop... Good times ^^ It was a bit cumbersome indeed.
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None of it is locked thou, you can install any OS on it
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Actually, as far as I know, Steam Deck's OS is not locked down, except for the part that's the Steam client.
In fact, you should even be able to use other game clients or software in general on it!
Also, Valve themselves had released a video about opening the hardware, so I don't think it's locked down in terms of hardware either, although I vaguely recall it being said that switching SSDs wasn't designed to be user-friendly, but that it is still do-able.
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Hm, maybe? Depends on how many of my games can run well on this. I for the most part play my games on my laptop while in bed, so if this works for more demanding games it could be a great alternative for lazy days. It says it runs the latest AAA games, so if that's true then it could be a good investment for me.
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I'm probably going to buy it after some thought, since it fits really well with how I play my games. Lazy gaming enhanced.
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hmm, i've seen a few of these form factor pcs before but they've all been kinda iffy. with valve behind this one, it might actually turn out to be good. would be pretty sweet to own one.
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I would love to have something like this from steam but this is way to expensive.
it well be sold out tomorrow but in the longterm i don't think that this will be a gamechanger
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Well I don't agree with first sentence. Huge library doesn't mean 5000 games, even 500 is more than enough to sway price difference in Deck favor. Its resolution is only 1280x800, so don't think that playing AAA games will be that much of a problem, at least the ones currently available. Will be interesting to see actual benchmarks though.
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If the switch can run BOTW, I'm sure this device can run some AAA games, although their statement that they can run all the latest AAA games really well just seems wrong to me, even at that resolution. I'm not saying it can't open them, but I don't think it would be a great experience for most intensive games. This seems better suited for games that aren't AAA. Like you said though, the benchmarks will be what actually shows if this device can hold up.
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500 is not a huge library. I have over 1000 and that's just from bundles, freebies, SG wins and the like. I don't even get the Humble Monthly every month and I don't buy games more than maybe once every couple of months
And still, sitting pretty over 1K games in my library, I still think that's what too pricey for what you get.
My point is you can have a big library and not be a millionaire.
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You can go with the gamepass on xbox. and for 200 - 300€ you can get about 3 years of gamepass.
And a lot of people who have that many games also have a PC that they can use to play these games.
You can even Stream your games on your smartphone.
On AAA Games the Deck last maybe 2-3 hours... I'm not sold
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Yeah, you have good points, but I personally don't use subsciption services; I can acknowledge that Game Pass is a great deal but it is simply not for me. I don't like 'being presurred' to play some games before they leave service.
As far as streaming to your phone goes it is a hassle to assemble gamepad and phone holder and disassemble them after each gameplay session. Also wifi connection is not great, I am 3m away from my router, was playing visual novel (Danganronpa) and game and audio were stuttering from time to time. It is not a good router but still, imagine what would happen if I was to play some fast action game.
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you can buy a screen and a battery pack for the gamepad and still have money left for the gamepass :D
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okay: you get 2-3 Nintendo Switch for the same price.
But it was more about the power of the APU.
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I prefer something like that, it also needs less electricity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEno8A2WM_w
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Button layout looks a little uncomfortable, but maybe it's ok, no idea until some reviews come out. Also surprised about 16:10 screen. I thought a while ago about buying Switch, but when I calculated how much would I have to spend again for games that I already own on Steam - I changed my mind quickly. This would be ideal thing for me, unfortunately can't preorder from my shitty country but will wait to see about its availability, EU is not that far at least. :)
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Why the hell would they have the sticks and buttons so high on the whatchamacallit? Looks uncomfortable as can be.
Isn't it less expensive to buy a laptop and a gamepad?
Interesting that all the videos show women playing. I wonder if it's because the design looks even more awkward with men's hands
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I thought about buying gaming laptop but there was nothing decent below ~800€. Deck has much lower resolution which should make games run at decent framerates, and portability also beats any laptop by far. I'm also a little worried about button positions, but lets give Valve a benefit of a doubt, hopefully they tested it extensively to make it comfortable for prolonged use.
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Well, I don't usually play in the street so portability is not really a factor for me. Still, at that price, with the way AAA games are going, the specs are going to be obsolete very very fast. Sure, you can't upgrade most laptops but still, that's stiff.
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I mean I wouldn't play it in the street also, it would be in my bed, in another room, backyard, when I'm working in another city... I'm also not attracted to AAA stuff that much, and I don't have powerful PC for that even if I was. :D
I mostly play 2D games - some p&c, platformers, metroidvanias, puzzle games, etc. The machine would be powerful enough to play future games like that as well, and some AAA action on the side is just a bonus. Would really love to see benchmarks where it stands with current AAA lineup like Control, Doom Eternal, Metro Exodus, RDR 2 etc.
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I'm pretty sure it'll be a breeze with small indie games and stuff like that, sure.
The big question mark is the ergonomics and the real battery power. They say 2 to 8 hours but it's probably closer to 2, on the best day, with screen brightness to the minimum on a black and white game.
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I mean, for the tech specs and price point.... I don't think so? But it is probably a better choice to get a laptop+gamepad, all things considered, especially since that button layout looks painful to use, but maybe those pads would make it better? Not sure yet
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That's exactly what I was thinking! Good job on inventing the Stwitch (Steamwitch sounds too edible... or Victorian), but STICKS GO AT THE BOTTOM! HAVE WE LEARNED NOTHING FROM THE WII U!?
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I'll admit I'm most likely not going to invest in this thing (I don't intend to do much portable gaming, and I have some other things I want to spend my money on more), so my opinion doesn't really mean anything ... but I don't understand this particular argument against it. Stick your hands out in front of you like you're holding something between them (for example, a rectangular shaped gaming device). Are your thumbs pointing down? Or are they pointing in and up? From what I've seen of the size and shape of the device itself, when you pick up this device and hold it, your thumbs will naturally land on the little touchpad controller things, and it'll physically be easier to move up to the current location of the sticks/buttons than down. There's a reason people tend to like the XBox controller with its stick (one of them, anyway) at the top instead of the bottom like the Playstation controllers... your thumbs naturally rest on the stick on the left side and the buttons on the right side, both of which are at the top of the controller, not the bottom. I mean, it's one of those things that we can't really know for sure until it's literally in our hands, whether it's comfortable as is or not. The part that I'm more confused/worried about are the L/R 4&5 buttons. I get the reason for them, I just don't think I can train my brain to think of my little and ring fingers as new button pressers.
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I guess mine doesn't matter much either, for largely the same reason; I've been working from home for over a year, and I've reverted to my natural hermit self, so why buy a portable thing when my computer is in the same place that I always am, it only plays Steam games (not my main platform), and I'm going to want to play most if not all of my first-person games with mouselook because I suck at them too much for a controller? In any case, no, when I hold something like that, my thumbs aren't pointing upward or downward; just inward. Now, it is more comfortable to move them upward than downward, but that's why I grip a controller with the sticks where my thumbs are laterally aligned with the sticks; having your thumbs in a vertically neutral position when used on the something that rotates and is used for movement is ideal, so the offset position of reaching up to hit the static buttons makes it good design. If they're all at the top, your thumbs are at an angle, making it a little more awkward to control them, since they aren't centered; the alternative is to grab the controller by the top, making the buttons at the bottom less comfortable to reach, and for something as big as the Steam Deck (unless it's lighter than it looks), that's not a great way to hold it. I've put probably hundreds of hours into Smash Bros. games over the years on the N64 controller, Game Cube controller, and even the Wiimote, and playing that on the Wii U's controller felt so unnatural that I had to check that my hands hadn't mutated. On a personal note, I do use my gamepads to play games that aren't 3D, probably more often than not, so I like having the d-pad in line with the face buttons, so that partially factors into it; if I played more 3D stuff, I might prefer the XBox layout with the sticks at odds with each other, but I've never liked that controller, either.
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https://www.steamdeck.com/de/hardware
They didnt just use women.
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I thought the button positions looked kinda strange at first, but honestly I think it could be more comfortable than the Switch, I have some of the Switch controllers that are closer to full-size controllers that help a bit, but sometimes I still wish the positioning were a little easier.
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I guess time will tell. I really wish they had positioned the sticks and button closer to the middle or even at the bottom, tbh. This looks like it's going to put a crazy amount of strain on the fingers and the wrists but maybe it won't, I don't know.
As it is, it makes me reluctant to buy before any review is available. And even that won't really tell how your hands feel hours of gameplay later.
But then it's the same with any controller. Except they're not that expensive so you can take a risk.
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I had planned to buy a Switch Pro. As that became just a mere screen upgrade, I'll gladly spend my money for Steam Deck instead.
That it runs ALL games and not just Linux, is a pleasant surprise. It runs all current games well enough in the given resolution. I'll probably pre-order the mid option.
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Well, it will be running SteamOS with Proton for compatibilty.
https://www.steamdeck.com/en/software
You can check compatibility of your steam library here: https://www.protondb.com/
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https://www.pcgamer.com/au/steam-deck-handheld-announced/
On the software side, Steam Deck runs on a new version of SteamOS, the Linux-based operating system Valve hoped to make a living room staple back when Steam Machines were a thing. That doesn't mean that the Steam Deck will be limited to Linux games, though. Valve says that its Proton compatibility software has been "vastly improved," and works with anti-cheat systems. You'll be able to play Windows games that don't have official Linux support, put simply.
If you want, you can even kick SteamOS off of the device and install Windows, or something else.
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OLED model isn't just a screen upgrade, but tbf most of the other upgrades are negligble at best so that's a fair choice lol. I feel like everyone will go for the high end or mid ones, the low end one just seems too weak to consider. (Yes, the switch does come with less but switch games usually require less storage and some people will only get physical copies, although I also think the 32 gigs is kinda bs)
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You mean a Switch (OLED Version)? Or waiting hoping they release a 4K-output Switch soon?
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I expected a beefier version, the OLED is a too lame upgrade to spend money for another Switch.
And as I wrote elsewhere, if the Deck should be as good as expected, I won't spend any money for non-exclusive games on the Switch anymore.
Edit: Just registered that I had written "I'll gladly spend my money for Switch Deck instead."
I obviously meant Steam Deck. ;)
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Yeah, I was kinda disappointed when they just announced the OLED, haha. But I did also read an article that said they might be waiting to announce a better one with 4K support and such until the chip shortage ends, I’m fairly certain that it’s just speculation, but who knows.
The one thing I really did like about the OLED was the new stand, though. Why they didn’t do something like that for the original Switch instead of the trash plastic flap they gave us is beyond me, haha.
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I doubt that they will first make a new OLED version and then follow up with another 4K upgrade. Another update too soon would hurt those buying OLED now and even Nintendo should get that upsetting their customers this way would be a bad business decision.
And somewhen later they'll need a true next gen, unless they decide to stick with their current console format for next gen too. And that would be very untypical for Nintendo.
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have been saying xbox should do this since the 360 came out
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Sound promising, but I think whoever buying it need to buy 256/512GB, 64GB are crazy low storage nowadays, and its not nvme, I know that it can use microsd but still. Price-wise tho I'm not really interested to buy, maybe will selling well at 1st world country.
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People buy the Switch because of Nintendo Games.
As long as there is no Smash, Zelda, Mario (and not just "games like that") Nintendo-Fans will not switch
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Nintendo fans will certainly not switch to the new console. I'm talking about regular gamers.
For example, I love steam for its regional prices. In our country, not all people can afford to buy many interesting games at the original price.
Apart from some Nintendo exclusives, I have very few other games on Switch. I buy good indie games on Steam, because it's cheaper there for me.
And it might be convenient to take your entire library of games with you somewhere. Without having to buy those same games again. And some people already have thousands of them on Steam.
The main question is how comfortable this console will be. The location of the buttons and sticks looks a little questionable... 🤔
And how much power will the console pull? I don't think Doom Eternal will look the same as on PC.
For example, yes, I have Mortal Kombat 11 on the Switch, but the graphics and optimization there are so awful that of course it is better to buy it on Steam at 5 times cheaper on sale 😅
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This actually seems interesting to me. It's too expensive for me right now since I live in a country with a shitty economy so I'm not going to buy one anytime soon, but I'm excited to see where this can go. I hope it actually lives up to what it says and be able to run AAA games smoothly. Seems like something I'd want to have in the future since I like having most of my games on my Steam account.
Edit: Oh yeah, the analog stick placement does look a bit awkward lol. I hope it'll be durable too. Also, battery life. A few of my many concerns. Well, other people will test it for us cheapskates anyway, so we'll see in a year how it fares and decide if I still want one after the reviews pour in. XD
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https://www.steamdeck.com/en/tech
The tech specs of the unit - it appears to be plenty capable, and has all the extras you could ask for.
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If you're asking valve for that, I think you're asking too much. If you're wondering if you can open it up and replace the storage yourself....Maybe?
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If the storage can be upgraded like that, it would be neat but there's already a microSD slot so they might just solder the storage (Is that how you say that?)
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That design though. They pushed the sticks and buttons to the corners to make room for the pads. Seems like the other way around would have been more useful. Or maybe an asymetrical design (I hate those in gamepads but at least that would have allowed them to have a trackpad lower and one higher).
It feels the trackpads are going to be in the way. And if you try to play around them, that's going to mean even more contortions.
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The good news is you could just put your thumbs over them or even rest your thumbs on them when you’ just want to use the sticks. Customizing control schemes is really easy, and you could even use one or both of the trackpads as sticks with haptic feedback if you wanted.
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I can at least say this: I tried a few shooters on mobile, and touch controls were surprisingly good. It's easier to aim with touch than with sticks. Of course the Steam Deck still has to show that the track pads are actually good and their position is convenient for longer sessions.
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I actually bought a gamepad specifically for my gf that has a centrally located trackpad because she loves to play FPS and she has wrists issues so the mouse gameplay was giving her pain. It's pretty convenient.
But yeah the location on the Steam Deck seems a bit... in the way, I dunno. We'll see when they release it I guess.
Considering the weight though, it definitely won't be for her. I'll wait for reviews and decide if it's worth the investment
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Yeah Valve always makes awesome hardware that we all use, like Steam Machines, Steam Links and so on. If this goes down to 200 bucks, I still won't buy it.
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Why are you telling us you're hyped? Why are you telling us anything Valve makes is always awesome? Because Why not? After all it was a reasonable response to your statement. Good luck with the steam deck.
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Let's just say that Valve's previous attempts at hardware have been disappointing to say the least. And they say Steam Deck can be evolved but then they quickly add "not by users" so that probably means more money and that Steam Deck will inevitably join Steam Link and the Steam Controller in Digital Dodoland with Google Glass. Hopefully Steam Deck will enjoy a long enough life until that happens.
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Let's just say that Valve's previous attempts at hardware have been disappointing to say the least.
Disappointing to you or disappointing in general? Because the Steam controller was pretty well received and reviewed well, as did the Valve Index. Even the Steam Link reviewed pretty well, despite not catching on. If in doubt, google up some reviews. That leaves Steam Machines as the only Valve hardware that wasn't well received, and if I'm not mistaken, those weren't actually made/sold by Valve - they were third party PCs.
If anything, Valve's record indicates it will be a solid piece of hardware that does what it's supposed to (and no, I've no intention of purchasing one, so I've no motive to fanboy the thing).
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Oh I didn't mean disappointing as in the products were bad, quite the opposite. They have indeed been well reviewed and well received.
I meant that Valve hasn't been great at the follow-trough part, which is important, if not vital, in the hardware side of the business.
They seem more into unveiling a great product, cashing in on it, and then dropping the ball once they paid for R&D and made some money off it. I'm not judging. Hardware is a tough business. Their history doesn't make me trust them on this side though. I'll wait and see and actually hope for the best because that could be a great product if it keeps going.
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The only thing I don’t love about my Steam controller is that it’s not rechargeable, other than that it is awesome. I also have an Alienware Alpha which was essentially a Steambox before the actual Linux-running ones, so I doubt it’s actually comparable, but it was and still is well-loved, haha. It does have the exact same design as the Alienware Steambox (minus the Steam logo) but has Windows and a Kodi menu which I liked until it got abandoned and stopped working right… Now I just have it launch Big Picture when I start it.
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i get migraines where i have to lay down to give my neck a rest but i'm still wide awake and able to process visual stimuli, so this set-up would let me game while i'm forced in a prone position. gonna reserve the mid-option and if i really don't have the cash to order one in December then oh well.
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reserved my copy. ended up going for the highest tier because it's just over a hundred more and that way i can hold off on getting an ssd to expand it for a while. whooo.
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Maybe? I'm just having a hard time seeing myself ever using it though. Like why would I play something on a handheld if I can just play it on a better setup at home? If I didn't have a Switch or 3DS, then maybe I can see the appeal. But since I do, it seems pointless from a practical standpoint. This is not even taking into consideration on how well the games will play on the system.
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3 Reasons
1)
Because this is portable,can play at bed,for example...
you start fallout 4 or oblivion,
you create the character (>''<) ...,
and you sleep already before to play hahahaha
2)
Also when at bed if you run portal and put steam desk from of gf\wife p**y then you can do magic things,with setup home can't
3) Because this is Gaben approved, Setup at home is not.
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there a lot of indie, beat em ups, platformers, novels, some casual games and others, which easy to play at portative.
also you can install win 10 on it and possibly play switch games with emulator :D
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and possibly play switch games with emulator :D
But why would I do that if I already have a Switch? Like I don't deny that there are a lot of games that would work great in a handheld. My issue is that I already have the Switch for that. If someone owns a Switch and a gaming pc, why would they get a new console? Either I'll get the game on Steam so I can play it on a pc with better quality, or I'll get it on the Switch for portability. The thing is though, the Switch also has a bunch of first party exclusives which makes the Switch worthwhile, but the same cannot be said for Deck.
I only see this thing being worth it if someone does not have a Switch, has no interest in ever getting one, only wants portability but is willing to pay a higher price for it because of better graphics and shared library. Like I see why pc gamers may see the appeal, but I doubt console gamers will care for it.
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I do have a Switch and a desktop gaming PC: Yet I'll get a Deck too.
Why? Because I won't have to wait for Switch ports anymore. Or won't have to pay a higher price for the same games (I most likely already own on Steam). And won't end up having to build a new library with the next generation of Nintendo.
I'll keep the Switch for the exclusives, but that's all I'll bother to buy on that system from now on. If Deck should turn out to be what I hope it to be.
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I am the same as Golwar, I love my Switch, but I have a lot more games I like on PC. I literally was just thinking the other day about where I would prefer to get Monster Hunter Stories 2: Wings of Ruin (if I could afford it) and was leaning toward Switch so I could play it anywhere, even if it meant it was a little more expensive and wouldn’t have any of the Steam features I like.
Then a few days later they announced this and now I feel I can get it cheaper for this, plus if any friends get it I can play with them, and I can use my other Steam features, AND when I’m able to play on my computer, I can do so as well on my same save and everything.
And also, yeah, waiting/hoping for Switch versions isn’t always fruitful. God Eater 3 came to Switch, which kinda surprised me, but the others didn’t and Monster Hunter World never did, and of course games like good-old 100% OJ never will, haha. But with this we could play them on “Switch” without them needing to be in it, lol.
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It wasnt really interrupted, he chose to open the overlay and read it, same as with regular steam where you can turn it off as well.
Pretty funny if you ask me though, because lets face it, thats where 80% of deck users will be. It also shows how the steam overlay works on this one.
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Also I don’t think he really loaded into Control in the middle of a fight… But I’m not sure if that’s the “suspended” game either, I figured that would just be when you turned it on, but maybe not.
Now I’m wondering, maybe that is how their suspended games work, or maybe they just did some cut to skip the menus and boring stuff?
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the charming factor is the ability to use the existing steam library.
I would buy one if the 256GB one would be on the price of the 64GB, but the 550€ already too much right now. That could change for me during september or october but i think at that time it would be already sold out and new delivery time would be like 2022 Q3.
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if you preorder it now they will gift with real afro hairs statue ,you put it front of you and put valve deck on it and not feel heavy then
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