My girlfriend and I have bought almost all bundles from HB in the last few months, and this morning she has received a very disturbing phone call. Seems like someone has tried using her bank account (credit card data) to buy something from a travel agency of 1000$ and another payment of 4.000$. Luckily, the bank saw the difference between her usual purchases (living in denmark) and the sudden huge increase in payment and country difference and called before approving the transaction itself. Upon further inquiries, the bank has told us that the problem came from some 1$ transactions made towards www.humblebundle.com . This being said... WHAT THE HELL?!

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Hmm, dont think humble would do these things.

1 decade ago
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download malwarebytes and do a full system scan of your computers

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She had antivirus and antispyware installed, checked with malwarebytes, nod32, avast and a few others, NOTHING was found

1 decade ago
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Maybe it was social engineering?

1 decade ago
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well, It still could get in there, antivirus isn't water proof. Still, I dont believe humble would do this. I still think its a virus

1 decade ago
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AFAIK humblebundle never get your CC(credit card) info. They accept only paypal(and likes) so CC info is only revealed to PP, and from there its transaction between PP and humble, not between bank/CC and humble.

you should ask bank if its CC direct withdraw or through PP.

CHANGE YOUR PP PASS.

1 decade ago
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try emsisoft anti malware, it always finds things and its free

1 decade ago
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hope your running your scans in safe mode otherwise your wasting your time.

1 decade ago
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ever use any not-at home wifi to purchase it?

Alternatively: even home wifi is never safe, really.

1 decade ago
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yeah if something like this would actually get out there, which it would, it would be the end of humble bundles. I don´t think it would be worth 5000 bucks

1 decade ago
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humble bundle DOES NOT have your credit card NUMBER... idiocrasy overulled you once again ! do you know how payments work?

1 decade ago
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Humble wouldn't do this...at least I hope..

1 decade ago
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Oh. My bank gives fraud alerts to me for buying too many games/paying many small amounts in a short period of time.

1 decade ago
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oh mew

1 decade ago
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Same. My card was locked for 24h for having multiple small payments within a short time.

1 decade ago
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me too.

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Same story...

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My bank account once was suspended for spending $300 in ~$10 transactions in one day.

The next day my Paypal account was put on hold for spending $250 on Steam store.

Clearly somebody doesn't want me to spend money on video games.

1 decade ago
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Ouch :(
From now on I will pay Humble in bitcoins, so my bank can go to hell (as well as any other bank in this world lol)

1 decade ago
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As someone whos had my debit card cloned through a modified ATM, I'm more than happy with the fact that banks moniter suspicious activity carefully.

Having your account suspened for something you bought is annoying. Having your bank account cleared out by some arsehole is likely even more annoying.

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xD In my case I got like 3 calls from anti-fraud to verify my purchases. The representatives read through my long list of Humble Bundles and Indie Galas and Valve Steam purchases for several minutes each time and thankfully they were able to clear my account.

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They keep calling me for that every week... I know every employee thanks to the bundles LOL.
I told them not to bother any more and put a skip flag in my case... but they didn't listen...

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When Google was celebrating their 10 billionth app downloaded, they were offering major apps for $.10. I think I spent a total of $6 on the sale, but apparently banks do not appreciate 60 $0.10 transactions, so they immediately canceled my old card and sent me a new one.

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Well, on HB you pay through amazon, google wallet or paypal.
Humble bundle doesn't get your card number or other stuff like that. Correct me if i'm wrong.

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+1 here.

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That is true, we are going to do some further searches. She always paid through Amazon Payments, while I prefer Paypal. I have not yet had any problems, but I thought I should at least give a heads up to the steamgits community

1 decade ago
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Maybe a trojan or Keylogger. Check your computer for virusses / trojans.

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+1

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Yes, there is an option to pay with Credit Card. So yea, you can pay through Credit Card in the US.
But I don't think they would do that :(

1 decade ago
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Tell your bank don't block your payments........but anyways you can't use credit card directly there :S

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I wouldn´t do this. If someone tried to buy something for 5000 dollars, I would definately keep he security measures up

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Why you no use paypal?

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Humble doesn't handle credits directly, so the leak is at some service...

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this is what i thought, you cannot pay via credit card, u have to pay via paypal, amazon, google and bitcoin, so its one of those at fault

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I wonder how the bank could tell that the HiB transaction was the trigger.

The problem could also be a manipulated ATM - unless you're sure you never used your CC to buy anything besides HiBs and never used your card at an ATM.

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Since we are in Denmark, why would we make payments of 5.000 dolars at a travel agency and a few other bucks at a local restaurant in the USA. Manipulate an ATM in Copenhagen, and then run to america and use it there? Somehow the bank's idea with the payment seems more adequate... Then again, we have to ask around Amazon, since there seems to be the problem itself

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I'm not saying that you made the payment.

The data of a manipulated ATM can be transfered to the US by electronic means, no need to go there physically (and people that manipulate ATMs normally don't work alone, so it could be a plausible scenario).

The small amounts from your HiB transactions probably looked suspicious to your bank, that does not mean that HiB gave away your CC info.

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I agree with this. They have no idea where and when your card info was leaked. But we know that the likelihood that paypal/google wallet through HIB was the cause is very unlikely. SO basically, it was either some ATM you used, or a sketchier website.

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Many people who steal CC info sell them to other people. So someone could steal your info in Denmark and sell it to someone in the US.

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CC data can be stolen at the restaurant or a gas station, then sent out of the country and misused in another part of the world. There are devices that can be attached to ATM to scan your PIN. You are actually safer while using the card over the Internet, if you use common sense while doing that.

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Normally when a credit card is stolen the thief makes some trial $1 purchases to ensure the card is valid. They just flagged humble bundle because of the amounts. When my card got stolen they made some $1 purchases on iTunes and my bank called me.

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Det er nogen svin! :(

1 decade ago
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nein!

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And that's why I use Paypal on all sites.

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Sheeeeiiiiit.. I'm from Denmark as well, and was thinking about buying this Bundle. Now I'm too scared

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PayPal er din ven.

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Er jeg den eneste på internettet der ikke har en PayPal?

1 decade ago
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Du kan nemt lave en. Koster cirka 15 kr. når du skal verify dit credit card, og så kan du bare begynde :)

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That's disturbing :P You should really use paypal or something like that.

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People who steal card info generally make several small purchases to test the card. The bank most likely mentioned the HB purchases because it's "suspicious" in that regard. If HB had some sort of data breach we'd probably be hearing a lot about it considering the number of people who have bought their bundles since it started.

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+1

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+1

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This is what happened, most likely. Me and one of my friends have also had their info used (It's very common. 1 in 3 people, I think?) and with mine, they made a ten dollar donation to charity to test it and with my friend's, they used it in one of those soda machines that take debit cards to test it.

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That's why I always try to pay in cash IRL shops. You cannot always trust a clerk that earns about minimum wage and may not work in that place anymore in a month. Also, try to be paranoid with ATM's, try to use always the same ones, and be suspicious of any changes.

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How can the bank know the problem came from humblebundle?

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because it is the only payment we make towards USA, and it seems to correspond to the general area of the payments. Other than HB, we use the card in our own country

1 decade ago
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haven't you buy anything from the internet besides humble?

1 decade ago
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no, not really. all we might need we can buy from the local stores. We only rarely use online payments, and these were pretty much all the payments we made online in the last several weeks, maybe even more than a month

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There was a card theft in our city like this and it turned out that the thieves had the card info for 2 years.They waited for the right moment so they couldn't be suspected.

I suggest you to check your payments in last 1 or 2 years and contact the Humble Bundle.

Oh and by the way, I have 2 cards for 1 bank account.One of them is for game expenses and has 150$ limit, this way I can stop myself from buying everything and be safe from thefts.I suggest you to do the same ^-^

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Well that is were they get a lot of card info. Less than honest local business owners, or even just an employee, modify a card reader to steal the data. It happened to a friend of mine at a dollar store in a small town a few years ago.

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That doesn't really say anything.
Every country is capable of credit card theft, and humble bundle doesn't even look at the card's info Paypal, Amazon Payment, and Google Cash do, so that does not make sense at all.

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Wonder how the bank knew that the problem came from 1$ transactions? That doesn't make sense to me. Did they catch the scammer already? Or did he write 'That's what you get for buying Humble Bundles!' in the reference field? And like someone else said, you pay with PayPal, Amazon Payments or Google, Humble only receives a notification that the transaction was completed, so they're not to blame. They don't get access to your PayPal password or anything like that.

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My thoughts exactly, it looks like the bank is just assuming that the humble bundle was a scam site.

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Normally when a credit card is stolen the thief makes some trial $1 purchases to ensure the card is valid. They just flagged humble bundle because of the amounts. When my card got stolen they made some $1 purchases on iTunes and my bank called me.

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make a new bank account with 50€ for buy from internet, and add founds when u needed, also use paypal allways.

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That's what I do, one can never be too sure

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That's a good bank, they actually do their job.

1 decade ago
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Well that's why i use my Virtual Debit Card. This way unless i put money into it even if they have it, there is nothing in it.

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Not sure if your bank have support for it, but my bank (Swedbank) in Sweden has a service that allows me to make temporary digital debit cards with a fixed sum on them. It is similar to having two or more bank accounts, but everything is automated, and you never give out your real card number.
Won't help now, but if they have the service, it might help in the future.

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why the hell would you give your CC data to a small company that has no means to properly manage it? use paypal next time...

1 decade ago
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Wait, I thought HIB only used payment processors. The don't handle any credit card data do they?

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Paypal, Amazon Payments, Google Wallet, Bitcoin.
Humble Bundle do NOT handle credit card payments themselves.

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phishing probably. Someone routed you through their system and collected your credit card data that was supposed to go directly to humble bundle. Otherwise, what evidence does your bank have that humblebundle was the one doing it? "came from" could mean, as others have said, that this was the start of the problem. The first illegitimate purchase in which the card is tested. Because all the transactions were made to US companies that would be flagged as unusual when you usually buy things in Denmark.

Otherwise $1 to the humble bundle, really? $1?

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I didnt think u could you pay via credit card?

you have to pay via Paypal, Amazon, Google and Bitcoin, so its one of those at fault

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So..... Paypal, there's no way they could get access to your paypal account, and you cant buy "directly from your CC" so.. yea..

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Definitely not Humble Bundle. They never even receive your credit card details, so it can't be them. Your bank was speculating.

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they are assuming humblebundle.com is a scam site because of it being 1$ transactions. Thats it.

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This. Lots of small payments will look suspicious as that is one way of stealing money from your account gradually without you noticing. However you know what these payments are for and as others have said, Humble Bundle uses 3rd party payment services to handle the transactions and so never has access to your credit card details.

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This is almost certainly the case. A lot of frauders will make very small purchases to verify that the card is still valid before trying to use it for a big purchase. This is probably why they flagged the humblebundle purchases as being related to the fraudulent charges. I can't say with 100% certainty that it's not, but is extremely, EXTREMELY unlikely.

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