Not really, the reason some bundles don't appear because Valve applied the new "bundle price according to your account history". Which means if you're getting a bundle that consists of 10 games and you own 2 of which, the price will reduce to count only the remaining 8 games. This will also prevent people from buying packs as gifts as long as they own one or more of the games in the pack. Therefore the price isn't firm to all people.
P.S: As an example, I just bought Valve Complete Pack for $2.5 because I have the majority of the games and it only counted the ones I don't have.
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Ok, I see there is a clarification besides the title that gives a bit more explanation just like you said. Then because the price is potentially different for different people, the GA bundle list doesn't list it? So I would assume for all intents and purposes the gift value is discounted since a bundle is a bundle.
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Day of defeat is terrible game :D but fun with friends, Ricochet is terrible even with friends
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The criteria for a bundle to be included on the list is the percentage of discount, if a game or package/bundle is 95% off or more (under pretty much any circumstance respect US price) it gets added to the bundle list. The L4D bundle probably never got a discount that deep and that's why it's not considered as "bundled", just like how some tier 3 games from HB don't get into the list.
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I wasn't active at that time but I think you could only add it to your own libary so there was no way to get extras to give away. It was Free 2 keep by the way which is a small but important difference.
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So the steam bundles custom generated for users I can still gift the individual game separately and for the dev bundles those would be reduced value cause it's straight up a bundle if they are deeply discounted. And just for clarifications sake, using this as an example http://store.steampowered.com/app/347610/, a bundle that isn't deeply discount (plus given each individual game isn't on the list) would not be reduced in gift value?
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Yes, if you buy the contents from a custom generated bundle seperatly you can still gift them seperatly. And with all other packages (basicly everything that can be purchased as a gift) it depends on the discount. If they have been discounted 95% or more of the US price (in any region) they will count as bundled (= will only give 15% Real CV).
About the Hidden Object Bundle 4 in 1 you used in your clarification example:
Although it has the word Bundle in the name it appears not to be a package (because there are no contents listed) but rather 4 games tacked together as a new game like Deponia: The Complete Journey which also doesn't give you the 3 seperate Deponia games but combines them into a "new" game.
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But to answer your clarification question more general:
Yes. If the Bundle itself is not on the Bundle list and neither are the seperate games you will get 100% of the store price as Real CV.
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No problem ;) Yea, all those Steam rules are really getting out of hand. My very first reply was only partly correct until I realized that custom generated Bundles are different because they can't be gifted and thus there's no need to add them to the Bundle list, and edited it out. If Valve keeps adding new features to further complicate things they'll have to add a Master (and Bachelor) of Steam economy badge :D
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I understand that bundled games have discounted value as a gift and those are listed on the bundles page saying when they have been bundled previously. So I tried looking up the l4d/l4d2 bundle and it's not listed there. Is it because these are full games and not a bunch of indie games from one dev packaged together, or some other criteria is considered? Or maybe that the list just missed the L4d bundle?
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