Physical games went away for the future of all digital and so the games now don't even last 4 years before they have to be removed because of some bullshit. I have physical copies of games I can install from 2000 meant for windows 95 and 98 that still work on windows 10 today out of the box. I get it, FH4 is a good game, but shitty company tactics like they all do nowadays.
Decent of them to at least put a sale up, but imo these developers need to learn to stop getting temporary licenses, and go for perma licenses. By the time these games get removed, most of these car models are irrelevant vs new models, so it's not like Ferrari can make the argument that their shit is still relevant 5 years later after they released 4 new models since. These car companies are basically selling devs a license that's dead anyways in 5 years because the models are expired and they've moved on to new models. If the game doesn't have the new models, that's why they go for the new racing game that has the new models. So shitty car companies too, and dumb game company ceo's for even taking the deal.
It's like apple telling you your license to show the ipod touch model in game has expired. Like no shit, so has the device.
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I only count it as the release because it finally came to steam 3 years late, the biggest pc platform, with the same price it had 3 years before. So still $60. Released on steam, it didn't even last 4 years. I get you, it would be 6 years otherwise.
Same with sony games for instance, when they release on steam, that's their release date for me, unless of course they adjust the price accordingly, but of course they didn't, so their release is pushed back to steam's release to me. I don't even consider them from somewhere else if they don't put the proper price on re-releasing to steam. I just consider them beta's, early access, etc. Since all other places are inferior, other than GOG, but let's be honest, how many of these games come to GOG before steam?
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It's almost certain that limited time licenses are all they can get when it comes to dealing with sports and racing, things almost universally owned by billionaires, the literal scum of the Earth.
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You've got a few in Romania, loving life while your fellow Romanians struggle.
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From following music games like Rock Band, over the years, I've gotten the impression perpetual licences are drastically more expensive than expiring ones.
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Exactly. How can for consoles the games are licensed perpetually (most likely because they don't have a choice), but for digital the developers are getting scammed with these temporary deals? Such a predatory tactic, and it should be banned. Any license should last the life time of the product.
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I asked if season change (spring/summer/autumn/winter) will still occur every thursday after delisting.
Players say that probably yes but they can't be sure.
@Zepy Thanks for this info that's very nice of you !
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100 Euro for a digital game, where are we headed next...
Imo, still expensive even at 80% off.
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I have been very wary of publishers selling games for such high prices, only for the game to be greatly disappointing (ex. Diablo 4), but in this case you may be right.
For the ultimate edition, 20 EUR, it does seem like a fair price and I doubt we will see a higher discount or a bundle for it before the delisting date.
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I understand your skepticism. Games prices are now determined not by the quality or the effort that goes into the game but by the size of the studio and by the level of hype surrounding the game (even worse when it comes to franchises) so the higher the price, the worse the disappointment.
With the exception of Motorsport, it seems that the Xbox Games released on Steam have mostly escaped that unfortunate trend though. Even State of Decay 2, which had high expectations to surpass, seemed to have been a hit.
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Apparently the MS store version is superior if you use an Xbox one/series controller because it supports impulse trigger feedback, while the steam version doesn't. This might be something a lot of people won't care about, but just putting it out there. Apparently it's been a known issue since launch and the dev refused to fix it. FH5 doesn't have that issue on steam.
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From what I have read, of the missing dlc cars, the most are included in the car packs, with the exception of the 'hot wheels', but I also read that these can be found at the auction house, can anyone confirm this? and is posible get these in this way without dlc?
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Beware actually you can no more upgrade or buy dlc separately.
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It's funny because most of the games I have bought so far before the Summer Sale have ended either before the Summer Sale or literally A DAY before Summer Sale.
I don't know if it is intentional or not but certainly seems like it.
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See posting below regarding Summer sale. You could buy it now, check tomorrow again. If discount is better then, refund and buy again. If discount is worse, you didn't miss this sale.
Regarding edition: see other comments in this thread already, e.g. https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/5eX6e/steam-forza-horizon-4-80-off#eNcjkxg.
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There's an exclusion for the big sales:
Discounts cannot be run within 30 days of your prior discount, with the exception of Steam-wide seasonal events (Summer, Autumn, Winter and Springs sales).
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Appreciate the heads up, think I'll pick it up during the summer sale, assuming it has at least the same discount.
It's in the blog post as well, but in case anyone was curious and cares, the following achievements will no longer be achievable through legitimate means:
A Creature of Habit - Complete all Seasonal Championships in a Festival Playlist Series.
Stunt Puller - Complete all Seasonal PR Stunts in a Festival Playlist Series.
Cashing In - Earn 1 Season Completion Bonus.
Perfectionist - Earn all 8 Season Completion Bonuses in the same Series.
Encore? - Complete all activities in a single Festival Playlist Series.
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My understanding, which could absolutely be incorrect considering I just started playing, is that the 'Festival Playlist' stuff is all that's going away. The game normally progresses through seasons in-game, so that part won't change. I suspect the 'seasonal championships' are just normal in-game events but I know there were at least a couple achievement guides on Steam if you want to know for sure.
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The one change of real note for achievement hunters is that August 22 will be the last day you can get Festival Playlist cheevos. Just a heads up there. Otherwise, online functionality will remain intact even after it is delisted, according to M$.
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Is there any way to know how long those achievements will take? Not like I am planning to get all achievements for Forza Horizon 4, but if I end up liking the game then why not, right?
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Series = 4 weeks
Tomorrow starts a new series and then on July 25th the last one.
You get a completion bonus per each season (week) and per the whole series upon each 50% and 80% completion.
It's been a while since I played 4 for the last time, so I might mix it up with FH5, but I'd estimate for 50% of a week you need to spend 1-2 hours, for 80% 3 hours. If you want "Encore?" achievement, you need to do 100% in all four weeks, I'd say 4-5 hours each. Also there are daily tasks which only unlock day after day, so you have to take care of at least one on the last day of a week.
As a beginner it might take longer, because you don't have fitting cars for every activity or don't have enough money for tuning many cars. Additionally, the trial is a multiplayer team championship, so you rely a bit on other's performance, too, and might have to repeat it several times.
If you want to have a sneak peak what has to be done in general, here's a text description of an old season: https://forums.forza.net/t/winter-forzathon-shop-festival-playlist-events-and-rewards-through-september-16/100326. If you'd like to have a visual approach, search for FH4 playlist on Google images or YT.
These are the achievements regarding playlists:
A Creature of Habit
Complete all Seasonal Championships in a Festival Playlist Series.
Stunt Puller
Complete all Seasonal PR Stunts in a Festival Playlist Series.
Cashing In
Earn 1 Season Completion Bonus.
Perfectionist
Earn all 8 Season Completion Bonuses in the same Series.
Encore?
Complete all activities in a single Festival Playlist Series.
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You're welcome! Btw. something I didn't mention yesterday: 100% will be tough, especially due to Eliminator (battle royale mode) achievements. That's something you should go for as soon as possible, too, because right now FH4 has highest player peak. I expect it to drop a lot after last playlist and then continuing slowly. Before this sale it had numbers between 1 and 7k and if you only try those next year, it will probably be a PITA to find sessions.
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I doubt I will have the sanity to 100% the game but I think it will be a goal to get all 5 of the playlist achievements. I'll prepare for July 25th and learn the game and get some good cars and then I'll complete the playlist.
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ouch 4 achievements short!
I'm not a completionist or anything so it's all right by me. I'll never get to 100% overall achievement rate anyway so I'm not going to skip a cool game because of that. Still, it's great to know how close you can get so that was super helpful
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Attention
The Mitsubishi Car Pack is back and it is Free to add.
No idea how long it is going to stay up, so grab it immediately.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1443082/Forza_Horizon_4_Mitsubishi_Car_Pack/
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They did add some of them for free just now :)
1967 Sunbeam Tiger
1979 Talbot Sunbeam Lotus
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so what we will 'lose'?
-5 unobtainable achievements
-some cars we cant drive(hw cars, what else?)
-season events discontinued
what else?
cuz i have fh5 on xbox pc, dunno if i should buy fh4 only because its gonna be delisted...
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When I played FH3 after delisting, I noticed that FH without playlists and players feels less vivid up to bland. Racing still works, but you might be less motivated to finish playing. So I'd recommend either now or never.
Of course, FH4 offers more than FH3 in general already and if you're into the English countryside, there aren't many alternatives.
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Please give me as a gift forza horizon 4 ultimate edition
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I played for a few hours yesterday night and this morning. Fun stuff. I wish there was an easy guide to how to unlock all the remaining free Hot Wheels cars and stuff.
Fair warning: this game requires a bit of a tutorial (At least an hour+) before you can complete the Toybox achievement in a custom map (easiest method) or on your own unlocked Hot Wheels car.
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I wish there was an easy guide to how to unlock all the remaining free Hot Wheels cars and stuff.
The Forza Wiki is pretty well organised to look up cars and unlock requirements:
https://forza.fandom.com/wiki/Forza_Horizon_4/Cars
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Thanks. I will do my best to unlock the achievements that will be going away and rare cars.
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I am gonna try and wait for a bigger sale, there might be a one digit price later this year, I already have Forza 5 so I don't really have any need for Forza 4 except collector's purposes lol.
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I am not sure if there is gonna be or not, but after December, they won't make any more money from the game because it's gonna be deleted so I don't really see any reason for not giving it away for like 7€ few days before the delisting because people can just pay around 20€ for Forza 5 and don't bother with a game that probably won't really be getting any major updates after it will get delisted for just few euros cheaper.
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Often times they can only price things a certain way to appease the license holders, it's why when losing a license they can't just give away something for free. I don't know if this applies to Forza but I know it's happened with other games and DLCs in the past.
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Well, we will see...
I don't really need that game, I would only buy it if they price it for cheaper, if I want to play Forza, I will play Forza 5 so I don't really have any need for Forza 4, except maybe buying it to add it to my collection, but definitely not for this price.
I have no idea how this works, but I am looking at it from the "I will buy it if you list it for cheaper or I will not buy it at all" point of view, not sure if the current price tag is the lowest they can go or if it's just their starting point, but I will wait few more months and see how it goes.
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The reason why there won't be a bigger discount is because ms wants to make money.
It's not a coincidence that they've taken the premium addon off everything. Buy the full one for more money even if you have the basic game. So what you say is not going to happen
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Good News
1967 Sunbeam Tiger and 1979 Talbot Sunbeam Lotus are back
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1443011/Forza_Horizon_4_1967_Sunbeam_Tiger/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1443010/Forza_Horizon_4_1979_Talbot_Sunbeam_Lotus/
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Not to be rude or anything but I think this is worthy of a nice swear word.
FUCK YEA!
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Nice, thanks for the notice.
OP @Zepy Should really include in his description that the following DLC packages are back and free to add:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1443082/Forza_Horizon_4_Mitsubishi_Car_Pack/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1443011/Forza_Horizon_4_1967_Sunbeam_Tiger/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1443010/Forza_Horizon_4_1979_Talbot_Sunbeam_Lotus/
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Dumb question but it doesn't have splitscreen right? :/
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if anyone wants the game on Xbox - there is currently an 80% sale in the store. For EU citizens, the cheapest option is Iceland, which can be used without a VPN:
12,49€ Ultimate: https://www.xbox.com/is-IS/games/store/forza-horizon-4-ultimate-edition/9p513p4mwc71
7,49€ Standard: https://www.xbox.com/is-IS/games/store/forza-horizon-4-standard-edition/9pnjxvcvwd4k
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Game is delisting on December 15th, so they're doing a sale:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1293830/Forza_Horizon_4/
All the DLC's are already delisted so you can only buy the Normal, Deluxe or Ultimate editions.
The game will also be playable on all platforms after delisting, but some achievements will be impossible to get!
BLOG POST: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1293830/view/4185613970227394261?l=english
EDIT: Some DLC's are back and free to add:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1443082/Forza_Horizon_4_Mitsubishi_Car_Pack/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1443011/Forza_Horizon_4_1967_Sunbeam_Tiger/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1443010/Forza_Horizon_4_1979_Talbot_Sunbeam_Lotus/
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