I haven't really been using that, but I'll miss that.
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Not really a problem, getting special rules, even the more basic ones, approved and enforced was always a bit of a bother anyways.
Only issue here is that you are asking us to depend on the blacklist which is very limited in terms of what a simple "Must comment" rule would have accomplished. I can't make even pseudo public giveaways and expect to be able to blacklist everyone that can't read. I'll run out of slots.
If this was accompanied by a major increase in the number of blacklist slots then I could see this move as being fair but as it stands it's just another move making it less attractive to share your giveaways with anyone but people you're already friendly with and I don't think that's the right direction for SG.
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This change would cause problems for some groups, where the group rules need to be verified. For example, a group giving away to those who haven't yet won, where the entrant happened to win before (after joining the group).
(It's not a huge deal though.)
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If you guys vote me for President I might bring special rules back, but probably won't.
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You should stop changing your avatar all the time then.
I can't identify myself with you as a candidate this way. :P
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I'll stay with this one for a while, don't worry :p
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You're not supposed to identify yourself with candidates anyway... they change their skin more often than a snake!
See, that's funny because you... nope, not gonna make a Harvey Spector joke. :P
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So I can't force people to pick one giveaway of a series of giveaways anymore.
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You can.
'yo sucka's choose one game of this list and i will do a GA for it'
Most voted game = GA for it.
/thread
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i think he meant event like "hey suckas, here ya hab 5 excellent gibs for 5 excellent gemz. but here's plottwist - ya allowed to only enter one of'em, so ya be sure to choose one ya like da best".
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sure, why not? as long as he got special rule "you may only enter ONE of following GAs" approved ;p
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I can see now, even better, why this was dismantled. That would mean so much work for support team.
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yeah - but then why accept rules that are bound to create "so much work" in the first place? These could get "no approval" and the more serious ones - like comment (proving entrant read description) or activating all previous wins (weeding out regifters) could stay.
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But activating all previous wins is a normal rule, not special one o:
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only if cheater wasn't caught before or didn't activate / regifted in less than a monrth since winning your GA. To be able to reroll any regifter you needed special rule, and you cannot use it anymore.
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No, you don't get the same result. In that way I'd have a giveaway with a lot of indiscriminate entries, included people with a small interest for that game. And it excludes the possibility of creating other giveaways. See also here, one of the two times I did this.
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I suppose now, you'd have to do it via a group giveaway, and do the giveaways sequentially. And if someone entered a second giveaway, you boot them before you do the next one. Its much less elegant than the other way, but it would have the same eventual result.
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even better solution using groups - make X groups for X GAs saying each user mayenter only one group. Or invite users to group they declare in comments. Someone enter multiple groups - kick him from all. this way you have all bonuses from Sisyphus solution plus you can still run all GAs simultaneously.
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Doesn't affect me as I never make special rules. But I bet it will suck for some people.
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What c00lizz said for the most part, and this won't change a thing for me. I always found special rules in giveaways a bit strange (at least the serious ones where people go full Nazi on win/entry ration and whatnot). But aside from that, in 4 days it will be 4 years since I'm here and I have yet to see a good reason for blacklisting anyone. Most people seem to forget why this site was established in the first place.
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I don't do lists. but regifter should be reported. and since it takes a while, they should be BL.
nice nickname btw. my cat only sleeps
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A good principle, along with "Never go Full Monty"
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Most people don't know why this site was established in the first place, many only see their own purposes in it.
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in that case you have to make the blacklists bigger as more and more people join this community and very few people ever read descriptions
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It wouldn't be very fair to ban forever someone because once he/she missed a giveaway description.
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i dont really care either way, i have ignored every GA i found that had special rules.
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"Comment or I will add you to my blacklist"
??? What?
So now givers have unlimited control on who wins? They can (post entry) just blacklist anyone for any reason? I can create a giveaway and only allow people who sent me 1 cent of Steam Wallet cash to have a chance of winning?
That seems to completely go against many of the rules, which were put in place to restrict what the gifter is allowed to demand from the enterers. There was a reason we used to force people to go through the process of getting rules OKed, because they cannot be trusted with the unlimited power to demand anything they want.
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If you blacklist someone after they enter a giveaway, their entry is still valid (and you can't get a rerolled based on that)
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So the mod/OP is wrong?
I don't see how I could have misinterpreted that statement.
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mod is right and TJ is right as well.
Previously discouraging thing was "Follow my rules or else I will reroll and you won't win this GA" now it's supposed to be "follow the rules or else I will blacklist you. You will still win this GA and I will still be forced to gift the game to you, even if you didn't follow the rules, but you will be blacklisted and won't be able to win anything from me in the future."
That's why OP said it's not a direct substitute.
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"Comment or I will add you to my blacklist"
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Say your prayers, take your vitamins and stay in school brother!
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That's good news, imho, it means more time for processing real tickets ;)
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While I don't think I've ever had a special rule or see myself ever having one, I think it seems a bit unfair to restrict a user from having additional rules if he/she desired them. It is, after all, their game that they are giving away so shouldn't they be allowed to have the freedom to request additional rules if they deem it necessary? If you wouldn't mind me asking, what's the reasoning behind the rule change?
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I wasn't support yet when special rules were being approved, so I'll just quote Lina here:
The problem is not if we have enough restrictions or not, but that the rules users ask are not always black and white, plus they sometimes word them oddly, too.
Special rules were fine when they were first implemented (3 years ago) but we have tons more users now. It's not that easy anymore and I'd prefer not having them than keep arguing with users about approving them or about rerolling giveaways for loosely stated rules.
I'd say removing them also helps save time for other tickets
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To my mind is sick blacklisting people because "she/he commented and I don't want notifications" or "she/he didn't comment". Personally I don't care about spam, but some people do... that's why I think blacklisting is not good idea. Of someone want to create GA she/he can point level and group or whitelist etc.
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this is coming from google:
But it is not fair. some one creat a giveawys(<50pelple jioning) send the gift to their ture friends（in reality）。They can benefit from it,they can level up. For these people，why i cant change the winer?
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We've been a little inconsistent with special rules since SGv2 was launched. While we have not been allowing new special rules for the past couple of months, some support members have accepted rerolls for older special rules created in v1. After some deliberation, we've decided to disallow all special rules in the future to be more consistent. While not a direct substitute, the blacklist feature can be used as a pseudo-barrier as well: "Comment or I will add you to my blacklist" e.g.
Some people seem to be a bit confused about my last statement. You can blacklist someone but if he/she has already entered the giveaway, this action will not invalidate the entry. It will only prevent this person from seeing and entering your giveaways in the future.
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