Hello good folks!

Nice to see you here!

I am planning on building a new PC in the forseeable future (its just a plan yet, but hopefully executable soon) and while I am mostly sure about what I want to do with my supposed budget, I am kinda uncertain about the keyboard.

After gathering info online for weeks and checking out a few keyboards in Mediamarkt, I decided that I would like to buy my first mechanical keyboard, but as I never had one so far, I cant decide which one would be the best choice.

The price I am willing and able to pay for it is around 70 USD/ ~64 EUR.
Nothing is set in stone yet, but my current candidates are either the Hama Urage Exodus 900 or the Redragon Kumara, brown switch version of both.


Reasoning:

I would like a repsonsive KB that has firm feedback and cant be easily pushed down just by the pure weight of my fingers resting on them, and I'd like one that is not as loud as most of the blue switch keyboards, hence I guess brown may be the best for me. TKL is not a problem, but I'd rather keep it 80% or above.

I am NOT an RGB fan. LED is secondary to me, and I especially dislike the ones that exclusively display the full rainbow spectrum at once. So LED is not a must, but if there is and it can be set to something else than a "puke of colors" (I am sorry RGB enthusiasts), lets say, it can be set to red lights that complement a black keyboard elegantly, I would rather prefer that.

So why this two KB, you might ask?

The Redragon just looks nice and I've generally encountered more positive reviews about it.

The Hama one seems practical with the dedicated volume scroll and the armrest but the brand itself is said to have a rather mixed judgement, especially with how their products stand the test of time.


If you happened to have experience with either of the above mentioned keyboards, or have a different recommendation thats about this price range, or any experience you might share regarding mechanical keyboards, its all welcome. And thank you very much! :)

To reward your attention in a small way, show me how efficient you are with your keyboards!
I guess you should type cm5Lh somewhere, to REVITAlize this thread in case the main topic is not interesting enough. But dont overdo it and type xeiBf accidentally, as that would shine a light on the SHADY PART OF ME.

1 year ago*

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Which would you recommend?

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So without extensive mechanical keyboard knowledge (have been a laptop gamer almost my entire life due travels, etc) I will give you a few pieces of advice.

First things first. As I'm sure you already know, $70 for a KB isn't that high, you are looking att medium budget KB's. And as such there are always going to be a few good ones among a ton of crappy ones in that segment. I would seriously consider raising that ceiling $30-50 to get into a whole other level of keyboards. After all; the keyboard is what you put your hands on, you will feel it everyday, this is your interface. But then again; A budget is a budget, and if that's where you are, then that's where you are. So don't go on reviews only, make sure you go to the store and get a hands-on feel of both KB's (even if you buy them online later on) so you don't get any surprises when it is delivered to you. You might be happily surprised by one and appalled by the other, who knows - just go have a feel.

Again, without any knowledge of these two KB's - I'm just assuming you have done your homework and they are similarly good;
Get the big one.
You will be doing other stuff than just gaming on your laptop, and then the extra space/buttons comes in handy. The volume knob is a god-sent gift to mankind (it should be a crime to produce KB's without), the media buttons are useful, and the G-line buttons I guess are programmeable for the user? Also good. The larger KB also have the hand rest which will help your wrists on longer bouts.

Good luck.

1 year ago*
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I always got more or less high end mice with good reviews, but for keyboards I've only ever had issues with the expensive ones for whatever reason... I am currently using a mechanical keyboard from Amazon Basics that I got for ~30 GBP 2-3 years ago, and a friend of mine who buys $150+ keyboards had to replace 2 in the past 5 years or so... I guess getting used to typing on different keyboards is all I need, and as long as the keyboard isn't pure shit, anything works, while mechanical is obviously better.

I'd advise to research reviews and get the keyboard with the better and more reviews that fits your budget. I'd personally value longevity over a few more features I'd most likely forget to use, so I guess skip on the Hama and go for the other one or something else.

Also, thanks. :)

1 year ago
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I have since 20+ years first edition of logitech ultrax flat and don't even think to change, i like it very much.
ps - A little offtopic, in this time i had the only 2 optical mouses ever, both i liked very much too, first logitech mx518 until scroll has broken totally and currently zowie fk1, from some years there are some double clicks but not terrible amount and it is not progressing, i don't see great replacements for them and all prices are much higher now so i still use it.

1 year ago
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To be honest, I wouldn't pay that much for the Hama. There's plenty of "cheaper" alternatives on Amazon from Chinese sellers that are just as good (since it's basically the same Redragon or Hama buy and get branded for them).
Also, the type of keys matter and the keys you mention (brown and red switches) are quite different. Inform yourself about differences in switches, then decide what you might like the most and search for keyboards available with that kind of switch. And I'm not talking about switch manufactures but general type, as you can get switches with the same properties from several different companies built in even more different manufacturer's keybourds.

I personally have several mechanical keyboards but the one I like the most is a Fnatic miniStreak with silent red switches. Although the keyboard is nice and the software does its job (could be better), what I like most about it are the silent red switches. Now I don't think they are too different from regular switches but after years of using old spring click keyboards in the late 90s and early '00s, many years of blue switches and periods of brown and silver switches, the silent red certainly are my favorite.

Anyways, you said you want a responsive feedback - you'll get that with good non-mechanical keyboards as well. You said you want the buttons to press by the weight of your fingers alone - then browns aren't for you. Go with red or find switches that are even lighter. But both of these are contrary properties - either you want very light switches or good feedback. For me the best combination of both are indeed silent red switches (I get the feedback by bottoming out on a damped switch base - the extra rubber in the bottom is why they are "silent") but these are, from what I know, out of your price range.
So rather think again if you really need a mechanical keyboard (a 20-50€ rubberdome or otherwise keyboard might do the trick) or if you simply just want to have one. Again, pick the switch you want, try that type if possible (like you did at Mediamarkt) and then look for affordable models (since this is your first one and you might not like what you get after a while) on Amazon (or the like). Some years back I had a really great 68 key blue switch keyboard that was only 40€ - with no lighting at all - that I've used for years. Maybe start with something like that. You can always upgrade again in a few years if you feel like you need something different, likely more expensive then.

EDIT: There's a Redragon on Amazon Germany without lighting at all and red switches for 39€. So that might be a good starter for you, assuming Amazon Germany is where you likely are going to shop online for something like that. It's called "Redragon K552 Mechanische Gaming Tastatur 60% Mini TKL Keyboard mit Rote Schalter 87 Tasten für PC Gaming OHNE Beleuchtung - DE QWERTZ (Schwarz)". There's also a white version available for 1€ more on the same page. Both of them are a good start.

1 year ago*
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This may be a rather unpopular opinion, but I don't really like any of the recent brands/models for mechanical keyboards. They all seem to focus on led lighting and gimmicks rather than reliability and durability. There used to be mechanical keyboards long before someone rediscovered and marketed the concept for gaming. Fortunately, you can still buy those old keyboards on ebay, just look for a Cherry G81, MY or MX. They're available refurbished or in rare cases even brand new and they're usually much cheaper than any recent model. Be sure to look for a photo description of the label on the back, the good ones were made in Germany or Czech Republic, those keyboards are nearly indestructible (unless you spill soft drinks on them - you can smash your fist on them, though). They just don't make keyboards like those any more.

1 year ago
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I've had many mechanical keyboards and, like you, I really don't like the RGB factor either. So I always make sure I could configure them to run with static white backlighting... which really helps in a darkened room BTW!. Anyhoo, I bought a sweet Corsair K95 with Cherry MX-Blues a couple years ago for over $200. It had everything I wanted/needed in a mech, except that it didn't last through the COVID lockdown. Unfortunately since I wasn't able to get it fixed or replaced through warranty, I've been using my old Redragon K580 Vata with blue switches as a backup with pretty much the same features I demand from a keyboard, and this is about 3/4 less the price for a high end brand like the Corsair. (The only thing it lacked was a wrist rest, but that wasn't a big deal because I already had one made with memory foam.) Let me tell you this thing is a beast! Granted, this is not the first Redragon product I've bought and I can tell you their keyboards are extremely durable, which is great if you have kids that are rough with them.

1 year ago
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Haven't really owned any mechanical keyboard, but there are obvious differences between your choices. The former is more expensive but involves 10 number pad keys on the right. The latter is cheaper (actually it's even cheaper than I would expect... doubt if it would mean the product is not durable enough) but doesn't have those keys on the right. If you don't mind the absence of keys, the latter might be a good option.
In my opinion, I don't like to go for the brands with mixed reviews.

1 year ago
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I'm not familiar with either of your selected keyboards, but given the choice, I'd definitely go with the Exodus keyboard, just because the Kumara lacks a number pad. I don't just play games on my PC, and for any kind of data entry, math, typing PINs, etc, a number pad is 100X more useful than the number row above the letter keys. Having a keyboard without a number pad would drive me absolutely insane. I know you can buy number pads separately, but that really seems like a kludge.

Having never heard of either Redragon or Hama, though, I'd probably be inclined to go with a third option, even if it meant spending a few more dollars on something that I could have a bit more confidence in.

1 year ago
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