oh god what why is it getting delisted (I assume it won't go the way of the crew and made unplayable after that date [DLC's already gone and festivals are going away but main game will still playable])

Great post though! Been waiting for Forza Horizon 4 in particular to drop in price

edit: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1293830/view/4185613970227394261?l=english

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Yeah, just saw that lol.

Side note; I was looking for a comment on SG I think on this thread - https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/LN4za/what-games-have-been-on-your-wishlist-the-longest where someone said Forza Horizon 4 was on their wishlist for a long time but I can't find it... I swear I saw someone commenting about FH4 being on their wishlist. Maybe they edited their comment since I distinctly remember them putting more than 3 games from their wishlist when the thread was just asking for top 3 lol. Definitely can't find it again.

edit: nevermind, found him, it was the other wishlist thread - https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/qeh3Y/so-got-any-games-on-your-summer-sale-wishlist

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Thank you, bought the game and can't wait to play it. My gratitude :)

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Majority of 4 and 5's content is the seasons/series content and that is probably going away.

Edit: yup. Such a shame, wish they had just unlocked it as content you could do on your own time instead. Very disappointing.

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The seasonal content is just a weekly playlist of events with additional rewards. You should be able to do all of that outside of the seasons either way and get the rewards with ingame currency from showrooms and auction house.

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There are star card objectives locked to seasonal events, achievements locked to seasonal events, and it was a good way to earn content/wheelspins as opposed to spending a ton of time grinding to fight in the auction house. That aside, secondary reasons to replay content with specific restrictions/conditions adds replayability.

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No, it's not only that. It's mainly because they have to pay for the car brandings, which probably costs way more than the music

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Yeah it makes sense. Although seriously they have the same cars licensed in so many Forza games at the same time, it's ridiculous that they are paying per game.

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Worry not , theyre not gonna delete the game like Ubisoft did with The Crew

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I see comments on YT and Reddit which suggest that FH3 is still playable in 2024, so I have good hope that FH4 will remain playable as well.

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i can still play FH3, just through xbox companion on pc

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How is The Crew different? Does it not work anymore? I installed it a few months ago and it seemed playable.

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They removed the crew from people's libraries sparking a big movement (Stop KIlling games) to get the EU and other countries government's to clarify if that is legal.

MSN Article about it.

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The Crew works no more. If you purchased it on steam, you still can install it but you can no more start it, as the game has been removed from everyone on Uplay. It was a slap to the face, as all players got a message starting uplay saying something like "we removed the crew 1 from you, why not continue the adventure with motorfest ?"

  • Can you run it offline ? No. Despite one player claimed that the code allowing potentially an offline mode was already there in the game files.
  • Also an ubisoft technician told me by phone some years ago that other games will be shut down at some point. He told me Steep for sure will be shut down (it's obvious it's a game as service). But i wouldn't be surprised Watch_Dogs1 and Slinter cell blacklist to be killed too. As Ubisoft already shut down Tom Clancy Hawx (that wasn't a game as service, there was a full solo campaign that can no more be played, ubisoft killed a single player campaign), and tried without success to kill Silent hunter 5 and an old Anno that the devs saved in-extremis with an offline patch.

It's really different, here after game is delisted, you'll still be able to play Forza for some years as the servers will still be up.
And even more maybe, can it still be run offline ? Players say that partly yes.

And Need for speed it's even more different because if the servers are shut down one day, the full game can be run offline, at least as long as EA app still run.

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The Crew or The Crew 2? Like coley said, the servers are offline for The Crew (1) and it's been removed form uplay entirely (which I was not aware of). The reason why it's an issue with The Crew AND it will be a problem for both The Crew 2 (not yet offline) and The Crew Motorfest is those games have a constant internet connection requirement to play the singleplayer campaign. So once the servers go down, unless you have a workaround to host a dummy server or get the offline mode working, the game is just dead sadly enough. Forza Horizon 4 does not have any such requirement so it'll be fine.

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Got my wheel, but haven't played too much, would this be good pick for it and if so which version?

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Have you played a FH before? Which other racing games did you like so far?
FH is arcade, you can adjust a lot, but it's definitely easier than simulators. It's a car collector from the start (at least as long as the game as a service part and the player based auction house is still available), no "career". Not a real story either, just there's a festival and you are the new star, but there are special side activities with themes, also collaborations with Top Gear etc. Besides Lego DLC and some fancy clothing it has a more serious tone as NfS e.g., no "cool" characters or flashy effects.
I'd recommend to get the Ultimate, price difference isn't much right now and you get two addons, Lego is about a small Lego city with a few cars, but you can also use the usual cars. Fortune Island is mostly dirt terrain and bad weather conditions. Depending on playstyle 5-10 additional hours each.

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Finally! I was promised "delisting" almost 3 years ago, after FH 5 release!
But here is the pickle 🥒 It will be 90% off before December 15th.

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hope so

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-80% for ultimate is good enough for me, I won't be sad if it goes -90% afterwards, but I would if it didn't get another sale before delisting, so...

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Here is another angle at the matter: 90% off will be HALF the price you see now... 😈hehehe

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Yeah, that's a little sad I guess. Maybe I'll try to at least play it before the next sale. ;-)

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80% and still 14euro xd

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You make that sound like it's a bad thing.

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I mean, for some people it's still a bit much...

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will see if i can grabe a steam wallet code and get it , its worth it

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Only issue with this will be some achievements that are for horizon festival if someone want these achievements the last time to get them its now from today till 22 August. After 22 August we wont be able anymore to get these 5 achievements that comes with horizon festival.

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What about other multiplayer achievements?

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They didn't state anything regarding other multiplayer functionalities yet, but it's possible that they might shutdown online services at some point later on. FH3 still has online servers, but it was broken on PC for a while and seems to be working now only with invitation (when I played it myself, it was broken, haven't tried yet again).

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The other online achievements they will unlock just fine through playing the game. Only the festival will terminate complete and this one is the last till August 22. So we have 2 months to earn these 5 achievements. After that we wii be able to get 173 out of 178 achievements in steam. I will try to get these till 22 August buy they need time and patience.

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Which ones are?

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It seems that the Ultimate Edition has two DLC's missing:

  • Hot Wheels Legend Car Pack
  • Treasure Map
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Really? Well, you can't buy them separately so big bummer :/

Additionally: Odd, I have the LEGO Champions DLC but not the Hot Wheels or Treasure Map DLC. Super weird.

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I see they remove the option to buy these DLCS separately. I think they gave the option to buy them before some months. So yes a big bummer. I have the ultimate 1 year now and want to buy these now especially the hot wheels pack.

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The Treasure Map doesn't seem to be a big deal, but the Hot Wheels DLC seems to be a big big bummer. Very sad.

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Yes hot wheel cars are amazing. I waited for a discount and i dont know why they remove them to buy separately. And ultimate comes with 51 DLCS but not these 2. Thats life.

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Yes they need to be bought separately they dont come with the ultimate edition.

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Also these 3 free dlcs were removed too:
Forza Horizon 4: Mitsubishi Car Pack
Forza Horizon 4: 1967 Sunbeam Tiger
Forza Horizon 4: 1979 Talbot Sunbeam Lotus
And now they're no longer available neither in the store nor through Steamdb.

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Damn... they could have waited at least until they delisted the game.

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Saw someone on the forum say that you can buy them from the auction house. If true, not a big deal. I think the only big thing missing is the hot wheels cars

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Yeah, if you can buy them with in-game currency, everything's alright.

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are there any achievements locked behind the DLC pay wall?

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I wonder what happened. They could have announced this the same day the sale started and made more from everyone buying the Hot Wheels and Treasure map dlcs.on Steam. You can still find keys for the Xbox version

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I'm holding off for the longest time. I guess it's high time to buy the damn game now. Ultimate Edition in my region is less than 10 USD, the lowest it has been I think.

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How can we see what dlc came with the purchase (i bought it and steam isn't showing much of the dlc included - the ultimate edition)

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These are all the DLCS thats included. I capture the screens from my steam i have the ultimate.

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Thanks! That's very helpful

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Go to your steam library's game, right click > properties > DLC

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maybe a stupid question but i dont have any idea, since the game gonna be delisted is buying standard edition is enough or the ultimate is still worth?
edit : thanks guys i go for ultimate

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2 addons with 5-10 hours each
a lot of cars
https://steamdb.info/sub/535034/apps/
Unless you find Lego childish and don't like an island with more dirt/uneven terrain, I'd recommend to get Ultimate. If you want to be sure, check YT videos about addons.

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A couple people higher up in the thread recommended getting Ultimate.

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Steam page says this requires an Xbox Live account, can anyone confirm? Is this just for multiplayer or can you play single player without?

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By Xbox Live they mean an Xbox social account, not the subscription you need to play online on consoles.

Q: Do I need an Xbox Live account to play? A: Yes! You'll be asked to sign into Xbox Live the first time you install and launch Forza Horizon 4 from the Steam client.

Source: Forza FAQ. I suppose you'll get an Xbox login screen on startup, similar to the one Halo Infinite has. That's what I understand from that line.
I however do not have the game, wait for confirmation from someone who has the game if it's really an important point for you.

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That's correct, it's just tied to the account, so you don't have another individual registration for the game. I don't think there's a workaround, but I've also never searched for that.

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👍

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A lot of older games that required Games for Windows Live (previous interaction to Xbox Live) stopped working. Games like Lost Planet, etc. Their servers won't be supported forever. Make that what you will.

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Man, still quite expensive for me, even after being discounted. :/

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with some luck, they'll do a 90% right before the delisting. i'm gonna wait too instead of buying it now

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Someone said that a bit higher, yeah... I hope so, too. It's still going to be a lil bit much, but becomes acceptable (which isn't the case now).
Good luck to us!

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From this date forward we will offer different discounts for Forza Horizon 4, like the one currently active on Steam (at the time of publishing); we will also have a sale in the Xbox Store on 7/14. Please keep an eye out on our socials and different platforms to take advantage of future offers.

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Good idea. Hopefully it becomes like Marvel Avengers and they do a full sale with a even cheaper price.

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Considering Forza Horizon 3 Ultimate only went to 70% off on Xbox/MS store before being delisted ($21 in the US), I highly doubt it'll get any better than this for Horizon 4.

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That was my thinking as well. I didn't even expect FH4 Ultimate to go to -80% so I doubt they'll go lower

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I'm kinda tempted since I heard this game is amazing. If I ever get to buy it it will be ultimate one for sure.

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It is worth every penny especially at this price

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I haven't gotten it yet, but when i do, its ultimate for sure, i want that Lego DLC

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Is ultimate worth it or will they give everyone DLCs free or smtng? After delisting

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Ultimate is definitely worth it, you get the LEGO and Storm Island content and no they won't release it for free.

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Again they remove game =(

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they only remove the game from the store. the game will still exist and be playable for those who bought it before december 15th

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You guys think they'll extend the sale into the Summer sale?

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It is odd that they chose to make it a 2 day sale instead of waiting for the summer sale. I think they will extend it, but there's no way to be sure

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Jah.

I'm gonna wait just in case. If not, I'm sure it'll be on sale again, but if so, even better.

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I think they figured it would stand out more if it wasn't drowned in the tsunami of discounts and people would be more likely to buy it if it was a short discount than a 2 weeks one with lots of other games to buy

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Currently it ends in 42h, so it won't be discounted again during the summer sale because of steam policy (unless maybe Microsoft is exempted).

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I don't think that's right since big sales (like summer or even spring sale) are an exception for a majority of steam's sale policy. The 42h you're seeing is also the hour that summer sale starts, which is common for more or less every sale that's on right now, they either choose the start date of the big sale (and refreshes it to the same price until the end of the big sale) or they extend it out to the end of summer sale. There may be a steam rule where they aren't allowed to have a discount for more than 2 weeks or something so that's why they end it then, and then the exception kicks in and they're allowed to do whatever during the summer sale.

But on a common sense standpoint, do you think that every game (indie or AAA) that's on discount right now won't be on sale during summer sale? The only game on my wishlist that's on sale that doesn't have a sale that ends in ~42 hours or less is Kingdom Hearts, which may be exempt due to squeanix and launch discount rules.

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The official policy:

"Discounts cannot be run within 30 days of your prior discount, with the exception of Steam-wide seasonal events (Summer, Autumn, Winter and Springs sales)."

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/marketing/discounts#7

So yeah they'll likely repeat the same sale or extend it. There's a small chance it'll be discounted higher or lower than the current sale, but it'll probably stay at 80% off.

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Thanks, I didn't know about the seasonal sales exception.

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I didn't know about any of those policies, so thanks for explaining all of them. I've seen games extend their sales before, but only into big sales like Summer or Winter, just like you guys said.

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I'll wait for a better discount. If there isn't any, so be it.

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I can't wait for a better discount. Just bought the ultimate version for $5. Been in my wishlist forever.

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Where is at that price?

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Turns out I already owned the Ultimate Edition on Live (and surprisingly, also No Man's Sky lol). I guess I'll play it soon. ;)

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I have the standard edition... Should I buy other versions?

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With the amount i have on steam i can only buy the Standard Edition. Should i wait and buy the Deluxe Edition or Ultimate Edition? I really want this game. Thanks for let us know that they are going to retire the game for store. Hope they make a 90% discount before they retire the game.

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Get Ultimate. No point in getting the standard, the price difference is very little and you're getting a lot more with Ultimate. Seriously doubt it'll go to 90% off. Forza games always get delisted and AFAIK they never get 90% discounts

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After some browsing on slickdeals and the like, I wasn't able to see a 90% off for Forza Horizon 3 (didn't look at the previous delisted Forza game, which I believe is Forza 6 before Horizon 3?), the lowest it went was ~$8 USD (about 86% off) I believe but that's on gray market. The lowest it went officially was ~$10 USD (83% off) from Microsoft themselves 1 month before the game got delisted. It may get lower when it gets closed to delisted date but I don't know if 90% will happen.

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Then i will wait to try to buy the Ultimate Edition. Because right now i only can buy Standard Edition, so hope they make a bigger discount. Thanks a lot of the info!

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No way to get all the dlcs as of now i guess...

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The missing dlcs are not that great and do not affect achievements:
1) Hot Wheels Legend Car Pack - 6 Cars
2) Forza Horizon 4: Mitsubishi Car Pack - 7 Cars (Re-added)
3) Forza Horizon 4: 1967 Sunbeam Tiger - 1 Car (Re-added)
4) Forza Horizon 4: 1979 Talbot Sunbeam Lotus - 1 Car (Re-added)
5) Treasure Map

Forza Horizon 4 has 716 cars total (https://gamezo.gg/how-many-cars-are-in-forza-horizon-4/).
You will be missing 15 which is a small number and only 1 or 2 are high end cars.

UPDATE: Mitsubishi Car Pack and both Sunbeams have been added back to Steam. So 6 cars missing.

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Thank you for this information. Still a big bummer about the Hot Wheels Legend Car Pack but hey, what can you do.

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Thanks for sharing. Still sucks these can't be obtained anymore :/

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Thanks

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the mitsubishi car pack is still available btw, annd according to reviews on the store, the sunbeam tiger and sunbeam lotus are part of the ultimate edition. so it's just the hotwheels pack that's missing.

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Yes Mitsubishi Car pack got added back. But the Sunbeams are not in the Ultimate. They show up as not owned and you cannot buy them. Hopefully they get added back also.

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Ah, i see. theyre added back now tho

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Sucks for the treasure map to be unobtainable now

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