So an user wrote a complaint on the battle.net forums regarding this particular Victory Pose, shown by the Blizzard Overwatch character Tracer (attached image at the bottom, might be considered NSFW for some (?), I dunno better safe than sorry)

From what I infer from his post he is uncomfortable with the idea of sexualizing a character whose lore does not present her as a particularly sexy (?) (can't find the right word here, pardon me) but has other defining qualities, as opposed to other Heroes (?) whose sexuality is a more prominent part of their kit, such as the sniper Widowmaker or the K-Pop singer, D-Va

What's your opinion in the matter? Do you think that the distint characteristics of Tracer do not mix with her being overtly sexual? What's your opinion in general on sexualization of both female and male characters in video games? Is it an issue? If so, why?

Feel free to elaborate on the matter, and I would like to beg y'all to keep the discussion civil.

I found the topic on the following pcgamer article

If you were looking for a giveaway prepare to be disappointed, not gonna bribe you guys so that you express yourselves, I'd rather we all discussed for the sake of it. <3

NSFW-ish?

EDIT: Be sure to check out Sooth 's comment for some more context

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She is just standing. SHE. IS. JUST. STANDING! How is the too sexual?

8 years ago
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She is standing there NSFW! :) But seriously, I would like to have a girl (real girls plz), tell me, what is wrong with the pose (other than that it can be replaced with a better pose for this character)

8 years ago
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Oh noes , someone is being offended by something on the internet .
Quick call the Drama police .

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Not to mention we have This thing ... and no one gives a fuck about it .

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It is an important part of human advancement, since that game series does serious research into physics simulation.

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I mean , i was heavily interested in the physics of some parts of the game ...

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People did give a fuck.
With the outcome that the plans for an international release outside of Japan were cancelled outright, due to cultural differences.

(although apparently it's released region-free with English audio included, so if you really want it, imported copies should work)

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I laughed so hard though. We don't release internationally, just a region-free version with English audio HINT FUCKING HINT.
Sometimes these SJWs on the West are so idiotic…

8 years ago
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Im going to write a complaint to blizzard that Jum Raynor is way to handsome , and is also smoking and drinking alcohol .

Thats giving unrealistic ideal to the young generations , also tolerates smoking and alcohol abuse .

Also Racism towards different races .
It also can lead to terrorism , mass murder and all sorts of other crime .

That needs to be censored NOW !

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They actually removed Tychus' cigar on Heroes of the Storm because it could hurt sensibilities, or promote smoking or something like that.

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I dont even understand , thats obvious troll post , and ppl take it serious .

Every time i see someone start bringing some Relative , kid ... friend w/e being offended by something its just a troll alert for me .

Guy has a young daughter ? Dont make your young daughter watch a trailer for a game where ppl murder each other >.>
Yeah thats also an argument that can be made here ...

Not to mention go Rule34 Tracer .... yeah ... be prepared .

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idc as long as they dont ruin my game with Ect char wants to have sex with ect char, or ect is in love with ect and that sort of BS...

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Onwards to rule34 Tracer ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I was thinking of buying the game just because of her. You know... for academic purposes.

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yeah this is pretty lame just an ass..a twerk would be much better for a winning pose.

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I just lost all my respect for Blizzard.

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I hate for that reason all the opinions that are only sustained in the fact that you are a father or a mother. Con-fucking-gratis, but that doesn't mean your opinion is worth more, or has any more sense that anyone's else.

I mean, if I had kids and I didn't want them to see certain content for whatever reason, I'll just make sure they don't.

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You completely missed the point. This Jessica person and Tracer are two different characters so saying she did a backshot proves nothing. Just because they're both British and run doesn't make them even close to being the same person.

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It honestly seems like people have run out of valid things to be offended by.

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I find it funny how they claim the pose does not fit her personality. I guess standing makes you out of character.

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I'm pretty much amazed that people actually care.

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That pic doesn't seem oversexualized (it's just an average shot from behind, she is not doing anything sexually charged). Also, the user seems to imply that a woman who is capable of accomplishing some task (especially something that is perceived as "male stuff") shouldn't ever be sexy.

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Indeed?

That's exactly what I said in other answer, what's the problem, she can only be sexy if sexy is the only defining factor of the character as a whole? Otherwise, you can't? It's ridiculous, isn't it?

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Without reading and after taking a first glance of the image I thought that's a guy. After reading, I don't care and this world is going to hell and I don't care.

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I agree with the removal, but not because of the "oversexualisation", which I don't really see in this case. This pose just looks too generic/unmemorable imho and the devs stated that they already had better pose in works, which probably will fit in better. It's their artistic right to change something they weren't happy with.

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im sure you cand fin many valid arguments about how bad is sexualizing characters not only on video games, but at the same time im sure you can make some valid arguments about empowering and embracing one self and what not about those characters.... so in the end its all the same to me, if you want to empowers yourself and you found that you like doing so in what people might consider "sexy" things, go ahead whatever makers you happy.

As these are fictional characters they are up to the creators to do with them what they consider consistent, reasonable, responsible and whatever.... so yeah, neither argument is right or wrong.

As a very very personal note i do find over sexualizing characters annoying, but mostly on anime, felt that most videogames characters are quite consistent.

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I am okay with some dude being ofended with this but what is wrong to me is blizzard taking this shit, if they did this design in the first place there are 2 posibilities, they intended it to be sexy so thats it, they didnt intended to be sexy and so it isnt and so it doesn need a change, i am so fricking tired of people gettin ofended for anything and companies giving them the reason... its dumb and censoring, if a developer wants the pose to be like that let them, dont use the hero, don look at it and thats it...

now i like sexy character but no overexagerated ones, thats why i tend to get away from ecchi animes :P and this is perfectly fine and sexy, but not nearly enought for someone to get ofended

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He must be get caught by his mom fapping to Tracer's victory pose.

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if a view from behind is considered sexual then pretty much every third person game with the possibility of a female protagonist is screwed on that one. I've never really found the arse to be an attractive part of the body though so maybe I'm not the best judge on the matter
personally I'm against most censorship, there are some times when it's appropriate but 99% of the time it's completely unnecessary (content warnings and optional censorship are another matter entirely, but actual removal of content just because it might offend a few people seems excessive)

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It's so wrong on so many levels and I'm just so fed up with this kind of bullshit that I'm not even gonna start raging about it, here's a quote instead.

It's like demanding that grown men live on skim milk because the baby can't eat steak.

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well if a woman's victory pose doesn't involve her holding aloft the head of her fallen enemy, then it's no victory pose at all and should be adjusted accordingly, imo

that aside, the whole thing has been turned ridiculous and manages to be hypocritical towards itself simply by invoking the "too sexualised" argument for absolutely no reason. if these people thought a male character had a victory pose that didn't fit his assigned personality, they'd probably manage to voice their complaint without making it all about the corrupting evil of his manly backside.

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Dat ass ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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I opened the image and then went back to reading because I wanted to find out where the "sexual" pose image was. That's how sexual it looked to me :/

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does not really look sexualized in my eyes,the persons who are against that are frustr. in their sex life or just dont get to.

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