Grabed the Tier 1! Couldn't go wrong with that! Risen is really dpe and Insurgency seems decent :)
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I'm not sure what to do with this one. There are some pretty decent games worth the price, but to be honest, I don't feel like playing any of them.
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Nice bundle :) I will buy tier II for wishlisted Dead in Bermuda... but other games (like The Masterplan, Toren) also looks interesing.
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Interested on Tier 2, maybe i get even the Tier 3... Will see...
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This is a good start on a chart, now, in order for this to work with the chart enhancer script, the game titles have to be in bold.
Also, you have the part about Tier 1 in the chart header, rather than just above the chart where it should be.
It also wouldn't hurt if you centered the values inside the chart (except for the title column).
Lastly, you forgot the column about the number of times a game has been bundled.
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Well I never tried to make it work with the chart enhancer script, I don't even know how that script works, I don't know how to make the game titles in bold either. I changed tier 1 being in the chart header. I also changed the values being centered. Lastly, I honestly didn't forget, I don't know how (eventhough I could easily find out how) the amount of times the game has been bundled, for me this isn't really that important. I just made this because I had some free time, not trying to replace anyone.
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Thanks for updating the chart. It works with the script now. Thank you, again!
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I am tempted by tier 1 for risen 3. I have 2 weeks to decide, oh well, nothing urgent.
Higher tiers would just fill my library with unplayed games.
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You gotta love the EU pricing
Great bundle though.
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wat wat? After 3 months i have to buy BS bundle! 1,5 Tier sure, 2 is too much
lol?
Purchasing Restriction: You are only permitted to buy two copies of an individual product
bought 1, wanted 2... well lol f**** bundlestars
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So painful, i just wanted Toren, it's a miss for me i think :<
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WOW! Risen 3 is my wishlisted game, only for $1,49, wanted to buy it for $5 before, hope this bundle will last enough so I can buy it =p
Sad that there are no DLCs included =c
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Damm Broken Sword 5 - the Serpent's Curse .
Just need the 4th one to pop up and the job is complete :)
If i enjoy playing games like the Mass Effect Series ,d'ya think i'll also like The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing III ?
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Van Helsing has nothing to do with Mass Effect. It's more like a "diablo clone", so if you like Torchlight, Diablo 2/3, Titan Quest, hack'n slash with clichê story and character with plenty enemies to kill and an eternal loot hunt, it's a win.
It's primarily a "click to kill", but has joystick support as well. And online coop.
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Thanks ,i just wanted to get an idea of the game-play from someone who knows a bit ,sounds alright .
I used to play a lot of those games way back .
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Question: I already own Van Helsing FC from the humble monthly. If I were to get tier 3 of this bundle for van helsing 3 and try to get the free Final Cut key for owning the original trilogy, would it give me one? Or would it not because I already own it on steam?
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It will not work. However there is a workaround that I did. You can temporarely remove the Final Cut from your steam account, then go here and get your additional final cut key. Afterwards you can reactivate your own version.
But i think if the new key turns out to be a duplicate, which seems to happen sometimes, you might not get a replacement from their support. Anyway, it's still a free key :)
Edit:
To remove a game log into Steam and go to:
Help -> Steam support -> Games, Software, etc. ... -> Search for : The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing: Final Cut -> I want to permanently remove this game from my steam account -> Ok, remove the listed game from my Steam Account.
Then get your additional key from http://neocoregames.com
After that you can get your own game back with:
Help -> Steam support -> Games, Software, etc. ... -> Search for : The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing: Final Cut -> It's not in my library -> "restore" (I don't remember the exact term, but it's something like this)
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And it will let me reuse my old humble bundle key if it doesn't give me a dupe? How often do people get dupe keys with this method? Just want to make sure I don't lose my game or extra money before I buy this.
I was hoping to give the game away, but if it could be a dupe key I'd rather not take the risk.
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I made an edit above. You keep your own original game-key associated to your account forever even if it says "permanently removed". You don't have to use the new key on your account. It is save - don't worry.
I remember that some people had trouble with dupe keys. Maybe it was just an issue when the game was released. On the neocore site they state that you have to make a screenshot of the steam pop-up that shows that their key doesn't work, but I guess as you own a license (from HB), you won't get that specific error message (but I'm not sure).
Well I took the risk and made a giveaway for their key. Hope people are kind to let me remove the ga if it's a dupe - or I try to get a new one from support. I'm not sure if they REALLY won't give me a new one.
Edit: Cleaned up the spelling a bit. I hope it's clearer now. Sorry, i still sruggle with this language! :)
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Depends. If the site wants to give the final cut to everybody who already bought all three parts of the game then people like us should be eligible, too. Just because we - also bought - the final cut version previously, means we are the ones who also miss out on our "free treat".
I get that some people might frown about this, but then I see all the people who make their profits through re-selling bundles or reselling free game promotions, I don't feel too bad about this.
However, I merely just wanted to find out if this workaround worked and now some random person on the internet gets something nice for free.
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Well, from the dev's perspective it surely is a dick move, you are taking advantage of their generosity and potentially costing them a sale.
From your perspective, sure, a free game for someone or $/stuff for you, but it still involves exploiting a goodwill measure implemented to give people who got the first 3 access to the improved version, not to give you an extra copy because you got the final version elsewhere.
You can do whatever you want, but I'd think it's clear.
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You are wrong, I don't cost them sales. I was eligible for a free copy, which I gave away and I also bought a copy for myself.
The only thing that is the different is the order in which I did this and I just think it's "unfair" that Im locked out from my free copy.
I don't make a buck with their free copy and I'm not exploiting their good will and their generosity. I do not steal anything from them, that they would not have given me anyway, if I had not yet activated my purchased Final Cut copy. You throw me in a corner I don't belong to.
I understand that everybody can see that differently, and everybody should decide that for themself. As I mentioned: I understand that people would frown upon that.
However, I'm sure some can understand that I could also see it as a "dickmove" (well, that wouldn't be my word of choice) that, because I bought the game on my own, I'm no longer eligible for my free copy.
"Why can't I have free things, too?"
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I was eligible for a free copy, which I gave away
Hence potentially costing them a sale.
I don't make a buck with their free copy and I'm not exploiting their good will and their generosity. I do not steal anything from them, that they would not have given me anyway, if I had not yet activated my purchased Final Cut copy. You throw me in a corner I don't belong to.
( ͝° ͜ʖ͡°) So? It was an example. Getting an extra copy is exploiting the system, yes, they would have given it to you, does that make it right?
But I'm sure some can understand that I could also see it as a "dickmove" (that wouldn't be my word of choice) that I'm no longer eligible for my free copy because I bought the game on my own. "Why can't I have free things, too?"
Because you don't need it... in a nutshell:
Why shouldn't you get welfare money when other people do? Does the possibility that you can use it to buy food for the poor make it right?
Like I said, you can do what you want to do, don't get so offended over nothing.
If you are so convinced you are on the right why would you care?
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Like I said, you can do what you want to do, don't get so offended over nothing.
If you are so convinced you are on the right why would you care?
I did not get offended in any way. You posted your opinion on this and I just wanted to share with you my line of thoughts. I just defended my views. I also don't say, that I'm "right", I just wanted to make my view clear.
Hence potentially costing them a sale.
They never mentioned that those copies shouldn't be given away. In fact I believe a lot of those copies were given away to friends or family members. I mean, those who were eligible for their copy, already had experienced the game.
Getting an extra copy is exploiting the system, yes, they would have given it to you, does that make it right?
But you make that sound like I exploited two free copies from them. I just wanted one - the one that was given to everybody that owned all the 3 parts of the game. I think it would have been "wrong" if I missed out on that promotion.
Because you don't need it
Did anybody need this Final Cut? The people who had the game already, surely wouldn't have. To me it's merely a gift of appretiation for people who supported them in the past - a gift i didn't get and that seemed unfair to me. Again, I missed out on this, because I payed for it.
(I won't comment on that comparisson, though. Seems kind of weird.)
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They never mentioned that those copies shouldn't be given away. In fact I believe a lot of those copies were given away to friends or family members. I mean, those who were eligible for their copy, already had experienced the game.
I don't think it takes reading between the lines to tell that it's intended for personal use, but sure, they could have clarified it.
https://www.neocoregames.com/2015/11/the-incredible-adventures-of-van-helsing-final-cut-is-here/
But you make that sound like I exploited two free copies from them. I just wanted one - the one that was given to everybody that owned all the 3 parts of the game. I think it would have been "wrong" if I missed out on that promotion.
Did anybody need this Final Cut? The people who had the game already, surely wouldn't have. To me it's merely a gift of appreciation for people who supported them in the past - a gift i didn't get and that seemed unfair to me. Again, I missed out on this, because I paid for it.
Like I said, we seem to disagree on the basic purpose of the promotion:
You justify it by having defined the promo as have 3 games a free 4th game, when it seems to me that the point of the promotion was have 3 get access to the 4th. Access which you already having would mean you don't need to (or shouldn't qualify for) the promotion. Yes, the way it's implemented you can make use of it, and yes you can take that as having the dev's tacit approval. I just wouldn't agree.
Another attempt at an example:
There's a soup kitchen where everyone gets a free plate, but you already ate elsewhere. Does it make sense for you to get a free plate of soup now that you are full, just because they would give it to you?
Did anybody need this Final Cut? The people who had the game already, surely wouldn't have.
If we are using need as implying a high necessity then yeah, you don't need videogames, I do not see the point in discussing that.
If you mean people who own the 3 games wouldn't need the upgrade. that's debateable, but irrelevant as the devs clearly believe it's worth playing that version of the series. I owned the games but hadn't played them so it was good for me. Had I owned the FC would I have done this to get an extra copy, probably, but not having any misapprehensions on it being a dick move. I'd just say own it and do whatever you feel is right.
I sent them a message asking how they felt about it, since it might be worth having a semi-official word on it, though, they'll probably respond that it's fine since it's good PR and they seem like nice people. So it's probably not very useful, but at least they can clarify whether they were intended for personal use.
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I thought you were out?
You wanted to express your opinion on this (with a rather rude gif) and I tried to explain my view about this. I understand that your views differ and I understand that you interpret things differently.
I also don't act as if I'm "right" about this, but it seems that you value your view on this more than the the thoughts others have. After you repeatedly told me that I can do what I want and expressed that you don't want to argue, I find it strange that you still feel the need to tell me that my actions are "wrong".
Oh well:
I don't think it takes reading between the lines to tell that it's intended for personal use, but sure, they could have clarified it.
But it needs reading between the lines then. You read something into their promotion that I do not. I don't think they care what I do with my copy. If they wanted it for personal use only, they should have told so, other dev's do that, too.
I mean I could also say "They should have clarified, that I can do with my copy whatever I want", because that's my point of view.
For example they could have done it like Nordic or Take 2 , those publishers just added Darksiders, respectively Bioshock to my steam library. Why didn't that happen with Van Helsing?
Like I said, we seem to disagree on the basic purpose of the promotion
Yes, we do. I repetedly told you that. But you seem to be unable to understand why I made my the decission the way I did.
There's a soup kitchen where everyone gets a free plate, but you already ate elsewhere. Does it make sense for you to get a free plate of soup now that you are full, just because they would give it to you?
I really dislike those comparissions. They are unnecessary to get the point and just add misconceptions. As much as I would want to point out the problems with this I'll leave it at that.
If we are using need as implying a high necessity then yeah, you don't need videogames, I do not see the point in discussing that.
You pointed out that I should not get another copy, because I had already bought one. You said I don't need another one. That's why we talk about need.
If you mean people who own the 3 games wouldn't need the upgrade. that's debateable, but irrelevant as the devs clearly believe it's worth playing that version of the series. I owned the games but hadn't played them so it was good for me.
Again, I didn't start the discussion about need. I just said that I feel as much eligible as anyone else who has all three games to receive a free copy of the game.
Besides why would you "need" the final cut if you don't even know if you would like the base game? At least I can make a giveaway for a game that I enjoyed and share my enjoyment with others. Maybe the dev's think that's more valuable than giving away their copy for "+1"-purposses?
You value different things about this promotion and that's perfectly fine, what's not so great is, is that you don't seem to be able to comprehend the thoughts others have on this.
While you repeatedly pointed out that I can do what I want (jeah I know), you can also not stop telling me that this is a dickmove, which implies to me that my actions are "bad" or "wrong" - all that, while I'm trying to express to you, that I feel that this is more of a "moral grey area", where anybody should think for themselves, what they feel is right.
I don't have any misapprehensions about this and I don't act as my views are more valuable than the ones others have, I just point out why I feel this way and acted like this.
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I thought you were out?
I was. I went to sleep and just woke up. :)
You wanted to express your opinion on this (with a rather rude gif)
It's a .jpg. I get that since you were offended by it, you find it rude I meant it more as a joke than anything, it wasn't meant to start a discussion for which I agree it wouldn't be a well-mannered first step.
I also don't act as if I'm "right" about this,
We all do otherwise there would be no point in arguing you'd just agree and call it a day. We'll end up agreeing to disagree.
but it seems that you value your view on this more than the the thoughts others have.
As do you. I place value on logically sound ideas and properly substantiated beliefs, which is why I disagreed with your assertions. They don't seem like the correct conclusion to me so I pointed out what was fallacious.
After you repeatedly told me that I can do what I want and expressed that you don't want to argue,
I didn't want to waste my time, so I gave you an out (see below). I acknowledged your point, but it's based on a premise I disagreed with.
I find it strange that you still feel the need to tell me that my actions are "wrong".
I was just calling you out for acting like it's a benevolent act. You might as well own it.(see (*))
I really dislike those comparisons. They are unnecessary to get the point and just add misconceptions. As much as I would want to point out the problems with this I'll leave it at that.
They don't seem to be unnecessary since the point doesn't seem to be getting across.
Besides why would you "need" the final cut if you don't even know if you would like the game?
I might as well play the best version. "Hadn't played yet" isn't the same as "never will play".
is that you don't seem to be able to comprehend the thoughts others have on this.
I understand your point just fine, but I just tried to point out that it's based on a faulty premise. I don't believe I have been stubborn in this discussion. I have repeatedly asked you to consider what the intention of the promotion was and acknowledged that taking a different, perhaps shallow view of it your interpretation may be justified.
While you repeatedly pointed out that I can do what I want (yeah I know), you can also not stop telling me that this is a dickmove,
Only said it once, then proceeded to explain when you called me out on it. You keep bringing it up.
which implies to me that my actions are "bad" or "wrong" - all that, while I'm trying to express to you, that I feel that this is more of a moral grey area, where anybody should think for themselves, what they feel is right.
(*)I can do something that I consider unethical, I'd just prefer not to incorrectly make myself feel that it is ethical.
I agree with you that with no clarification from the devs you can rationalize out of that grey area.
I don't have any misapprehensions about this and I don't act as my views are more valuable than the ones others have,
I disagree. But if you think I am committing a fallacy by holding my contrary view on it as superior and substantiated it with nothing more than "this is right because I believe it" either you haven't understood my point or I've failed to express in a way you find it intelligible.
I just point out why I feel this way.
As did I.
Thanks for the chat nonetheless.
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lol.... I don't even know where we are now here. I think there is a limit to how often one can make these cuts and I think we are way off the initial point anyway.
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I see what you're saying in the comments below but here's my piece:
First off, its kind of a dick move for you to just call something a dick move right off the bat dude. You could've at least started the conversation more maturely and stated your opinions and reasoning.
Second, like sappy said, the devs are the ones choosing to give away the free copy. If they didn't want people like me to be able to get my copy for getting the trilogy at a later date, they could have just set a cutoff date for the promotion. Or they could've just had it unlock on they steam accounts of people who owned the entire trilogy on the day it was released. Keeping the promo open is their choice.
Third and finally, I don't see it as taking advantage. I would have paid for their 3 previous games from past bundles and paid for it as part of the humble monthly. So i paid for both an actual copy of the final cut legitimately and for the 3 previous titles legitimately.
If I had simply not redeemed the Final Cut copy I got as part of the humble monthly and instead waited for the third to be added to a bundle in order to unlock my free copy, would you still consider it a dick move? Cuz either way I still pay the same amount, its just the order of things that differ. Either way I'm still debating anyway. If there is a chance of a dupe key I might just get the second copy to try to give to my friend who can't afford it so we can play it together.
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The difference is that you are interpreting the upgrade system as if it was intended to give a free copy (to do with as you please) to whoever owns the 3 games regardless of owning the final cut. I don't agree.
First off, its kind of a dick move for you to just call something a dick move right off the bat dude. You could've at least started the conversation more maturely and stated your opinions and reasoning.
LOL, right off the bat.... Yeah I needed to explain how getting an extra copy of a game you own out of a free upgrade system intended for you to get a personal copy wasn't right (hence the clearly). I didn't expect you to rationalize your actions thusly, yeah calling you guys out was a dick move ◔_◔
Second, like sappy said, the devs are the ones choosing to give away the free copy. If they didn't want people like me to be able to get my copy for getting the trilogy at a later date, they could have just set a cutoff date for the promotion. Or they could've just had it unlock on they steam accounts of people who owned the entire trilogy on the day it was released. Keeping the promo open is their choice.
Yes, you can try to rationalize your conclusion instead of the other way around....
Yeah they are giving tacit approval to your usage by allowing people who get the 3 games to get a free upgrade. ◔_◔
And, you have no responsibility for making this decision, you are just using the systems as they were implemented, so that makes it right?
Third and finally, I don't see it as taking advantage. I would have paid for their 3 previous games from past bundles and paid for it as part of the humble monthly. So i paid for both an actual copy of the final cut legitimately and for the 3 previous titles legitimately.
You did, did you also pay for a second copy of the Final Cut?
Honestly, Do you really think the point of the promotion is a free copy for you to do whatever you want with and not just a free upgrade for personal use? If so, It's beyond my powers.
If I had simply not redeemed the Final Cut copy I got as part of the humble monthly and instead waited for the third to be added to a bundle in order to unlock my free copy, would you still consider it a dick move? Cuz either way I still pay the same amount, its just the order of things that differ. Either way I'm still debating anyway. If there is a chance of a dupe key I might just get the second copy to try to give to my friend who can't afford it so we can play it together.
Yes. It's the same, this just makes it more evident. Free $ for you depending on what you do with it.
Would you also feel justified to use the system to remove another game to get a free copy of that game (time limited giveaway) and resell your original copy?
It's similar to taking advantage of a price glitch in a retailer, you are just doing what the established systems allow, despite them not operating correctly. If the purpose of a system is irrelevant to your use of it, then there's no point in this discussion.
Do whatever you want, like I told the other guy.
All I'm pointing out is whether it's right or not. If I did this I wouldn't pretend it was a nice thing to do to the developer who did a nice thing for me/others.
Have a nice and fun day nonetheless.
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Well, I have read through your post and have decided not to try to get a free copy. You said I have already made up my mind, but I hadn't, and I don't feel it was fair of you to judge me like that.
After reading your post and giving it some thought I do agree with you, but I also understand where sappy is coming from as well. We all are entitled to our opinions after all. I still feel you could have expressed your opinions in a more friendly manner, though I understand conversations like this can become a bit heated. Just please don't assume that you know what kind of person I am right away.
Anyway I appreciate your input and the conversation. Now I just need to decide whether or not I want tier 3 now just to complete my trilogy or just wait to see if it ends up in a cheaper bundle. And I hope you have a nice day as well.
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I'm sorry.
It just seemed to me like you were trying to justify it being a nice thing to do, rather than just being like "it's a dick move, but who cares". People lying to themselves is a bit of a trigger of mine, I have people with addiction issues in my family and that's the kind of mentality I have to deal with.
I agree with him though that the devs made no real effort to clarify whether they agreed with this.
Heck, I'll send them an email and let you know if they are ok with someone giving the extra copy to a friend. They seemed cool enough in the past.
Thanks for keeping an open mind and sorry that I came off as a dick. See the Stark pic. I said I was an ass ;)
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Thanks for the reply man, and I really appreciate you saying that :)
I'm sorry to hear you have to deal with that kind of thing at home and I want you to know that I wish both you and your family the best.
Hope you have a great night :)
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People lying to themselves is a bit of a trigger of mine
Goddamnit... I really hope your not referring to me. Look you have your morals and you decide for yourself what's right and what's wrong - in your world.
But, you can not just transfer that to others. I value different things and decide what I feel is right and what is wrong for myself.
In order to bring these ideas together, we make laws and rules, so everyone is on the same page and knows what in their society is right and what is wrong. Obviously when we don't have any laws regarding this, we need to decide again for ourselves what we value.
I'm also well aware, why someone would see this as a dickmove, but I choose, to act like this, because I do not see any harm done to anyone. I choose to act like this, after I "consulted my values" and I'm just sharing this view - even if you say that it's just a "dickmove" in your world.
But you really seem to think that there is an overall moral that decides these things for us, while we actually have to come up with solutions ourselves. The one who is lying to themself and doesn't seem to understand that there are other points of views, other ideas, is you.
And I'm sorry that you have deal with addictions in your family, but I have to deal with that, too, and also that person is so full of his own morals and world-views, that he is incapable of taking on his own problems. Because he so caught in his moral bias, he is incapable of seeing his addictions and bad life choices and all the troubles he caused. His lying to himself started when he thought that there is a "right" way to life and everyone who doesn't comply to that idea just makes the world bad - and with that he justifies his addiction.
Again I understand why you see things your way, but please don't act as if I'm just a guy, who acts for his own gain and tries to justify that in any way possible. That, I can assure you, is an injustified insult towards me.
Oh well, that got a bit out of hand..... I think we should just stop here. I don't see there is a point in arguing on. We made our points clear. So be it.
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Hope to had one! :D I think it worth the buy tier 2! :D
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Easy choice, Buy & GiveAway the 1s i have to this great website ( i call it that for now, sure think i will get to know the community soon)
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Thanks for posting this! Polls obviously aren't necessary, but it would be helpful for the table to say whether each game has been bundled before or not.
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https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/nemesis-bundle
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Tier 2 EUR: 5.39, USD: 4.99, GBP: 4.59, CAD: 6.59
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