Do you still trust CDPR?
I don't trust them as much anymore. The downgrade was real, after all. I don't know who to blame: CDPR for the decision, the managers (but not the developers) for forcing an insufficient budget, or the heads of the team for catering to consoles. Perhaps we should blame the console market itself, but in the end it is the team's fault for not sticking to PC.
What a shame. Witcher 3 was going to be the epic third installment to one of the greatest series of all time. Now, it will be marred by a graphical downgrade due to pandering to consoles and budget limitations. The story may be outstanding, and I will still play it, but the lack of graphical beauty will dampen the experience. I expected better of CDPR, but I guess they are a business after all.
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You know, I think this whole situation really overwhelmed them. I mean they never did something as big as The Witcher 3. Hell, they started out as a company not that long ago. They might have just been afraid that the game won't succeed otherwise. I mean sure, probably someone in the PR department should get fired over this, but if any developer is to draw conclusions from such a mishap - it's them.
I mean, at the end of the day they said they are thinking of ways to make it up to us. So let's just wait and see what happens.
And if they fail to deliver, and keep pulling stunts like that? Well, then we will just start treating them like we would any bad developer. Which would be a shame. But that's life I suppose.
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Sorry, I didn't see your reply here.
Maybe they did have those concerns, but after seeing all the hype (and definitely after all the prepurchases), I'd assume they would be more confident about it. The last two games were very successful and met with good reviews. Why wouldn't a game that was better in every respect receive better reviews? For a company with five games under their collective belt, including two extremely successful ones, I'd assume they would have more confidence in their work as a team.
If they do try to make it up to the PC userbase, it would require a lot, such as a complete graphical revision that was up to the older standards before platform unification. Anything short of that may not be satisfactory.
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Why wouldn't a game that was better in every respect receive better reviews? For a company with five games under their collective belt, including two extremely successful ones, I'd assume they would have more confidence in their work as a team.
What they used to do is to release a PC game that was still relatively small. Now they made a huge open world game, with simultaneous release across platforms with publishers probably breathing down their necks. That is way bigger in scope than any previous thing they have done.
That, and here in Poland many people treat those games like the Second Coming of Christ. Seriously, they were talking about this game in the news for like 3 days straight. There is a reason why our prime minister gave Obama a copy of The Witcher 2
Back in 2011, Polish prime minister Donald Tusk gave U.S. president Barack Obama a copy of The Witcher 2, because it's pretty much the best thing Poland has ever done.
You'd be surprised how many people here believe that. And again, CDPR is still a relatively small company. They aren't Bioware that has EA backing them up with tons of money. There is a lot of pressure on them.
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Even so, they still made many mistakes here. It may be that they cracked under pressure, or they weren't able to do it the way they wanted, or they didn't have enough funding (which is odd, given their apparent place as harbingers of light in Poland would ensure them a lot of funding, perhaps even from the government). Regardless, the most that does is explain why this happened. It still happened, though, and this incident probably won't fade away quickly without some serious reparations by CDPR.
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Perhaps so. I guess the main thing I wanted to address in my posts is that this issue is not as clear cut as it initially seems, and we should probably be a bit more reserved in our opinions. As I said elsewhere in this thread, I don't think we should completely lose faith in them yet. Of course we probably should be suspect of what they do (as we always should have been- don't preorder etc.) But let's see how they make it up to us first before we condemn them. And we do that after they pull another stunt like that - not before. After all if any dev is to learn from a thing such as this - it's them.
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Well, I still have hope for CDPR and for some reason, I believe their remorse rhetoric is sincere. I'm not as unwavering in my trust in them anymore, though, and their recent decisions (and how they handled W3) really caused me to lose a lot of respect for them. I'm all for waiting to see what they have in store. I suppose I just wanted to express my disapproval with their decisions now, since any reparations they make may not suffice to make up for what could have been.
I guess all that's been said has been said. I'll still respond to you on the other thread, though, just to wrap it up. Thanks for your input and opinions.
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I'm just happy I can play it in 1680x1050 in low/medium with my gtx560se and it looks better than Divinity2, DA:O or Witcher 2, so I don't really care as I would not be able to play non-downgraded ultra for the next ten or so years... and my friend with gtx970 can't have 60spf with hairworks on... so, yeah, they could have included even better gfx features for the 1% of gamers... or made it playable for poor sods like me and console peasants... I'm glad they chose the second option.
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I don't own it, dunno how my rig would handle it, but if it had to be done, i'm happy they chose to do it as well.
Especially because i'm kinda sick and tired of seeing DEVs not caring about what specs we have or don't.
How they went about the whole situation was less than ideal though.
Like Elbows said in the OP, this is my sole point of contention:
I don't think the downgrade is the problem for people., I think it's more of the fact that they wouldn't admit it, even worse that they wouldn't until the game was already out.
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http://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/7e9VLnY
You (or anyone else who is unsure if their rig will run it) should check this out.
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Sorry, my bad. I didn't read your post careful enough. But from what I've heard if you have more ram, you can get away with some weaker gpus. What is more the .ini tweaks also allow for worsening of graphics and better performance. People at GameDebate even deleted all the trees (which is a bit extreme) to get like 10 fps more.
But basically the bottom line is - The Witcher 3 can run on way lower specs then it should (and it will probably get even better when new patches and tweaks will be released) and you need like twentysomething fps on low for comfortable play.
Here is the article that has the details.
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My specs are:
i5-2380 @ 3.10 GHz
12 GB RAM
GTX 560
I think I'm right on the edge with those, but your post gives me hope I might delay that new GPU until there is more money in my pockets (not that I'm able or willing to buy The Withcer 3 now anyways) ;)
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Mine are i5-2400 3.1Ghz, 8 GB DDR3 1300Mhz and GTX560se, (SE as in "not the real 560 or 560ti") with 1 GB DDR5.
I'm playing in 1680x1050 (native) locked to 30fps, with everything to low except terrain, and out of all postprocessing options only lightshafts, bloom, and ssao are turned on. It never slows while I'm on foot, sometimes it can lag for a second if I ride through a village at full speed.
nVidia experience claims my card will melt and is requesting I turn everything off and lower the resolution to 1280x800, but I don't care.
You can see some screenshots in my steam profile. It's not as pretty as 1080p ultra, but it's fun to play and that's all that matters.
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The real problem is that players prefers to count polygons in the screen than playing an amazing game D: The "downgrade" is not a problem for me, i dont even care they lowed the graphics, i care more for the amazing gameplay and the amount of time i will spend playing it in my really nice toaster D:
Casual players are the real problem as always, they prefer graphics over gameplay D:
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It wasn't even polygon count so much as how those polygons are arranged and manipulated. W3 has the most polygons of any in the series by a significant margin. I haven't seen anyone, save you, mention it as a matter, not even those extremely dissatisfied with the downgrade. Where did you get that from?
The gameplay and story are already expected and shown to be fantastic. People aren't bringing that up (except as a red herring defense) because we all agree that those parts are great or at least okay. The graphics has been the main point of contention not because people value it the most, but because that is the most glaring flaw. It's absurd to assume criticizing a game on a certain detail or aspect means that detail or aspect is the most important to the critic; it just means the detail or aspect was noticed as flawed and worthy of criticism.
I have been actively discussing this matter and severely criticizing Witcher 3, and yet I can't even run the game; I prefer quality story and gameplay over graphics; and I am a core gamer who was once hardcore back when I had the time. I thoroughly enjoyed Witcher 1 despite it's terrible textures, dated graphics, glassy eyes, and laughably bad cutscene angles. Nevertheless, I'm criticizing the graphics. If you came across my posts and called me a casual gamer who only cared about graphics, I'd consider you disabled.
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But why graphics are so important for you? How can you call yourself a gamer if you rant about a "downgrade" in graphics? I would rage if the gameplay was downgraded, if some of the features they said were lies, if the story was bad, those are things to really protest, but graphics... come on, are you going to play the game or watch the game?
Im not disabled, Im simply a hardcore old school gamer, in my times we learned to apreciate a game for the quality of the content, not the graphics, some of the gamers in this age seems more like the disabled ones... D:
Also, casual gamers or "fashion" gamer are the players that i consider prefer more a game to look pretty than the content itself, so they are not really gamers, they only play for fashion or because the graphics looks "amazing" D:
Why dont enjoy the game instead to rant about the downgrade? For me it looks good, and i would not even mind if the game were pixelated, why? Because im here for the gameplay D:
Btw, im not looking for a fight with you, so if you could stop the insults i would be apreciated, calling someone disabled is offensive, even for the people that really are disabled, so learn some manners dood, dont be inmature D:
Also, the game is big! I love it D:
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Graphics are important because they contribute to the experience of the game. They accentuate the beauty, add to the overall quality, and emphasize the immersion one can feel when engrossed in the game. When it comes to video games (or any form of media, for that matter), I have no interest in choosing story over graphics or gameplay over story or anything of the sort. A good game is one which skillfully achieves quality in all aspects and which possesses few weaknesses that detract from its overall merit. Why should I have to choose one over the other and imply that I would sacrifice, for example, graphics for story? Why not have both? I'd ultimately choose story and gameplay over graphics, yes, but if I have to rationalize a game's quality through those means, then the game is obviously not very good.
I call myself a gamer because I play video games regularly and I enjoy video games both as sources of entertainment and works of art. Do you even understand what a "gamer" is? Or do you operate under some arbitrary, elitist definition of the term that excludes virtually everyone who isn't you or exactly like you? I'm upset about the graphical downgrade because it is a downgrade of the quality of the game as a whole. Contrary to what you may think, graphics are an essential component of a game and a well-designed game is one which possesses good graphics. ("Good graphics" are, in my opinion, graphics which complement the game, does not distract from the story or gameplay, can be considered beautiful or noteworthy on their own, properly represents the game, and adequately conveys the intended mood in each setting.) When the graphics are downgraded, the game suffers—the story is less vibrant and the gameplay is less lively. There is no mutual exclusivity here. You can have good graphics and good story and gameplay, you know. Why the hell am I required to choose one and sacrifice another? If I have to, then that's not a good game at all.
are you going to play the game or watch the game?
I'm literally using my eyes as the main sensory organ to experience the game. Graphics are kind of important, and even more important than the audio. I'm watching the cutscenes, admiring the environment and designs, and appreciating the visual work put into the game. I also play the game, but a game is an experience, not a job.
One aspect of experiencing the game is through visually perceiving it. Graphics is how this visual component manifests, so it's absurd not to care about it. Tell me, can a game be GOAT if it has zero animations, zero sprites or models, and zero designs? Do you think you'd enjoy a game that is literally nothing but text (a text adventure without images)? It doesn't matter how great the story is or the barely-qualifying "gameplay" it may possess; if it had any sort of graphics, whether it be in the form of a static image or even a visual representation in ASCII, it would help improve the game tremendously. Sorry, I'm playing a game, not reading a book.
Im simply a hardcore old school gamer, in my times we learned to apreciate a game for the quality of the content, not the graphics, some of the gamers in this age seems more like the disabled ones
Oh, so you're an elitist with nostalgia glasses who complains about the young folk because they prefer a game that is both beautiful and enjoyable? The graphics are a component which determines the quality of the content. Are you even aware of what "graphics" are? They are essential to the game and defines what constitutes a video game. Like those 8-bit or 16-bit graphics on the NES/SNES? Those are graphics. Like the still images in your text adventure? Those are graphics. Like the ASCII designs in your imageless text adventure game? Those are graphics, too. If you're seriously going to tell me this doesn't matter at all, then you better have some strong arguments to back it up. Otherwise, I wonder if you are incapable of appreciating a video game, and not only because you seem completely oblivious to what a video game is. It's called video games for a reason. I feel like I'm trying to explain basic video game theory a self-righteous pissant who's never actually played a game before.
Also, casual gamers or "fashion" gamer are the players that i consider prefer more a game to look pretty than the content itself, so they are not really gamers, they only play for fashion or because the graphics looks "amazing" D:
Again, your arbitrary definition of what constitutes a "casual" gamer stinks of sanctimonious elitism that isn't shared by anyone except fellow sanctimonious elitists. In case you weren't aware, a casual gamer is a demographic of gamers who casually play video games, hence the term. They do not play video games in any sort of dedicated way, they typically have little interest in video games as a hobby or sport, and they typically prefer games which do not require any great investment of time or effort (such as RPGs or strategy games). For them, games are more a means of socialization and bonding rather than sources of entertainment themselves. Ease of play and access are important, and their preferred game time is usually casual games. This is why many mobile games are considered casual games for casual gamers: they required little effort or skill to play, they can be played anywhere with an Internet connection (some don't even require that), and they are typically built with socialization features.
I get that you have some sort of disdain for casual gamers, but I don't believe it's justified. If you don't enjoy casual games, and you prefer hardcore games; or if you don't play like a casual gamer and have no interest in their interests; then good for you. You're not a casual gamer and you don't like casual games. Others are and others do, so your contempt for them is as pointless as a rock fan hating jazz fans, or someone who likes RPGs hating those who like platformers. If you don't like the genre or play style, then don't play it or play like that. You are a different demographic of player, so you have different interests and needs. Why does it matter what others prefer?
Why dont enjoy the game instead to rant about the downgrade? For me it looks good, and i would not even mind if the game were pixelated, why? Because im here for the gameplay D:
Firstly, I neither own the game nor can I run it on my computer. I can't even run the second game, even though I own it. When I can play it, though, I will and I'll almost certainly enjoy it despite the graphical downgrade. If you wouldn't mind if it were pixelated, then that's your own preference. I consider your lack of interest for graphics whatsoever to be rather philistinic, though, as if you have to sacrifice it in order to get good story and gameplay. (You don't.) I'd prefer W3 to be as graphically excellent as its story and gameplay. Graphics may not be as important, but shunning them entirely and acquiescing to downgraded graphics is rather pathetic.
Btw, im not looking for a fight with you, so if you could stop the insults i would be apreciated, calling someone disabled is offensive, even for the people that really are disabled, so learn some manners dood, dont be inmature D:
Oh, so your passive-aggressive jabs and pompous attitude is just your normal demeanor? I technically didn't call you disabled; I only stated that if you called me a casual gamer who only cared about graphics, I'd consider you disabled. This is because it would take quite a feat to be so completely ignorant and presumptive and still be a reasonable, sophisticated individual.
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And you keep going... i dont consider myself an elitist and neither i wear nostalgia glasses. I enjoy modern games the same as old games. I only say that graphics are overrated, they of course as you say contributes to the overall experience, but they are not the TOP important thing in a game, the graphics only helps to portray/express what is happening in the game D:
You really need to calm down and maybe drink a glass of water and breath more D: As i say, im not picking a fight, im not trying to look elitist, phillistinic, pompous or any other tag you want to put me D: Im only saying my opinion D:
If i wanted i could do the same thing you did... quoting everything you said and make a nice counter... but i really dont care... you like
"amazing" graphics, and for me amazing graphics are any form the developers choose as they visual medium D:
Btw, i dont have a disdain for casual gamers, and my definition of casual gamers is very diferent from yours.
I like casual games, i enjoy a lot the puzzle games and the idle games, they are a nice time killers while i work, but i dont consider a casual gamer someone who play only casual games, they are also gamers because they enjoy theirs games and become hardcore because... well, there are puzzle games that are pretty hard, but for those ppl are just a walk in the park D:
Also, i will not reply again to any other thing you say. I dont consider myself passive-agresive, but i never liked to fight ppl in a forum, normally ppl become mad and they feel bad and have a bad day because trivial fights in forums, i dont like to give a bad day to another person D:
You are welcome anytime to "discuss", but not this D:
Have a nice friday D:
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I never once said they are the "TOP important thing in a game". I didn't say that anywhere in this thread, and I've never genuinely believed or said that in my life. I don't know where you're getting this assumption from, but I suspect it's either due to poor reading comprehension or the fact that you listen to the little caricature of who you think I am in your head rather than what I actually said. Maybe if you didn't filter my statements through the presumption that I'm some normie casual who only cares about graphics, you wouldn't have made such a fool of yourself.
You're saying your opinion and I'm challenging it as weak and baseless. Are you not able to handle criticisms? For example, your statement that "for me amazing graphics are any form the developers choose as they visual medium" is absurd. That's called graphics. What, do you believe all graphics are equal and equally appealing? The entire concept of qualifying "graphics" with something like "good" or "bad", or "excellent" or "terrible", is to compare the graphical quality or two or more items and determine which one better fits the criteria for what qualifies as quality graphics. You act as if there is no distinguishing between graphics. That sounds great and I almost envy you, but I also wonder if your opinion is based on a lack of deliberation.
Your statements about casual gamers directly contradicts your previous statements and that sounds like backpedaling to me. If you can't even defend your opinion when challenged, then you don't really have an opinion at all—just illusory, half-baked notions you adopt and discard whenever it best suits you. Being an ideological snake and fraud isn't a good position to take, especially when you have no fangs to defend yourself when they're questioned.
Do you know what "passive-aggressive" is? Because you kind of were. You avoided my criticisms and argument in favor of pouting about how I approached it. Seeing as you justify evading criticism with sanctimonious concerns of upsetting your interlocutor, however, I'm not surprised that you're unwilling to admit your mistakes. If "discussion" means agreeing with each other and feeding off each other's identical opinions, then that isn't a "discussion" I want to have. That's called circlejerking.
When you actually wish to apply yourself, feel free to respond. Until then, I recommend reviewing your previous statements and consider how douchey you were. (Yes, I know I was aggressive and crass, as well, but courtesy toward condescension isn't my strong suit.) It's kind of disrespectful to presume the opinions of someone and immediately proceed to disparage them based off your own prejudices and preconceptions. In the future, you may do well to respond to the actual argument rather than the peripherals. That way, people will actually take you seriously.
I don't believe your well wishes for a moment, sorry.
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Yeah, it is not as much about game being ugly but about this (quotes from article from the OP)
CD Projekt Red released a handful of new Witcher 3 screens last week, which you can see for yourself in this post. Not everyone was entirely thrilled with them, however. Some fans said in a NeoGAF thread that they really don't look as good as we've come to expect
And devs said:
The most important thing here is that the game will come out looking gorgeous when we are done working on it. There will be no downgrade.
And the situation wasn't really clear until pretty much the PC version came out. For the most part they denied that the graphics will be worse (even if they knew it isn't the case). That is what is getting people so riled up - that they were not exactly straight with us.
Although to be fair, they have hinted that not everything will be perfect, an yet they did not address the issue well enough, and people feel somewhat disappointed.
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Well, now that the game is out, there's always the possibility of them upgrading the PC version. It certainly wouldn't be without precedent. I wonder how much they were impacted making it for PS4/Juan at the same time, especially considering this generation of consoles is still quite new. With The Witcher 2, they released the 360 version after the PC version, and the 360 had already been out for 6 years.
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They probably will, there was talk of uber mode for graphics being released in the future. What is more, there are all ready some tweaks in the .ini file possible to make the game look better.
As for the development, they actually had to sacrifice some things as they only had time to do one build for all three platforms - this is why the game looks worse then in some of the trailers.
Again, this argument is not about the game looking bad, it's about CDPR being pretty evasive about the state of their project.
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Yes, and yes.
But people are alluding to the fact that the developer wasn't honest about it either. Which is why I can understand why people are irritated, but I don't get the outrage (unless people are packing some big time rigs in anticipation of this game (alone)).
Honestly, unless the game looks like utter sheeit with a 290x, I don't care because I knew damn well when I saw the trailer that only some really high end rig could pull that off with good FPS.
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I guess it's mostly about principle. There was pretty much no PC footage until right before launch - only PS4 and some Xbox. Some comparison videos where taken down since they supposedly were not representing the final game, and to make matters worse the devs said that the game on ultra settings will look really good. It's almost as if they wanted people to be disappointed.
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Zero trust for them anymore. Not really because of the downgrade, but because of crippling their game on high-end machines that don't run GTX 9xx GPUs. A GTX 780, the previous high-end card, still costs $500, runs at the same speed as a GTX 960... Do they even know how much faster a 780 is compared to a 960?
Despicable. No respect for consumers at all. It seems they got in bed with nvidia for pushing their 900-series GeForce cards through making the game perform horribly on everything else.
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Yeah, something to do with "nvidia gameworks". But still, why use it then? It screws over people owning AMD and NVidia non-Maxwell GPUs. Which in the end is like 80% of their customers.
If NVidia wants to force people into buying Maxwell cards by crippling everything else, you don't have to participate in that.
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they will probably release a "redux" version of witcher 3, like 4a did with metro series.
anyway, i'm playing the game with everything set to high (insane stuff like that nvidia hair thing off) and in 1366x768px with a 560ti. didn't really expect the game to run so smooth (average 40fps). :3
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Why should people have to pay for a redux when it was their mistake to downgrade?
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That's not really enough to make up for the downgrade. It's still not what it could have been.
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Maybe not, but the Metro 2033 Redux was charged separately as its entirely own game. It was kind of implied.
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The main problem isn't the downgrade, the problem is that they Straightly lied to their customers. This is disappointing.
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I'm not sure anything will ever stop people from pre-ordering games. Every conceivable problem in the book has been happening to major publishers and people keep pre-ordering. Until the pre-order leaps out of the unit and kills someone's whole family, I think nothing can stop it.
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I didn't trust them a whole lot to begin with, honestly. It's rather easy to see that they try TOO hard to be the guys that cater to what consumers want. That being said I still love the Witcher games, and I'm excited for their next game (the cyberpunk one, can't remember the name).
Kinda sad that half the people in this thread are defending them saying "You shouldn't expect the trailers to be true! They said it was in-game footage but that doesn't mean it actually is!". Everyone just accepts that what everything is advertised as isn't true at all. Isn't that what everyone bashes EA and Ubi for? Lying to consumers, shady business practices?
Maybe people shouldn't hoist CDPR above everyone else and say "See, they're the good guys, they care about us!" because at the end of the day, CDPR looks out for CDPR. They're a business; they're here to make money, and if lying about it sells more copies, why not?
How sad the videogame industry has become.
(I should really work on my writing skills, that was kinda all over the place, wasn't it?)
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who cares about downgrade, still looks good and has a really good optimization
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKgePlu6z9E
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Good optimization, what a bunch of fucking crap. Do you do it for free or are hot pockets involved?
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if you even played the game then you should know what im talking about... or simply dont play it on a wooden pc
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and if you played the game you'd know how nivdia "gameworks" is fucking over amd cards in terms of performance. but then again why would I except any rational thinking from a person with buyers remorse.
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OMG ur fool, just watch that freakin video and shut up ignorant kid
nvidia is fagg0t as always
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Give DCPR a breack. They made an awesome game (rated 10/10 sometimes) and all people see is the downgrade. The game looks horrendously gorgeous anyways and I'm so sorry for the 0.5% of PC users who could have played on max settings. Don't think its easy making a multi format game. Multiple settings means exponential coding and testing, so why not choose a very descent middle. And investors want immediate return so the devs can't be held responsible for everything. The dev even seem sorry about it. I believe CDPR will come around and make patches which will include all the upgrades and much more in time. They've always been awesome and passionate about their games so I have no doubt about that.
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0.5% is probably a generous amount. The number of people with top-of-the-line rigs who want this game and are denied this represent a tiny portion of the customer base. The amount of happy console users represents a inconceivably larger and more important chunk of customers.
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Quite frankly people shouldn't have put cdpr on sucha pedestal as if they were the last shining beacon of hope, the pure and always honest heroes in the business.
Let's face it. All companies in the game business at the end of the day need to get paid. And they will cut corners and do what is necessary for their margins.
The sooner you realize that, the sooner you stop getting dissappointed. Then just be careful and don't buy untill you have factual proof a game is decent enough to warrant a purchase.
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Why downgrade the graphics across the board? They could have given PC users multiple texture options. Choice is the enemy of the enemy.
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sigh. I thought CD Projekt Red was the last trustworthy, honest, "good guys" dev team, I guess that's not so true.
I'd say they're still decent, but no where near as awesome as they were before. (Not after this, and not after including a season pass for TW3.)
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What companies do is advertising what is not the game so people buy what they aren't expecting to buy. That would be like advertising concept car on TV and promising that's what people will have if they pay. Of course they will receive a crap that is not half as stylish as the cars advertised. They take the money for the deal but don't respect it that's plain scamming.
Also there was no need from them to confirm the downgrade to.. confirm it. It was just so obvious lol
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The game looks really good, but the problem is that they lied about it, I don't care that much because I wouldn't be able to run it in ultra anyway, but for people that could, well, too bad for them, I would be sad as well.
So far I'm really liking the game, and I would pre-order it day one again even with this downgrade. Maybe they will do something about the PC version after some time, dunno.
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Last year CDPR promised there would be no downgrade. and as the game started to come out, people started worrying, when seeing leaked copies and such. People (including CDPR?) said comparing youtube videos/streams isn't a far way to compare them.
But now they've finally confirmed that there was a downgrade in this interview here It's a really interesting read, even if you aren't interested in CDPR and their games.
Some of their answers are just plain... weird.
Q: Why didn't you say anything until now?
A: "Frankly speaking because we didn't see it as a problem,"
But a few sentences later "We don't feel good about it," Iwinski adds, "and I treat it very personally." Maybe it was just a weird translation? I don't know.
I don't think the downgrade is the problem for people., I think it's more of the fact that they wouldn't admit it, even worse that they wouldn't until the game was already out.
What do you guys think? This just a mountain being made over a mole hill, or is it something that should feel bad about?
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