the good games for it havent come out yet. (well pikmin 3 just came out)
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Somalia is pretty good, just underrated and lacking water/electricity/mcdonalds/roads/safety.
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I already have a paperweight of a Wii and a doorstop of a WiiFit. No need for more.
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Well, you are rather dumb for not exploiting the potential of what you buy.
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You're right I should mod the remotes to make them garage door openers.
Seriously, I gave Wii a shot and had it since release. After seeing that their best game was Wii Sports and after the release of Kinect I stopped using it all together.
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Well. Their best game is definitely not Wii Sports. I think you did not even took the time to explore what it could offer.
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Well seeing how the rest are underpowered, maimed PCs and Wii is the only one bringing fresh content to the scene. I say so.
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When XBox 360 fanboys who also play PC end up moving to full PC, something is rotten in Redmond.
Having consoles around is great. It keeps game creators from simply relying on the massive number of keyboard commands available and encourages efficient control layouts. And there can never been too many PC games that have superb gamepad controls. Most of us PC gamers grew up with console gamepads in our hands.
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Sadly it also means that developers try to bind too many commands to the same key (pick up weapon/reload on the same key, seriously? That is like asking for mistakes in the midst of combat). I would much rather use a few more keys than the horrible compromises that we are seeing in many games these days.
Now if they would allow you to individually bind commands like those, then I would not really mind, but quite often, they don't.
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Control configs should be mandatory once you have more than two buttons to worry about. Remember the old Street Fighter II and Mortal Kombat games on SNES and Genesis/Megadrive all had configs?
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i dont know if the 100th Mario or the 72nd Zelda are exactly "fresh content" though.
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If you fail to see how they innovate and how nintendo is going to have and save the console scene again as they did in the past. Well, I pity you.
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They are not going to save anything. They will be lucky to outsell Dreamcast.
And no, a tablet is not innovation. And even if it was, that mode of control is also available on PS4 and Xbox One.
But yeah, tell me how New Super Mario Bros, Mario Kart, Bayonetta 2, Smash Bros are innovative. Please, do tell where is the amazing innovation on those.
If the Wii U becomes a sucess, it will be because of the old Nintendo franchises. Thats it. There is no innovation to it. People that want to buy it will buy because of the old nintendo franchises. Nobody is buying it for the tablet controls.
Again, I would love to see how can you call relying on yet another Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Zelda is innovative.
That and Wii Sports U.
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There's no one more blind as that who doesn't want to see. If I get a console I want something different. Not an underpowered PC. That's what only Nintendo does.
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Do tell what Nintendo does different. I love how you actually do not present any kind of arguments and only say "oh, you dont want to see"
Nintendo didnt bring anything new to the table. Tablet controls were already a thing before a Wii U and they will also be present on the other consoles (Xbox One and PS4). So no, its not something only Nintendo does.
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You're talking as if the Wii U has been out for years. Nintendo made a bad move of releasing it too early, but that does not mean the Wii U is doomed at all. The 3DS is doing better than the DS when you compare how long they've been out and sales. Nintendo can actually afford keep the Wii U alive, Sega could not do the same for the Dreamcast.
"And no, a tablet is not innovation. And even if it was, that mode of control is also available on PS4 and Xbox One."
Except it is a innovation. And so what if it's on other consoles? It doesn't mean it can do it better, compare the PS Move to the Wii's motion control and the Wii will outperform it in games and performance.
"But yeah, tell me how New Super Mario Bros, Mario Kart, Bayonetta 2, Smash Bros are innovative. Please, do tell where is the amazing innovation on those."
Since when do games need to innovative? Castle Crashers did what Guardian Heroes did, Half-Life 2 only brought longer cutscenes and a new physics engine to the franchise, Sleeping Dog basically brought nothing to the genre, ect. Plus MrC was talking about the system itself.
"If the Wii U becomes a sucess, it will be because of the old Nintendo franchises. Thats it. There is no innovation to it. People that want to buy it will buy because of the old nintendo franchises. Nobody is buying it for the tablet controls."
You're so wrong. You can't prove this. The GamePad is innovative and is the biggest innovation in gaming so far. The console is built around it. Please avoid saying things you have no way of proving.
"Again, I would love to see how can you call relying on yet another Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Zelda is innovative. That and Wii Sports U."
Xbone and the PS4 aren't innovations since they're just underpowered PCs, and PC hasn't been innovative is so long. I don't get the hate Nintendo gets.
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Lets be realistic here. Why do you think the Wii sold so well? It would be stupid to say something like, innovation. I'm willing to bet the continuation of the well known franchises is the main reason why the Wii sold so well. It's logical to assume that this trend will continue with the Wii-U because innovative features mean nothing if the games are shit.
Personally, I think the Wii-U is late to the party with it's "innovative features". The well known games will help it stay alive, but I think Nintendo and it's home consoles will eventually be engulfed by the more powerful hardware out there. Innovation needs to be applied while it's fresh, otherwise it's no longer innovation :P
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Well, whereas I can admit that much of its sucess came from the continuation of well-know franchises you just have to compare the numbers of units sold by the GC and then by Wii, having that in mind we could safely assume that innovation and adressing to a different public made for much of its sale.
Also I think there's no point in trying to compete with power. Consoles are outdated on launch day already. It's senseless.
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I don't understand how the GC was innovative, but it did have popular exclusive titles. Hell, even I was close to buying one knowing that the Metroid Primes were on it!
The new PS4 games look gorgeous and that will certainly help build interest for some people. For most people, a PC that is more powerful will be out of their price range and factor in their lack of knowledge of PC components, and they will happily go for a next gen console that requires basic setup and "good enough" looking games.
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I never said GC was innovative in any way or form. I said that Wii was and for that reason it sold 80 million more consoles than it's direct precursor (GC) and 70 million more than N64. I think that something must have changed there, because if it was, as you said, thanks to reiterating series the consoles should have a similar albeit a bit higher sales. Not that huge difference.
The new PS$ games do not look gorgeous. Post-processed renders might do also my definition of gorgeous seems to differ from yours as I consider the new graphics displayed on the PS4 as mediocre at its best. They are already outdated and the console is not even out.
I also have no fucking idea of how to build a PC nor anything beyond basic notions of using them and here I am. Enjoying my games on a device that costed a bit more of what those consoles will and I can affirm it's better than them even being a year old.
Consoles cannot compete in graphics or potency with PCs. It's naive to think that, that's why I think that Nintendo's approach to the problem is the best one. Innovate.
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Thanks Compass. But the trend is to hate Nintendo and to dismiss it as they are consoles for kids.
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Laughing giddily at all the hate Microsoft has managed to generate for themselves while carefully watching Sony and calculating exactly how far before the PS4 release to announce a WiiU price drop?
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well, if you get a PC or a PS4, you can already play 90% of the Xbox One library. Wii U at least will have dozens of first party exclusives.
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i think you mistook what the ">" represents... he means greater than not as a progression...
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Yeah I can see what you meant to use > as.
For other readers' benefit, the confusion came from his progression usage in a reply to a superiority usage.
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for some reason i picked up on that fact but it didn't quite register in my mind until now XD
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But you can share a single normal Gold membership accross all the accounts in a Xbox One console.
If only the same program came to the Xbox 360...
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and most families "atleast my own and my friends" have atleast 3 consoles in the house for each individual family member, which will now require a membership each. my house personally has 4, me the old lady and 2 kids each have a console.
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Most families have 3 consoles? What are you, the 1%?
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I thought Xbone was going to have that Family group thing where you add accounts to your Family and you can split Gold across them even if each account was on a separate console? Or maybe that was only going to be for cloud library access which is no longer being offered since everyone kicked up a shit about Xbone DRM. Correct me if I'm wrong, I'd actually like to know what's going on without reading five different articles all with different information on the subject.
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seriously? 4 consoles? and your complaining about paying for 4 memberships?
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save money on the console, and put it in the membership funds
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They will be making us pay for online multiplayer now which is unfortunate but they are not making PSPlus required to use Netflix and other such Apps. On Xbox you need a Gold membership to use Netflix and etc.
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yea but the netflix argument is at this point its a moot point, because you know all PS users will get PSPlus anyways. Why wouldnt you? ONline play, free games. No one guys PSPlus or Gold just for netflix.
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I say BOO to paying extra for console multiplayer. You have internet already. Host a lobby service and let people set up servers on their PCs if it's really such a burdensome cost to host multiplayer servers for the people buying your games.
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I'd suggest that it's better to have a paid option rather than enforce paying if you want to play multiplayer. There is no discount at checkout if you won't or can't play the multiplayer portions either, which is one of the few points in favor of online passes, if only they'd discount the game in exchange for the existence of that pass.
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dont think so, but saving 100$ per console is 2 years of membership each console
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By "family package" you mean play & use games & services on other accounts on a PS3/PS4?
Sure. For example, you buy PS+ on your main account, download a free/paid game, then play it on a different account on the same system
The only thing that's really account locked on Sony consoles are avatars
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It no longer has the family package because with the XBONE only needs ONE gold sub for the entire console.
http://www.polygon.com/2013/8/9/4605820/xbox-one-home-gold
Learn to facts.
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He said below each family member has their own console.
http://www.steamgifts.com/forum/6CfAR/xbox-no-longer-has-gold-family-package/page/1#18521732
Learn to reads.
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yah its such a waste of money to be able to play games with the family when i want to.
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You play games with the family in a console. You don-t need four.
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I seem to recall playing multiplayer on a single NES easily enough. SNES, N64, GCN, Wii, PSX. Why are current generation console manufacturers screwing with their customers so much? They're no longer trying to compete with PCs, they're just turning into PCs but with heavy restrictions.
I miss the old console days. You didn't need to be as powerful as a PC to be both fun to play and profitable to produce at the same time. Cue the Y U NO image macros.
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This. I'd much rather spend $60 on a new controller than $250 on a new console. Yes, everyone having their own TV to play on is nice but it's completely unnecessary.
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ever hear of split screen? .. or thats right.. thats sooooo "retro"..
What Dillon Said
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This. I miss the days when playing 4 player splitscreen on a crappy 13" screen was ok. Now everyone is spoiled with their 1080p's and huge screens.
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The real kicker is that splitscreen is disappearing from many beloved series...
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So you were OK with paying $500 x 4, or $2000, to buy 4 Xbox Ones for your home... but the breaking point is that you'll have to spend a bit more on Gold?
Why not switch everyone to PC gaming? I assume by your budget that everyone already has their own PC as well, problem solved.
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Old news considering that they got rid of it way back in March I think it was?
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To hell with xbox anyway. Bunch of greedy assholes.
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http://news.xbox.com/2013/08/xbox-one-digital-games-and-live-gold
Official article, i dont see how thats in any way being greedy.
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Does not affect me currently.. never used the family membership. I do have a 360 but I mainly play on the PC. I go through binges of playing on consoles but.. yea.. its not my preferred platform. I admit it used to be a long time ago, but that was when most PC games where point and click adventure games.. and very few of those where even halfway decent little alone good.
Only reason why I get consoles now is for games that I can not get on the PC. Those games where most FF games, Dead Rising ( the first one ) ect. ( Just putting examples here lol ) The only exclusive XBone has that I am interested in at all is Dead Rising 3, and I will not be shocked at all if that hits PC later on anyways. Capcom got out of a bad contract in the past with RE, wont be shocked if something like that happens again with that game.. besides the fact that often xbox exclusives end up getting PC ports anyways.
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I wonder how many devs each year decide that they won't do exclusives anymore, and get denied console rights based on that? It sounds like something console creators would try.
Platform exclusives are bad for customers.
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Yup.. not only is it bad for customers it tends to be bad for the devs as well. Their game gets less exposure due to it being on only one platform. So the amount of potential sells goes down big time. I know the companies behind the consoles tend to offer big incentives for being exclusive to their console but I do not know much more than that. Regardless I think its a bad choice to go exclusive with one console or another due to what I mentioned already.
Though I do not blame the devs who do it especially if they get offered enough for being exclusive with their game(s).
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Im simply going to go with the PS4 because of Xbox saying "well basically we are going to bone you and all your friends. Wait wait wait... what do you mean bad press... well just tell them we are just kidding then... ok. Hey good news everyone who thinks what we said earlier is bad and stupid, we are just kidding!! Now that we saved that...What else can we do thats stupid?"
more than likely why ill just continue to PC game, you can use a controller and other than specific releases has been the way to game since nintendo basically died. yea im looking at you wii.
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Wii? The fith most sold console ever? And they are dead. eddiemurphy.gif
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everyone who uses that single console sure, but my family has 4 consoles, and i have 2 friends whos families have the same, the rest atleast have 2. now we have to pay double so that our families can play online
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a bunch of a money hungry little bitches they are, guess ill be going ps4 after all.
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