Should I get suspended again?
In soviet steamgifts, the gifts report themselves or something
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In plain english please, I don't understand you :/
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Um... I think... He made gibs, leecher won, he refused to send to leecher, was suspended.
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From what I've understood it means winning games and not giving away any (or enough). How much is enough one may ask, well, there is a huge grey area subjected to personal opinion that may or may not include someone in the leecher category. In short, the leecher lies in the eyes of the beholder.
There is a semantic analysis of the word leecher in this boring doc here for the interested audience.
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That article is completely flawed, leeches are real.
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You know, at the beginning I thought that you clicked the link and actually read the ehm "article" ehm, but then I see that you blacklisted me and realized that the thing totally flew over your head... That's sad and funny a the same time, you gave me a good laugh, thanks!
Have a nice day.
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You've been waiting for someone to make that typo, haven't you :P
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I believe he made a giveaway, a moderator that he calls leecher won, he refused to give the key/gift and got suspended for fake giveaway
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Oh, I guess I was wrong. It seems he made a giveaway, for some reason he didn't want to deliver then a moderator that he calls leecher suspended him for fake giveaway
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Nah, he has no moderators among the not received/awaiting feedback. The last one (still on awaiting feedback) was won by somebody who I guess he considers a leecher (since he last gave away over a year ago), so he refused to deliver. One of the moderators suspended him for it.
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Updated :p.
Btw, even though that's true I guess you should remove the name or that would be calling out.
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Hmm, ok, edited just in case (though not sure it's calling out since there is no ratio rule and moderator list is public XD)
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You never know, it doesn't worth to risk a suspension :)
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the calling out rule is honestly ridiculous it serves no point that i can fathom and only serves to further hackers/thief's ect ect
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It's to protect people from false accusations. Imagine if I had a gripe with you, and made the false statement that all the games I won from you were revoked, or that you scammed me. That could get you into trouble. (For the record, I've never won anything from TherealDarknes, nor has TherealDarknes scammed me, it was just an example). It also prevents new users who make generous giveaways from getting attacked (this is something that has happened several times, a new user makes a giveaway from a high profile game, and then people start accusing him/her of doing a fake giveaway because they think they know that it's fake. This rule at least cuts down on this kind of behavior)
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fair enough i gusse i just think there acting to harshly on it i mean this guy had to ask if he was calling out himself
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Haha, I was going to look through the open GA to see what the problem was but I've been blacklisted by him.
Why didn't you use sgtools when you made your GAs like so many others have done instead of not delivering keys to the rightful winners?
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Has anyone figured this out yet?
Google translate isn't helping. :X
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It seems he made a giveaway, for some reason he didn't want to deliver then a moderator that he calls leecher suspended him for fake giveaway
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As others said: use sgtools. Also, if it's important to you, you could also try requesting the maker of the tools to add a restriction regarding the date of the last giveaway made by the user or something similar, he might agree to implement it.
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I would like Steamgifts to make available similar options instead, so I can do public GA's.
Yeah, I know.
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Is this a joke topic or are you having a stroke? I'm calling 911 either way.
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If you make public giveaways, you take the good with the bad. You broke the rules, you got punished. You need to deal with it in a mature manner, not by being a whiny child. If you want winners to meet your criteria, use SGtools next time.
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This.
Or you could blacklist everyone you don't like, but you still won't be able to reroll.
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Hello, Geosmin.
We have a set of rules which describe how winners are picked and how rerolls are handled. Those rules are the same for everyone.
Winners are picked at random from the available pool of entries in a giveaway. Giveaway can be rerolled if the winner is unreachable or if he violated the site rules and hasn't been punished for it yet. Otherwise, you're obliged to deliver the game to the winner. Creating giveaways with no intention of delivering them is a violation of the site terms of service and may lead to account suspension.
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I believe you've already served a suspension for that.
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I guess that doesn't make much sense IF I do it everytime I feel like it, and I only get 5 days once/total.
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Well, if you keep doing it, you'll be suspended again. So try to refrain from doing it.
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Can I get suspended from a proper moderator like you at least?
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why do you want to get suspended? you can use sgtools to create giveaways for the people you want... so everybody can join as long as he has the ratio you want or what ever you want...
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STOP. Your using reason and trying to help. Do you know where you are? This is the internet. Never do that again!
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well that was depressing, saw him have a Recettear: An Item Shop's Tale giveaway going, so i jump in and turns out im blacklisted. so sad lol. but i understand my ratio sucks. i blame society and obama lol
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Its funny , cus i got the 2 obvious not recieved guys in my blacklist ... keep up the good work , i cheer for you friend .
Also w8ing to see who the 3rd one was/is .
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As you understood properly, yes, it's my way of protesting. Though, I'm not trying to get more people to follow me or anything like that.
The thing is that SteamGifts endorses extreme leechers by not punishing them in ANY way.
I do and will continue until I'm not welcome anymore.
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You are welcomed in my whitelist .
we need more ppl like you tbh .
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There is no rule in the Guidelines or in the Terms of Service that defines leeching. So using "leeching" as an excuse to not deliver the game is not acceptable. Members are responsible for managing their blacklists and using private/group giveaways to prevent unwanted entries, but if a user entered your giveaway without violating any of the site rules, he is eligible to receive the game.
You are free to disagree and refuse to send the game to the winners you don't like, but you will lose giveaway slots with each such giveaway and you will risk a suspension.
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^^ Purrfectly reasonable. You are a wise moderator, not to say I have ran into one lacking wisdom because I have not. But that was well put. The guy disagreed and got suspended fair is fair. He didn't want to share(I don't blame him), he broke rules and was punished.(I don't blame SG)
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I get punished, can't report myself, leechers leech.
Everything makes sense.
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Reporting yourself doesn't really make sense I never thought it would be a thing but yeah. More power to ya! Sorry you couldn't turn yourself in. But I am not sorry you got punished. Happy you did what you felt was best. It was your GIB your choice.
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they punish themselves by not leveling up, which prevents them from entering level restricted giveaways.
you just need to up the lv requirement and blacklist those with unwanted cv ratio.
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Eh. That's not a failsafe plan. I mean, it's far better than if you were to do low levels, but there's always bad Ratiosseeds, no matter the level.
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yes, but higher-lv = less rule breakers and better ratio overall.
or just make whitelist/group GAs and only add people that fit your criteria.
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Don't bother, he did very well with percentages and statistics in middle school and is now doing a PhD in Astrophysics as a hobby. Also, the government employs him as a disaster prevention consultant.
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FOR REAL? I heard he was working in Michigan... somewhere called Flint is that a town?
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But you can report yourself, just make another account and DO IT :v
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http://www.steamgifts.com/support/tickets/new
User report
then add your own name. I can add mine, I presume you can do that with your own as well then.
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If you try to actually submit this ticket you'll get "You cannot report yourself".
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Wow, I didn't know that :D I thought support is quite busy already, why would I try to actually get a fake report of myself :D
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What makes you think it has to be fake? A good reason to ask for suspension is to ensure it comes early and not when you have an event with dozens of giveaways ending, and no way to deliver. Timing was part of the reason why I asked for one (see post below). I can't detail the whole thing, but it's not hard to guess.
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I literally meant myself this time :) I didn't want to actually try to submit the ticket in case if it goes through.
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Oh, I see. I remembered that it's not possible, but just had to try again to double check. I knew that if it does get accepted I can close it immediately after, without it being even noticed by Support.
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You can actually report yourself. You need to use category Other and explain in the full text that you are reporting yourself. I did it in the past for similar reasons, being a big advocate of not delivering if the winner was bad by my definitions (which didn't focus on leeching).
My request to be suspended wasn't accepted, but it lead to some interesting discussions and positive realizations. I actually do many many more Level 0 public giveaways since, and I do my best to deliver all of my giveaways. I'm in complete peace with this now and have a system that works well for me. I suggest you fine tune yours to find something that makes you happy.
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TLDR: I'm ready to get punished.
ELI5: I get punished, can't report myself, leechers leech.
Conclusion: THERE ARE NO FLAWS IN THE SYSTEM.
I was recently suspended for a 'fake giveaway' by a leecher moderator for not delivering to hematophagous cancer.
Since I did the same for another 2 GA's, I was trying to report myself and be done with it.
Funny thing, I can't.
PS: is this calling myself out?
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