heres the new updated build http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/sXJn

i know there are better video cards but im on a budget so i cant get the 660 ti.

i guess theres no need to use intel srt caching if im making the 120gb SSD my boot drive am i correct? i plan on installing MS office on the SSD and my games and stuff on the HDD. other than the games starting up fast is there any other performance improvements ingame?

i read online that people say to disable system restore and pagefile inorder to optimize the SSD. what do you guys think?

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Looks fine to me apart from no SSD.

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+1 ssd would make it faster, but HDD is still fine.

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SSDs are overpriced and pointless right now. Sure, you can boot from cold in less than 15 seconds... But I can boot from cold in less than 20 on a standard HDD...

Those extra 5 seconds aren't worth the extra $200.

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I agree. Until SSD's come down in price (ie. price/GB) the speed difference isn't worth it right now.

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You just don't know the awesomeness. Have you ever heard anyone say they regret their SSD purchase?

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No but you can save some cash for more/faster RAM, better GFX, CPU, etc. That will give more overall performance than just a SSD. :p lol

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I totally regret getting one for free from Kingston. Wait, no I don't.

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Sleep mode for life. :-P

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And actual SSD have also a limited number of writing, even if it's in the order of hundred of thousands, that will be consumed if used for anything different than the OS.

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i looked up some stuff about SSD. im thinking about using the caching method from intel SRT. the enhanced mode has less risk and i need to put it in RAID mode. which RAID mode is this RAID 1 or 2.

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Egh... get the K model proc and the Ti model GPU, as well as an SSD as recommended by boerenlater. Then it'll be kick ass :)

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What she said, but why 700W? I think thats too much. Have a 3770K and a GTX680, an im using one with 680W, i think 700W would be too much for you

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She!? sputters

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well he then

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700w is just fine for this build. Especially if you plan run more than one gfx card in the future.

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not point buying the K processor since OC will void my 3 year extended warranty im gonna buy from NCIX.

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An extended warrant is NOT worth the significant horsepower increase you'd get from OCing, the K chips are designed and built for OCing and the standard manufacturer warranty is more than enough -- you really don't need the extra three years. Seriously, please don't waste people's time asking for advice if you're just going to shrug it off and ignore it based on flimsy reasons ;)

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You are buying windows? ._.

You couldtake 4x4gb ram.
Western Digital HDD, an SSD (like 120gb or 240gb for os, programs and a few games) would also be better imo.
Get the k model cpu and ti model gpu too.

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I don't get what you mean by "you are buying windows?"

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I think what he means is that most people pirate their copy of Windows in order to spend the extended budget on a slightly better build.

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Also, are you going to use editing software etc? If not, maybe go for 8GB RAM, since 16GB is too much for video gaming.

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im majoring in finance so i wouldnt be doing any software/video editing.

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Too much for video gaming? There's no "Too much" in the matter of RAM. As much, as better. Always. If some will not be used, you can always create a RAMDisk and put there something, e.g. browser.

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Why only 16GB? I would buy 32GB atleast.

Can't have too much!

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Buy as much as you can, even money shouldn't be a problem. DDR3 Memories are very cheap.

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  1. Get the 3570k, not the 3570.
  2. You won't be using 16 gigs unless you're doing some graphical editing. Get 8.
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I want to finally play some of my games on the highest settings without 20fps.. so I will buy a new computer too.

I don't know anything about which CPU is good, any advise?

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i5-3570k is the ideal CPU.
Anything else?

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Sound Card maybe.. I have pretty awsome speakers/ headphone ... so I may want to use them.

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I'm not sure, but I've been meaning to get myself an ASUS Xonar ESSENCE STX when I build my computer.

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Looks like a solid build. I would agree with a getting a Ti card and a "k" series Intel, if it's in your budget. Also, I'd go with faster RAM as 1600 is near the bottom of what the board can handle. You could get this for about the same price as the one you selected. As far as 16gb of memory being useless, I disagree. For this reason.

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Let's try to fix this.

Build

3570k, 8GB of ram, 7950 instead of 660, cheaper case, better psu.

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I can safely +1 this, was going to suggest you to get AMD equivalent of GTX 660 (which is 7870, but 7950 is a better choice) and also reduce the RAM to 8GB.

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+2

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+1

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+1

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my friend told me to use WD instead of seagate. is it worth paying extra $20.

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd1002faex

no point getting the K version processor as that will void my warranty with NCIX.

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Your friend either had a seagate fail or a WD never fail. But someone else had the opposite experience and will tell you seagate over WD.

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Does that really matter?

Voiding the warranty doesn't matter much since it should last longer than the warranty will last and by the time it runs out, you should be overclocking or getting a new system.

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Listen to this guy. You don't need warranty if you know you are going to treat it right.

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Exactly.

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i looked up some stuff about SSD. im thinking about using the caching method from intel SRT. the enhanced mode has less risk and i need to put it in RAID mode. which RAID mode is this RAID 1 or 2.

any recommendations for SSD. is this one any good: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/ocz-internal-hard-drive-agt325sat360g

my friend recommended this one: http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/sandisk-internal-hard-drive-sdssdp064gg25

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SSD is nice, but not required in anyway. If you have a budget, you'd be better off putting the money into a better Processor, Video Card, PSU, or mobo.

If you have no budget, go for it.

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In fact, I'd put the money towards a 670 as the 660 stuggles when you add in AA.

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Both are low reliability Sandforce drives.

Go with this instead.

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thanks

at first my friend recommend this but too bad its sold out http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/corsair-internal-hard-drive-cssdf60gbgtbk

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That thing is sandforce too.

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You're buying recently released hardware, both high-end. Why would there be a bottleneck?

Bottleneck comes when you use old tech with a new one. Like using a 7800GT with an Ivy bridge, or a Athlon X2 with a GTX680

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heres all the changes i made:

http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/p/sRNw

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I don't see why you are so adamant in getting a Blu-Ray drive, and the other parts. It would be better to go with the 7950 build as the 7950 greatly outperforms the 660 and has a better PSU.

Blu-ray has plenty of problems on windows as well.

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originally i was gonna buy the hp envy pre-built that came with a blu-ray. my parents is pissed already that i went over the budget. they would be more pissed if they couldnt watch blu-ray movies or burn blu-ray discs from our camcorder.

as for the PSU that one was on sale and recommended by the shop. i was considering this one before i went to the shop http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/antec-power-supply-ea650green

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ask my parents and they are fine with no blu-ray. i spent the money on the 120gb SSD.

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I would still go with faster RAM. I put up a link for an alternate choice in my previous post.

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Faster ram is negligible in SB/IB. This isn't APUs we are talking about.

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I have the 660. Decent card, plays most games on high - very high, though the AA has to be turned down on some games because it's 192-bit.

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what the difference between setting it up for intel srt caching and intel rst caching.

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Get GTX660Ti. It's maybe costs more but it's performance is much better. And you definitely should get Zotac GeForce GTX 660 Ti AMP! Edition card. It's about 100$ more but it's best one from GTX660Ti you can get. Also Gigabyte and MSI has good cards. But definitely buy GTX660Ti which will be much faster and better in its performance.

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2 things.

  1. Gaming SSD minimum size 128gb. Tip: You don't need to install the Windows on it. Just install the games on it. Tip#2 You dont need to install STEAM on it just use a program to move individual games on it that you play regularly.

  2. ALWAYS buy the latest and the most powerfull GPU that nVidia has made atm. Or... you will end up like the other 99% of gamers, always thinking why you didn't while going to the settings to lower something. Think ahead! A GPU that can play games that our out today at max is a GPU that is already old. You need to buy an overkill GPU if you want to keep playing games at Max in the future.

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Point 2 is stupid and clearly not thought out. By that logic everyone should only buy 690's.

Everyone has a budget and a performance ratio they need. Unless the op actually needs the additional performance there is no point in going for flag ship cards. Granted, its nice to have some headroom, but if op is just wanting a media center that is 720p or 1080p then there are better thing to spend money on.

Also, the additional expense to added benefit ratio diminishes exponentially as you go higher up the gpu chart.

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yep thats the reason why i stopped at 660. im not even allowed to play games at home so im just a casual gamer. there is no actual budget but i feel bad getting my parents to pay more for a pc for "school".

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Sorry then. But you did write a gaming PC.
@PPG113 I have experienced it all. Low end PC, high end PC with bad GPU, Good GPU bad PC, Best PC and GPU money could buy at that moment. And for me as a gamer who wanted to play games and for once not think about settings, and cost/performance ratios it's quite a good feeling. I went with a 590GTX that had the same price tag as the rest of my PC together and it has been a "gamers bliss" ever since.

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Granted, its always wonderful to beable to max everything and still have plenty to run another game on another screen however, that still doesnt discount the fact that not everyone has unlimited funds to spend on a "dream machine". If someone has a set budget, its best to go for the sweet spots of price/performance then to go all out in one area. Now that point is moot if you dont have a budget but still.

Your needs and his needs are not the same, even if they might overlap in some areas. We dont know what his entire set up would be, 720p? 1080p? 1440p? 4k? Each one allows for or requires different options.

But to reiterate, it is nice to max everything and still have a lot of headroom, but telling someone/everyone? to only go for the top of the line cards that are brand new is not very smart. If however he could get a 690 on the cheap though...

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660TI if you are budgeted and need an NVIDIA card. 7950 if you dont.

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+1

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ALWAYS buy the latest and the most powerfull GPU that nVidia has made atm.

Why nvidia at this point in time? 670 is the only really good nvidia card worth buying now, since 7970 perform better than 680s and are cheaper, 690s are useless since its throttled (might as well get 670/680).

Any card cheaper goes AMD as well, offering better performance for the same price or less.

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You will need some good after market cooler if you mean to overclock that i5 ,but if you dont want to overclock getting that i5 3570K is useless ,get standard 3570 and take gtx660ti .

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Actually, for 20 bucks you get a much better integrated graphics chip and the OPTION to later overclock. Also, some shops both chips cost the exact same, in which case the k version would be the much better buy.

Also, to explain, just because he is getting a dedicated graphics solution does not mean he wont run into trouble with it or any number of things where he might need to use the onboard chip. Example, I have the 3570k and have had to switch to it for a few months after selling my GTX460 and again just recently having sold my 560TI. So id say thats 20 extra bucks was well placed even if I didnt overclock, which I do, but still.

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i was originally gonna get the standard version but everyone here told be to just pay up the $10 incase i wanna do it 3 years later after my entended warranty.

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Buy Radeon graphics cards only :P

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i5
gtx 660ti
8gb
and ok motherboard :P

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i guess theres no need to use intel srt if im making the 120gb SSD my boot drive am i correct?

i read online that people say to disable system restore and pagefile inorder to optimize the SSD. what do you guys think?

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